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Do we really need the album cover placeholder in the infobox? We all know that the second the cover art comes out someone will upload it and IMO the placeholder looks poor. Unless there are more folks that disagree with me than agree I'm going to remove it. Thanks J04n( talk page) 00:11, 31 March 2010 (UTC) reply

There seems to be some confusion over this topic. It seems that all of the editors involved understand just fine that Zakk Wylde debuted on No Rest For The Wicked, and that the previous album The Ultimate Sin did not feature Zakk Wylde on guitar. Therefore the phrase "this is the first album to NOT feature Zakk Wylde on guitar since..." should properly be completed with "The Ultimate Sin", not "No Rest For The Wicked". It seems odd that there has to be an edit war over such a thing. Garth 187 ( talk) 16:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC) reply

Agreed. Muttdog ( talk) 17:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC) reply

Fixed. Good call. SSBDelphiki ( talk) 09:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC) reply

Since the confusion continues, I decided to change it up a little bit, hopefully this wording can satisfy all parties. "It marks the first album of original material by Osbourne to not feature guitarist Zakk Wylde since his debut on No Rest for the Wicked in 1988, and the first not to feature drummer Mike Bordin since his debut on Down to Earth in 2001." Garth 187 ( talk) 17:09, 30 May 2010 (UTC) reply

I agree there should be a distinction made that Screm is the first album of "original material" released by Ozzy without Zakk Wylde since No Rest. Why was the "original material" distinction removed? I restored the "original material" distinction. 99.40.240.70 ( talk) 14:06, 26 June 2010 (UTC) reply

Good idea, however you just sparked my nitpick mode once again. This isn't "the first album without Zakk since No Rest". If that were true, then that would mean that Zakk did not play on No Rest. This is "the first album without Zakk since Ultimate Sin", since that album ALSO did not have Zakk. This is, however, "the first album without Zakk 'since his debut' on No Rest". I know I am being very picky, but there is in fact a subtle distinction in context between each phrase. Thanks for your patience. Garth 187 ( talk) 20:48, 30 June 2010 (UTC) reply

Agree with Garth's distinction and wording. J04n( talk page) 21:38, 30 June 2010 (UTC) reply

http://i41.tinypic.com/23haelc.jpg

Would this work for the album placeholder until the art is released? It was at the end of the demo of Let Me Hear You Scream. Muttdog ( talk) 17:25, 18 April 2010 (UTC) reply

No, wait for the real thing. Nymf _hideliho! 23:31, 18 April 2010 (UTC) reply

Tommy Clufetos has replaced Mike Bordin on drums for Ozzy, because Bordin is touring with Faith No More. Stop reverting the personnel to Mike Bordin.

The two bonus track listings: 'One More Time' (iTunes pre-order track) and 'Jump the Moon' (Japanese edition track) are confirmed tracks. Stop deleting the listings and the references! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.100.217.41 ( talk) 05:03, 4 June 2010 (UTC) reply

Europe 11 June 2010? England 14 June 2010? This confuses me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.247.28 ( talk) 18:43, 13 June 2010 (UTC) reply

It just means that the UK has a different release date than the rest of mainland Europe. Garth 187 ( talk) 01:09, 18 June 2010 (UTC) reply

The Under Cover album is listed as a Studio album, which would make this the 11th studio album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.179.206.239 ( talk) 02:19, 6 January 2014 (UTC) reply

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