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I want to improve the infermation 122.163.59.85 ( talk) 11:22, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I have added Cousteau's The Silent World to the list of further reading, but ... the list is still very biased towards BSAC publications. I'm not a SCUBA diver, but there must be experts here who could judge which other books should appear on the 'essential reading list'. I left the e-book on the list, but is it (in effect) an advertisement? (I'm not an expert in the field, so can't judge.)
I also took the liberty of removing the call for inline references (dated 2008) as there are now 25, which seems reasonable.
Finally, I think the talk page needs tidying up and then archiving – lots of the discussions are years old, and it takes ages to find the active topics. -- Wally Tharg ( talk) 15:14, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
The article title is Scuba diving, so I am going to try to get it back on topic a bit, and move the off topic material to more appropriate articles. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 20:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
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Remove and correct below:
Add corrected text as shown: SCUBA = Self-Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus. Which describes breathing sets "underwater" for scuba diving, the Header of this page.
-- Fpique ( talk) 20:00, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Not done This header:
at the top of the page is for visitors who accidentally come to this article in search of the Self-contained breathing apparatus can find their way to the correct article. This header is not used to describe the article it is placed on. Camyoung54 talk 20:28, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Done The hatnote would be appropriate for
Scuba set or just
Scuba, but Scuba diving should not be confused with SCBA, and is not a search string reasonably likely to be used by someone looking for Self contained breathing apparatus • • •
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122.177.233.57 posted this comment on 18 June 2013 ( view all feedback).
this page should also tell about some famous achievers of scuba diving
Any thoughts?
This article is also a redirect from "Scuba divers", so the reader had reasonable expectations of finding that sort of information. The navbox "Scuba divers" would have given the desired links if the reader had known to use it, but it may be that that is not sufficiently obvious to the average reader. I will make
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Changed Scuba divers and Scuba diver to redirect to List of underwater divers • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:46, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
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A video of scuba diving (wearing of gear, diving etc.) may be added please
This would be useful. If anyone knows of a suitable video, please upload to commons and add link.
• • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:55, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
This paragraph mentions a 1970 and a 2000 study that shows that divers risk factor is 36 - 96 times more the drivers. What about the DAN 2010 Fatality workshop proceedings? Which show a much lower risk factor . . . 163/1,000,000 for diving and 154/1,000,000 for driving.
I don't know about the risks percentages of technical diving but I feel that this opening paragraph grossly over states the risks of recreational scuba and must be changes.
Any opinions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by One 4 All ( talk • contribs) 23:26, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
The article was very informative, giving many examples of scuba diving, and also giving the basic beginning history of it as well. Packed with tons of information, which is all relevant to the article topic’ Scuba Diving. The article does not contain any bias, or side in the content. There is definitely a neutral standpoint in this article. As I was reading the article there were a few places in which citations where not there and were needed. There was over 59 references cited in this article, some in which I clicked on; most of which were from books. The information given seems to be up to date as scuba diving can be. Even the large amount of pictures that were shown throughout the article seem well within the past decade or newer, which help to fully understand the equipment they describe used for diving. I clicked on quite a few links, which brought me to similar information related to scuba diving. The links are great because if you still don’t fully understand what they mean in the article, by specifically clicking on the links you can get a better understanding of the article and the vocabulary to go along with the topic you are reading and learning about. The table of contents is great, breaks down sections and different areas of diving you would want to learn more about. There was a large list of related topics right before the references, all in which were talked about in the article. It’s great as a scuba diver myself, I understood the producers and equipment discussed in the article, but I think that it was easy enough to understand for anyone to read and contained no bias. Over all this was a great article for getting a better understanding of scuba diving; from the very basics, to all kinds of diving that can be done, to the dangerous hazards of diving as well. ScubaSarah8 Scubasarah8 ( talk) 23:21, 7 September 2016 (UTC) Scubasarah8 ( talk) 23:19, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
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I'll copyedit as I go; please revert as needed if I make a mess of anything.
Inspired by the simple apparatus of Maurice Fernez: we haven't mentioned Fernez to this point, so I don't know what this refers to. I see Fernez's equipment is described later in this section, but it would be much easier on the reader to describe that before we talk about Le Prieur's modifications to it.
the lack of a demand regulator and the consequent low endurance: I imagine I'll understand this once I've read the rest of the article, but at this point I don't understand demand regulation well enough to see why low endurance would be the result of not having it. Can we get a very short inline explanation?
a solution of caustic potash; the system giving a duration of about three hours: not sure a semicolon is better than a comma there. And perhaps "diving duration", to make it quite clear what we're talking about?
included an emergency buoyancy bag on the front of to help keep: something amiss here.
The DSEA was adopted by the Royal Navy after further development by Davis in 1927: adopted in 1927 or developed further in 1927? If the latter, I'd reverse the order so we have it chronologically; if it's the former it needs to be rephrased for clarity.
