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An identical discussion doubting the "country" likeness has been opened by the same anonymous 122.105.217.71 for talk:Wales#It is not a Country, talk:England#It is not a Country, talk:Northern Ireland#It is not a Country as well as talk:Scotland#It is not a Country. The focus has been on the "definition" according to the wiki article and has sparked extended debate. As the law of the UK clearly states these regions are countries I would strongly suggest to close it here, as no argument on Wikipedia is going to change UK law. Arnoutf ( talk) 19:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Why do you think I'm a troll? 122.105.217.71 ( talk) 06:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Give me one example of me doing that. 122.105.216.1 ( talk) 07:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
How am i disrupting wikipedia? 122.105.216.1 ( talk) 00:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The history section has just about doubled in size recently with the addition of largely unreferenced content on early modern Scotland, "Union of Crowns", etc. It goes into far too much detail for this article, and is more fitting for History of Scotland article. I say restore the earlier stable version, or at least trim the new material into good size and add cite tags. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 18:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Give me one example of me doing that. 122.105.216.1 ( talk) 07:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I know that what remains of modern Scots is highly colloquial, and I'm sure that "Wha daur meddle wi me?" is roughly accurate but it doesn't really carry the gravitas of a motto. It is a liberal translation (it's a question whereas the Latin is clearly a statement) and the English would be "Who dares meddle with me?" which is hardly something you'd write in an engraving. I would suggest something like "Naebody chowe me athoot bein brankt" although my Scots is appalling. Wee Jimmy ( talk) 00:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Please see the various discussions in Archive 13. Archives 10-13 Thanks.
Ben MacDui
Talk/
Walk
09:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
As the volume of archive grows ease of access becomes an issue. The 'archive-nav' templates were not working on nos 8-15 so I have moved the pages to enable them. For future reference the archive page names need to be e.g. "Talk:Scotland/Archive 15" as opposed to "Talk:Scotland/Archive15" i.e there needs to be a space between 'Archive' & '15' etc. I bet you didn't know that. Ben MacDui Talk/ Walk 09:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Well it was working - now on some of them e.g. Archive 11, the forward link on the {atn} template opens Archive 12 in edit mode. No idea why. A minor glitch. 15 and 16 are using the {archivenav} template that seems to work OK. Ben MacDui Talk/ Walk 09:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
A conversation about the current maps used to represent the constituent countries has been started at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#Something_amiss_in_Scotland. This discussion is hopefully to resolve issues that have been raised and to try to set a standard within the UK. For all those that wish to comment on this, your input is requested. Thank-you :-) -- UKPhoenix79 ( talk) 02:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I am about to leave this forum Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#Something_amiss_in_Scotland as life demands my attention. If someone else wishes to champion the current concensus, be my guest. Rab-k ( talk) 19:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
216.236.125.18 ( talk) 22:29, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Following the discussions on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography with the almost unanimously conclusion that the map in the info box for Scotland should give reference to its inclusion in the UK, I would like to call your attention to this issue.
We are advocating this change mainly to warrant consistency with respect to other comparable articles. The current state appears misleading in the sense that readers might interpret the map that Scotland is an independent state, that is because it uses the same style Liuzzo map as many articles on European nations that are sovereign states. The current map further deters consistency within the UK articles, where maps for England, Wales, and NI all tone reference to the UK, which corresponds nicely with wikipedia's practice on almost all sub-national entities.
As there was no sustainable argumentation presented for the current use of the map, we are looking forward to discussing the issue here, and potentially change the map. Tomeasy ( talk) 12:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
"we shouldn't fear bullies" and edits such as this are totally unacceptable and pure bad faith. You folks should follow the policies of wikipedia or don't bother editing. You are crossing a golden lines here. SFC9394 ( talk) 18:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
When I read a page describing Scotland I want to see where Scotland is, not England or Wales or anywhere else! I get the impression this conversation has been going on for a long long time! Does'nt there come a time when some people just think "I'm not going to win this conversation" and just leave it alone?-- Jack forbes ( talk) 19:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Ok take a look at these articles below. I have highlighted the unique parts of each TOC.
