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I've slightly altered that section. Last year I was told that this directory was out of date, and may soon be deleted as some of the details were out of date. I've highlighted the three main Scout Association owned sites that I know of. DiverScout ( talk) 13:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Is ref 6, identical to ref 4, but just older? They look to have similar content at least. I think the pdf file is the latest. -- Bduke (Discussion) 23:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Before anyone gets "delete-happy" on the graphics content of this page, please note that all County and Area badges are referred to directly in the text of the page, and that a selection of District badges are also being explained in detail in the text.
At the moment there are probably too many District badges, and many have yet had their details added - but this page is a work in progress. The number will be reduced to 2 District badges per county as content is added. Please allow me to complete it before making edits that I may be required to revert.
DiverScout (
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12:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
The badges that I could justify and provide a rationale for are now listed. I decided to limit it to 2 District badges per County. Essex also has an old looking badge on the article, but I have no idea what it is. Anyone able to help?
Just time to start adding photographs and extra details now.
DiverScout (
talk)
19:24, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
We have a minor edit-war on District badges. I personally agree with DiverScout and disagree with Chris (クリス • フィッチ). The version with no galleries is the version with no District badges and no description of them. To me it is not a question of policy. I just do not see that the District badges are notable or that the information provided about the badges is of any relevance to Scouting in the region. Of course any badge can be described. In what sense is the description encyclopedic. I also find the descriptions plus the galleries gives undue weight to the badges. I also do not want this to spread to the other region articles. -- Bduke (Discussion) 06:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, I did call it "minor", but if you are offended I apologize. However, could you both please address the points I made? Why are Districts badges notable? Why, as a new point, should we limit the galleries to two Districts? Why is the description of the badges relevant to the article. They seem to be to be just added to give justification for adding the images and so are playing the system. Why are these justifications not giving undue weight to the article? I'm sorry, but I get rather fed up trying to keep these articles encyclopedic. We got rid of the clutter of Group lists. Now almost all edits are cluttering up these articles with badges, or lists of Gang Shows, or trivial information about trivial camp sites. Early morning winge. I need more coffee. -- Bduke (Discussion) 23:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Gramatically, shouldn't it be Scouting in the East of England? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) ( talk) 15:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
It has been proposed that Tolmers Scout Camp be merged to this article. There were early concerns about this being a copyright violation from the Camp Site's web pages, but a different editor later removed it saying it was OK. However it still largely covers the material on those web pages. Most sections are not sourced and most are not notable. There may be notable things about a Service Crew for example, but just having one is not notable. Almost all camp sites have them. Similarly most of the material about accommodation and activities is not notable, along with much else. However, there is material that should be added to the region article at Scouting in East of England#Hertfordshire under a sub-heading but it only needs a few sentences. I am not proposing deletion of all material and making it a redirect. It will be a proper redirect to a brief section here, which is all that is needed to be said about this camp site. Note that we do have some articles on the 5 national activity centres, such as Gilwell Park, Downe Scout Activity Centre and Youlbury Scout Activity Centre. We have yet to have one for Hawkhirst Scout Activity Centre. As national centres these are notable, but the many non-national activity centres are not. Please add your comments below:- -- Bduke (Discussion) 02:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
There has been a discussion at Talk:Scouting in South West England#Not a satisfactory article that could equally apply to this article and all other 11 region articles in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. I have moved the discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting#Scouting in the regions of England. Please take a look. -- Bduke (Discussion) 09:32, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
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I've slightly altered that section. Last year I was told that this directory was out of date, and may soon be deleted as some of the details were out of date. I've highlighted the three main Scout Association owned sites that I know of. DiverScout ( talk) 13:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Is ref 6, identical to ref 4, but just older? They look to have similar content at least. I think the pdf file is the latest. -- Bduke (Discussion) 23:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Before anyone gets "delete-happy" on the graphics content of this page, please note that all County and Area badges are referred to directly in the text of the page, and that a selection of District badges are also being explained in detail in the text.
At the moment there are probably too many District badges, and many have yet had their details added - but this page is a work in progress. The number will be reduced to 2 District badges per county as content is added. Please allow me to complete it before making edits that I may be required to revert.
DiverScout (
talk)
12:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
The badges that I could justify and provide a rationale for are now listed. I decided to limit it to 2 District badges per County. Essex also has an old looking badge on the article, but I have no idea what it is. Anyone able to help?
Just time to start adding photographs and extra details now.
DiverScout (
talk)
19:24, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
We have a minor edit-war on District badges. I personally agree with DiverScout and disagree with Chris (クリス • フィッチ). The version with no galleries is the version with no District badges and no description of them. To me it is not a question of policy. I just do not see that the District badges are notable or that the information provided about the badges is of any relevance to Scouting in the region. Of course any badge can be described. In what sense is the description encyclopedic. I also find the descriptions plus the galleries gives undue weight to the badges. I also do not want this to spread to the other region articles. -- Bduke (Discussion) 06:55, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, I did call it "minor", but if you are offended I apologize. However, could you both please address the points I made? Why are Districts badges notable? Why, as a new point, should we limit the galleries to two Districts? Why is the description of the badges relevant to the article. They seem to be to be just added to give justification for adding the images and so are playing the system. Why are these justifications not giving undue weight to the article? I'm sorry, but I get rather fed up trying to keep these articles encyclopedic. We got rid of the clutter of Group lists. Now almost all edits are cluttering up these articles with badges, or lists of Gang Shows, or trivial information about trivial camp sites. Early morning winge. I need more coffee. -- Bduke (Discussion) 23:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Gramatically, shouldn't it be Scouting in the East of England? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) ( talk) 15:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
It has been proposed that Tolmers Scout Camp be merged to this article. There were early concerns about this being a copyright violation from the Camp Site's web pages, but a different editor later removed it saying it was OK. However it still largely covers the material on those web pages. Most sections are not sourced and most are not notable. There may be notable things about a Service Crew for example, but just having one is not notable. Almost all camp sites have them. Similarly most of the material about accommodation and activities is not notable, along with much else. However, there is material that should be added to the region article at Scouting in East of England#Hertfordshire under a sub-heading but it only needs a few sentences. I am not proposing deletion of all material and making it a redirect. It will be a proper redirect to a brief section here, which is all that is needed to be said about this camp site. Note that we do have some articles on the 5 national activity centres, such as Gilwell Park, Downe Scout Activity Centre and Youlbury Scout Activity Centre. We have yet to have one for Hawkhirst Scout Activity Centre. As national centres these are notable, but the many non-national activity centres are not. Please add your comments below:- -- Bduke (Discussion) 02:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
There has been a discussion at Talk:Scouting in South West England#Not a satisfactory article that could equally apply to this article and all other 11 region articles in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. I have moved the discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting#Scouting in the regions of England. Please take a look. -- Bduke (Discussion) 09:32, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
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