The high percentage of oxygen used by these early rebreather systems limited the depth at which they could be used.Why does that follow?
when Siebe Gorman was directed by Robert Henry Davis: why is this worth mentioning?
When a demonstration resulted in a diver passing out: I think this means a demonstration of the Porpoise, but I'd make it clearer -- I initially thought it might be a reference to the CG system and hence a comparison to the Porpoise.
which separates the first and second stages by a low-pressure hoseas with the comment about the demand regulator, the reader doesn't yet understand what stages are, so a brief parenthetical explanation would be helpful.
The defining equipment used by a scuba diver is the eponymous scuba, the self-contained underwater breathing apparatus which allows the diver to breathe while diving, and is transported by the diver: I know this is just an introductory sentence, but I think it could be cut. Readers will know this is what we're talking about by this point in the article; it doesn't give the reader any new information.
Since I've suggested a couple of things that could lead to reorganizing the article to some extent, I'm going to pause the review here and wait for your comments before continuing. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 23:20, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Just catching up with some strikes; the unstruck ones are ones I think you're still working on, so let me know if that's not that case. When you're ready let me know and I'll do another read through. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 22:55, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Peter, I was about to start another read through and this time found myself stopping at the first sentence of the history section: The history of scuba diving is closely linked with the history of scuba equipment
. What's the boundary between the two articles? I can see it's hard to talk about the history of diving without covering the equipment history, but how are the article intended to be different? Should the two in fact be the same article,
History of scuba diving, with {{
main}} links from both
scuba set and
scuba diving, and summary sections left in those places with a different focus in each?
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Starting another set of comments.
Cylindrically curved faceplates such as those used for firefighting full-face masks: needs some tweaking; not a grammatical structure.
That's everything I can see. The article is now in excellent shape. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 17:31, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to point out that there is only one female pictured on this page (and in a bikini only learning to dive at that). There is no mention of the gender preconceptions, the historical male dominance in the field, or the now diminishing gender gap in the sport. (unsigned comment by IP 76.11.147.214 moved to bottom of page)
I don't understand why the article on scuba diving is written in British English. There is no such thing as a famous scuba diver and Britain is not famous for recreational diving destinations. The world's most famous dive destinations are located in the Caribbean, not cold water climates such as England. Also, Britain has a smaller number of recreational divers in comparison with other countries such as the United States. I am absolutely certain that this article is perused by a relatively small number of Brits in comparison with people from other countries. Anthony22 ( talk) 11:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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I want to improve the infermation 122.163.59.85 ( talk) 11:22, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I have added Cousteau's The Silent World to the list of further reading, but ... the list is still very biased towards BSAC publications. I'm not a SCUBA diver, but there must be experts here who could judge which other books should appear on the 'essential reading list'. I left the e-book on the list, but is it (in effect) an advertisement? (I'm not an expert in the field, so can't judge.)
I also took the liberty of removing the call for inline references (dated 2008) as there are now 25, which seems reasonable.
Finally, I think the talk page needs tidying up and then archiving – lots of the discussions are years old, and it takes ages to find the active topics. -- Wally Tharg ( talk) 15:14, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
The article title is Scuba diving, so I am going to try to get it back on topic a bit, and move the off topic material to more appropriate articles. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 20:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
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Remove and correct below:
Add corrected text as shown: SCUBA = Self-Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus. Which describes breathing sets "underwater" for scuba diving, the Header of this page.
-- Fpique ( talk) 20:00, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Not done This header:
at the top of the page is for visitors who accidentally come to this article in search of the Self-contained breathing apparatus can find their way to the correct article. This header is not used to describe the article it is placed on. Camyoung54 talk 20:28, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Done The hatnote would be appropriate for
Scuba set or just
Scuba, but Scuba diving should not be confused with SCBA, and is not a search string reasonably likely to be used by someone looking for Self contained breathing apparatus • • •
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122.177.233.57 posted this comment on 18 June 2013 ( view all feedback).
this page should also tell about some famous achievers of scuba diving
Any thoughts?
This article is also a redirect from "Scuba divers", so the reader had reasonable expectations of finding that sort of information. The navbox "Scuba divers" would have given the desired links if the reader had known to use it, but it may be that that is not sufficiently obvious to the average reader. I will make
Scuba divers a disambiguation page with links to the most obvious options. • • •
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Changed Scuba divers and Scuba diver to redirect to List of underwater divers • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:46, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
101.50.85.89 posted this comment on 29 October 2013 ( view all feedback).
A video of scuba diving (wearing of gear, diving etc.) may be added please
This would be useful. If anyone knows of a suitable video, please upload to commons and add link.
• • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:55, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
This paragraph mentions a 1970 and a 2000 study that shows that divers risk factor is 36 - 96 times more the drivers. What about the DAN 2010 Fatality workshop proceedings? Which show a much lower risk factor . . . 163/1,000,000 for diving and 154/1,000,000 for driving.
I don't know about the risks percentages of technical diving but I feel that this opening paragraph grossly over states the risks of recreational scuba and must be changes.