Scotland | Bavaria | Sicily | California | New South Wales |
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Now you may notice that Save California each sub-country entity shows the actual Country and its subdivisions nothing more or less. This is what I propose for the UK subdivisions. Lets follow suit! This will give a better close-up of the parts of the UK since currently it is very far away. Checking around it looks like only countries really use the current map so I believe that here lies the fault. Anyone know of a good map to use? I unfortunately wont have time to look for one. But if none are found I will look myself. Please remember the Irish when doing this and make sure that most if not all of the Isle of Ireland is shown and that N. Ireland is not the only part shown. So something more akin to Bretagne would work perfectly. I believe that this is the best option left to us! -- UKPhoenix79 ( talk) 19:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I've taken a little survey of the users involved and their positions, based on the discussions both here and at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography#Something amiss in Scotland. Please feel free to add your name to whatever list you belong to, or change any errors I've made.
If you wish to conduct a straw poll (yet again) I suggest you count the views of the editors of this article rather than those of others. Furthermore, my suspicion is that your views would tend to be treated more seriously if you had heretofore made any serious attempt to actually improve the article, rather than re-starting a debate that has been gone over several times already, often involving strong feelings bordering on incivility. It would also at least be more interesting if a new idea or view was being presented rather than just a re-hash of all the old stuff. Do some people actually enjoy this or is it a compulsion? - ( I ask myself). Ben MacDui Talk/ Walk 09:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
As this old content-dispute has grown so lively again of late, I've stuck a three day protection on it. In that period at least we can keep the argumentation confined to this talk page, keep users out of trouble, and hopefully come closer to general understanding in the mean time. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 10:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I can understand that some people feel unhappy with the map that has recently been introduced showing only the British Isles. In deed, geographically it is less descriptive and we should anyway wait for this discussion to come to an end before we change the map.
My proposition would be to use exactly the map that we have right now, improved by light orange shades for the territories of England, Wales, and NI. This way the the full geographical meaning will be restored and the discrepancy with maps shown for other sub-nationals would be abrogated. Tomeasy ( talk) 16:23, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
There seams to be 4 solutions to this
Keep the map. This option is to highlight only the constituent country in question and to show an expanded view of Europe as a whole.
examples from other countries (currently none known)
Please comment by following this format:
This option is to highlight all of the UK and have a different colour for the constituent country in question and to show an expanded view of Europe as a whole.
examples from other countries (currently none known)
Please comment by following this format:
To show only the country and its constituent parts keeping in line with other countries allow people to go to the main country page to get a wider geographical location.
3A
3B
3C
examples from other countries
Please comment by following this format:
To show a close up of the UK shade any nations that are not a part of the UK in a different colour. The
constituent country in question will have a different colour to the rest of the UK.
4A
4B
4C
examples from other countries
Please comment by following this format:
Here is a list of one major subdivision (lack of a better term) of every country on the planet (193 Countries listed) Excluding the UK.
To show an expanded view of the continent the country is on. The subdivision in question will have a different colour to the entire continent including the countries other subdivisions.
Total = 0/193
To show an expanded view of the continent the country is on and shade any other country in the same colour (different to the country itself). The subdivision in question will have a different colour to the rest of the country.
