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@ Huldra: What are your issues this time?
What's your issue regarding wp:due?
-- Bob drobbs ( talk) 05:42, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
The Jewish Human Rights Watch (JHRW) report was covered in The Algemeiner , a reliable source, and mentioned in a US State Dept. Annual report, attesting to its notability, I don't see an issue with either RS or DUE.
Inf-in MD (
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weight is measured by how much prominence a viewpoint has received in reliable sources, yes, that is pretty much what I wrote above - Weight is measured by coverage the report got in reliable sources. And there is coverage. If you question The Algemeiner's reliability, the place to discuss it is RSN. The discussions of it I've seen there indicate it is generally reliable. I don't know if JHRW is a "registered charity" and I don't see why it would matter. It has a director - Jonathan Neumann, [1], and you can probably fetch their address from the court papers if you're inclined to invest time in this. If they filed a lawsuit, they are real. Inf-in MD ( talk) 23:21, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
[2] Inf-in MD ( talk) 00:13, 10 December 2021 (UTC)"In July Member of Parliament (MP) John Mann, leader of the All-Party Parliamentary Group Against Anti-Semitism, called for action to be taken against “racists,” following the publication of a report written by pro-Israel blogger David Collier and funded by Jewish Human Rights Watch citing links between the Scottish Palestinian Solidarity Campaign and anti-Semitism in Scotland. The report stated there was a correlation between anti-Semitism and anti-Israel attitudes. Jewish Human Rights Watch commissioned the report in 2016 after protestors at a festival in Edinburgh celebrating Israeli culture chanted, “No to Brand Israel.”"
Interesting to note that the two Times cites in the last sentence of the lead both refer to what we know as a report by Collier, as a report by JHRW and don't mention Collier at all. The BBC article cites a JHRW representative, apparently this chap, https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/author/robert-festenstein/ , who'd a thought it? Selfstudier ( talk) 18:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
If this article is to include allegations that Scottish PSC is antisemitic, it must also include this story from the Daily Record: Top pro-Israel lawyer faked vandalism attack at Scots home in plot to frame Palestine group. Basically, a Glasgow lawyer was fined by the Scottish Law Society after he conspired with another member of Glasgow Friends of Israel to stage a false antisemitic attack on his home in an attempt to discredit SPSC. David Collier, it should be noted, is a prominent supporter of this character. Any allegations emanating from Collier should be examined carefully, and never accepted on face value. RolandR ( talk) 16:16, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
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@ Huldra: What are your issues this time?
What's your issue regarding wp:due?
-- Bob drobbs ( talk) 05:42, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
The Jewish Human Rights Watch (JHRW) report was covered in The Algemeiner , a reliable source, and mentioned in a US State Dept. Annual report, attesting to its notability, I don't see an issue with either RS or DUE.
Inf-in MD (
talk)
21:38, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
weight is measured by how much prominence a viewpoint has received in reliable sources, yes, that is pretty much what I wrote above - Weight is measured by coverage the report got in reliable sources. And there is coverage. If you question The Algemeiner's reliability, the place to discuss it is RSN. The discussions of it I've seen there indicate it is generally reliable. I don't know if JHRW is a "registered charity" and I don't see why it would matter. It has a director - Jonathan Neumann, [1], and you can probably fetch their address from the court papers if you're inclined to invest time in this. If they filed a lawsuit, they are real. Inf-in MD ( talk) 23:21, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
[2] Inf-in MD ( talk) 00:13, 10 December 2021 (UTC)"In July Member of Parliament (MP) John Mann, leader of the All-Party Parliamentary Group Against Anti-Semitism, called for action to be taken against “racists,” following the publication of a report written by pro-Israel blogger David Collier and funded by Jewish Human Rights Watch citing links between the Scottish Palestinian Solidarity Campaign and anti-Semitism in Scotland. The report stated there was a correlation between anti-Semitism and anti-Israel attitudes. Jewish Human Rights Watch commissioned the report in 2016 after protestors at a festival in Edinburgh celebrating Israeli culture chanted, “No to Brand Israel.”"
Interesting to note that the two Times cites in the last sentence of the lead both refer to what we know as a report by Collier, as a report by JHRW and don't mention Collier at all. The BBC article cites a JHRW representative, apparently this chap, https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/author/robert-festenstein/ , who'd a thought it? Selfstudier ( talk) 18:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
If this article is to include allegations that Scottish PSC is antisemitic, it must also include this story from the Daily Record: Top pro-Israel lawyer faked vandalism attack at Scots home in plot to frame Palestine group. Basically, a Glasgow lawyer was fined by the Scottish Law Society after he conspired with another member of Glasgow Friends of Israel to stage a false antisemitic attack on his home in an attempt to discredit SPSC. David Collier, it should be noted, is a prominent supporter of this character. Any allegations emanating from Collier should be examined carefully, and never accepted on face value. RolandR ( talk) 16:16, 10 December 2021 (UTC)