Any opinions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by One 4 All ( talk • contribs) 23:26, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
The article was very informative, giving many examples of scuba diving, and also giving the basic beginning history of it as well. Packed with tons of information, which is all relevant to the article topic’ Scuba Diving. The article does not contain any bias, or side in the content. There is definitely a neutral standpoint in this article. As I was reading the article there were a few places in which citations where not there and were needed. There was over 59 references cited in this article, some in which I clicked on; most of which were from books. The information given seems to be up to date as scuba diving can be. Even the large amount of pictures that were shown throughout the article seem well within the past decade or newer, which help to fully understand the equipment they describe used for diving. I clicked on quite a few links, which brought me to similar information related to scuba diving. The links are great because if you still don’t fully understand what they mean in the article, by specifically clicking on the links you can get a better understanding of the article and the vocabulary to go along with the topic you are reading and learning about. The table of contents is great, breaks down sections and different areas of diving you would want to learn more about. There was a large list of related topics right before the references, all in which were talked about in the article. It’s great as a scuba diver myself, I understood the producers and equipment discussed in the article, but I think that it was easy enough to understand for anyone to read and contained no bias. Over all this was a great article for getting a better understanding of scuba diving; from the very basics, to all kinds of diving that can be done, to the dangerous hazards of diving as well. ScubaSarah8 Scubasarah8 ( talk) 23:21, 7 September 2016 (UTC) Scubasarah8 ( talk) 23:19, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
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Inspired by the simple apparatus of Maurice Fernez: we haven't mentioned Fernez to this point, so I don't know what this refers to. I see Fernez's equipment is described later in this section, but it would be much easier on the reader to describe that before we talk about Le Prieur's modifications to it.
the lack of a demand regulator and the consequent low endurance: I imagine I'll understand this once I've read the rest of the article, but at this point I don't understand demand regulation well enough to see why low endurance would be the result of not having it. Can we get a very short inline explanation?
a solution of caustic potash; the system giving a duration of about three hours: not sure a semicolon is better than a comma there. And perhaps "diving duration", to make it quite clear what we're talking about?
included an emergency buoyancy bag on the front of to help keep: something amiss here.
The DSEA was adopted by the Royal Navy after further development by Davis in 1927: adopted in 1927 or developed further in 1927? If the latter, I'd reverse the order so we have it chronologically; if it's the former it needs to be rephrased for clarity.
The high percentage of oxygen used by these early rebreather systems limited the depth at which they could be used.Why does that follow?
when Siebe Gorman was directed by Robert Henry Davis: why is this worth mentioning?
When a demonstration resulted in a diver passing out: I think this means a demonstration of the Porpoise, but I'd make it clearer -- I initially thought it might be a reference to the CG system and hence a comparison to the Porpoise.
which separates the first and second stages by a low-pressure hoseas with the comment about the demand regulator, the reader doesn't yet understand what stages are, so a brief parenthetical explanation would be helpful.
The defining equipment used by a scuba diver is the eponymous scuba, the self-contained underwater breathing apparatus which allows the diver to breathe while diving, and is transported by the diver: I know this is just an introductory sentence, but I think it could be cut. Readers will know this is what we're talking about by this point in the article; it doesn't give the reader any new information.
Since I've suggested a couple of things that could lead to reorganizing the article to some extent, I'm going to pause the review here and wait for your comments before continuing. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 23:20, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Just catching up with some strikes; the unstruck ones are ones I think you're still working on, so let me know if that's not that case. When you're ready let me know and I'll do another read through. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 22:55, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Peter, I was about to start another read through and this time found myself stopping at the first sentence of the history section: The history of scuba diving is closely linked with the history of scuba equipment
. What's the boundary between the two articles? I can see it's hard to talk about the history of diving without covering the equipment history, but how are the article intended to be different? Should the two in fact be the same article,
History of scuba diving, with {{
main}} links from both
scuba set and
scuba diving, and summary sections left in those places with a different focus in each?
Mike Christie (
talk -
contribs -
library)
02:34, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Starting another set of comments.
Cylindrically curved faceplates such as those used for firefighting full-face masks: needs some tweaking; not a grammatical structure.
That's everything I can see. The article is now in excellent shape. Mike Christie ( talk - contribs - library) 17:31, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to point out that there is only one female pictured on this page (and in a bikini only learning to dive at that). There is no mention of the gender preconceptions, the historical male dominance in the field, or the now diminishing gender gap in the sport. (unsigned comment by IP 76.11.147.214 moved to bottom of page)
I don't understand why the article on scuba diving is written in British English. There is no such thing as a famous scuba diver and Britain is not famous for recreational diving destinations. The world's most famous dive destinations are located in the Caribbean, not cold water climates such as England. Also, Britain has a smaller number of recreational divers in comparison with other countries such as the United States. I am absolutely certain that this article is perused by a relatively small number of Brits in comparison with people from other countries. Anthony22 ( talk) 11:26, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
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