Total = 0/193
To show only the country and its subdivisions, no other neighbouring country shown. The subdivision in question will have a different colour to the rest of the country.
Africa = 43/52
Image:Angola Provinces Cuando Cubango 250px.png
Image:Botswana-Kgalagadi.png
Image:BurkinaFaso Centre-Nord.png
Image:Burundi Bururi.png
Image:Cameroon Extreme North 300px.png
Image:Locator map of São Nicolau, Cape Verde.png
Image:CAR-BasseKotto.png
Image:Chad-Logone Oriental region.png
Image:Mohéli in Comoros.png
Image:DCongoManiema.png
Image:Congo-Plateaux.png
Image:Coted'Ivoire ValleeduBandama.png
Image:Djibouti-Dikhilregion.png
Image:Eritrea Gash-Barka.png
Image:Ethiopia-Oromia.png
Image:Gabon-Moyen-Ogooue.png
Image:Gambia-NorthBank.png
Image:Ghana-Northern.png
Image:Guinea Kindia.png
Image:Guinea-Bissau Oio.png
Image:Kenya-RiftValley.png
Image:Lesotho Districts Thaba-Tseka 250px.png
Image:Libyen Wadi Al Shatii.png
Image:MadagascarMahajanga.png
Image:MW-Lilongwe.png
Image:Mali Sikasso.png
Image:Mauritania-Brakna.png
Image:Mauritius-Plaines Wilhems.png
Image:Mozambique Provinces Tete 250px.png
Image:Namibia Regions Otjozondjupa 250px.png
Image:Niger Dosso.png
Image:NigeriaNiger.png
Image:Rwanda-South.png
Image:Senegal Tambacounda.png
Image:SC-Belombre.png
Image:Sierra Leone PortLoko.png
Image:Somalia regions map Jubbada Hoose.svg
Image:South Africa Provinces showing FS.png
Image:Tanzania Mtwara.png
Image:TN-18.svg
Image:Uganda Kaberamaido.png
Image:ZM-Western.png
Image:Province of Mashonaland Central.svg
Americas = 22/35
Image:Antigua-Saint Mary.png
Image:Barbados-Saint George.png
Image:Bolivia-Santa Cruz.png
Image:Mapa loc Antofagasta.svg
Image:Camagüey Province Location.png
Image:Dominica-Saint Joseph.png
Image:DomRepSanJuan.png
Image:El Salvador-San Salvador.png
Image:Grenada-Saint Andrew.png
Image:AltaVerapazGUAT.PNG
Image:Guyana-Potaro-Siparuni.png
Image:HondurasOlancho.png
Image:Jamaica-Saint Elizabeth.png
Image:Mexico map, MX-CHH.svg
Image:NicaraguaRAAN.png
Image:Chiriquí.png
Image:StKitts-Nevis JCA.png
Image:Santa lucia dennery political.png
Image:SVG Saint Andrew.png
Image:Suriname-Coronie.png
Image:Uruguay-Florida.png
Image:Venezuela-amazonas.jpg
Asia = 29/46 (including Taiwan)
Image:Afghanistan-Bamiyan.png
Image:ArmeniaGegharkunik.png
Image:BH-02.svg
Image:LocMap Bangladesh Dhaka.png
Image:BhutanWangduePhodrang.png
Image:IranYazd.png
Image:IraqDiyala.png
Image:Israel haifa dist.png
Image:Map of Japan with highlight on 14 Kanagawa 神奈川県.svg
Image:Jordan-Mafraq.png
Image:Kar obl.svg
Image:South Hwanghae NK.png
Image:Jeollanam SK.png
Image:Kuwait-Al Ahmadi.png
Image:KyrgyzstanOsh.png
Image:Lebanon-Beqaa.png
Image:Map mn dornogobi aimag.png
Image:MyanmarShan.png
Image:Oman Al Wusta.png
Image:PakistanBalochistan.png
Image:QA-07.svg
Image:Saudi Arabia - Ar Riyad province locator.png
Image:North Central province Sri Lanka.png
Image:Homs.PNG
Image:Hsinchu County Location Map.png
Image:Tj1-kaart.png
Image:TurkmenistanBalkan.png
Image:UZ-Navoiy.PNG
Image:Yemen-Hadhramaut.png
Europe = 32/43
Image:AlbaniaBeratCounty.png
Image:Andorra-Escaldes-Engordany.png
Image:Austria ooe.svg
Image:BelarusHrodnaRegion.png
Image:Vlaams GewestLocatie.png
Image:BosniaCantonZenicaDoboj.png
Image:Oblast Burgas.png
Image:CroatiaBjelovar-Bilogora.png
Image:Cyprus-Larnaca.png
Image:Karlovarsky kraj.svg
Image:Map DK Region Midtjylland.png
Image:Ida-Viru maakond.svg
Image:FI-LS.svg
Image:Deutschland Lage von Bayern.svg
Image:GreeceEpirus.png
Image:HU county Borsod Abauj Zemplen.svg
Image:Italy Regions Sicily Map.png
Image:Panevezio apskritis.png
Image:Latvia-Riga.png
Image:District DiekirchLocatie.png
Image:MKD muni nonn(Prilep).png
Image:Kolašin-Position.PNG
Image:Gelderland position.svg
Image:Oppland kart.png
Image:Wojewodztwo dolnoslaskie.png
Image:LocalDistritoGuarda.svg
Image:San Marino-Acquaviva.png
Image:Nitrakrajloc.png
Image:Pokrajine spodnja stajerska.png
Image:Localización Castilla y León.png
Image:Svcmap vasterbotten.png
Image:Swiss Canton Map BE.png
Oceania = 7/14
Image:New South Wales locator-MJC.png
Image:Aiwomap.jpg
Image:Position of Southland Region.png
Image:Papua new guinea east new britain province.png
Image:Samoa-Gaga'emauga.png
Image:Solomon Islands-Malaita.png
Image:Shefa.PNG
Transcontinental countries = 2/3
Image:Egypt-Bani Suwayf.png
Image:Map of Russia - Sakha (Yakutia) Republic (2008-03).svg
Total = 135/193
To show a close up of the country and shade any other country seen in the closeup in the same colour (different to the country itself). The subdivision in question will have a different colour to the rest of the country.
Africa = 5/52
Image:DZ-01.svg
Image:Benin Alibori.png
Image:Equatorial Guinea-Centro Sur.png
Image:Gharb-Chrarda-Béni Hssen.svg
Image:Schamal Darfur.PNG
Americas = 12/35
Image:Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina.png
Image:Bf-map.gif
Image:BelizeStannCreek.png
Image:Brazil State MatoGrosso.svg
Image:Alberta-map.png
Image:Republic of Colombia - Meta.png
Image:Costa Rica Guanacaste.png
Image:EC-moronasantiago-map.PNG
Image:Haiti-Artibonite.png
Image:Paraguay Presidente Hayes.png
Image:Location of Loreto region.png
Image:Map of USA CA.svg
Asia = 12/46
Image:Azerbaijan-Quba.png
Image:Brunei-Brunei and Muara.png
Image:Jilin CN.png
Image:Georgia Kakheti map.png
Image:India Maharashtra locator map.svg
Image:Indonesia, North Sumatra.png
Image:Laos Khammouan.png
Image:Kelantan state locator.PNG
Image:Ph luzviminda.png
Image:Thailand Central.png
Image:East Timor-Viqueque.png
Image:LocationVietnamQuangTri.png
Europe = 5/43
Image:Bretagne map.png
Image:IrelandCork.png
Image:Cahul raion.png
Image:LocalDistritoGuarda.svg
Image:Map of Ukraine political simple Oblast Iwano-Frankiwsk.png
Transcontinental countries = 1/3
Image:Sivas Turkey Provinces locator.jpg
Total = 35/193
no major subdivisions
Note that the following countries have no major subdivisions listed:
Africa = 4/52
Liberia
Swaziland
Togo
Trinidad and Tobago
Asia = 2/46
Cambodia
Singapore
Europe = 3/43
Liechtenstein
Malta
Vatican City
Oceania = 1/14
Fiji
Total = 10/193
no map for subdivisions
Country subdivided but no real map created specifically for one major subdivision in:
Africa = 1/52
São Tomé and Príncipe
Americas = 1/35
The Bahamas
Asia = 3/46
Maldives
Nepal
United Arab Emirates
Europe = 3/43
Iceland
Monaco
Serbia
Oceania = 6/14
Kiribati
Marshall Islands
Federated States of Micronesia
Palau
Tonga
Tuvalu
Total = 14/193
Please check my work to keep me honest and write notes or use <s></s> to notify of any changes so that it can be verified. I hope that you all like the work I put into all of this. It took over 5 hours to do all of this <phew> -- UKPhoenix79 ( talk) 09:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
please leave any comments here.
This, I take it, is the place where to register a complaint about the Republic of Ireland being included in the maps of the UK? Oh, I see, the problem was that the map of Scotland didn't have the rest of the UK shaded in? Did this unease some British nationalist sentiment? Well, boo-hoo! So, by compromise you shade the Republic of Ireland in along with the UK? "Location of XXX in the United Kingdom"!? From a quick browse of the above "discussion", I see the usual British nationalist cadre are out en force to push their particular brand of jingoism. Did shading in the Republic along with your rickety little union assuage the unease set loose by rebellious Scots? I've reverted all of these offensive little nationalist scribbles. -- sony-youth pléigh 18:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
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Archive 10 | ← | Archive 15 | Archive 16 | Archive 17 | Archive 18 | Archive 19 | Archive 20 |
An identical discussion doubting the "country" likeness has been opened by the same anonymous 122.105.217.71 for talk:Wales#It is not a Country, talk:England#It is not a Country, talk:Northern Ireland#It is not a Country as well as talk:Scotland#It is not a Country. The focus has been on the "definition" according to the wiki article and has sparked extended debate. As the law of the UK clearly states these regions are countries I would strongly suggest to close it here, as no argument on Wikipedia is going to change UK law. Arnoutf ( talk) 19:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Why do you think I'm a troll? 122.105.217.71 ( talk) 06:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Give me one example of me doing that. 122.105.216.1 ( talk) 07:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
How am i disrupting wikipedia? 122.105.216.1 ( talk) 00:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The history section has just about doubled in size recently with the addition of largely unreferenced content on early modern Scotland, "Union of Crowns", etc. It goes into far too much detail for this article, and is more fitting for History of Scotland article. I say restore the earlier stable version, or at least trim the new material into good size and add cite tags. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 18:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Give me one example of me doing that. 122.105.216.1 ( talk) 07:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I know that what remains of modern Scots is highly colloquial, and I'm sure that "Wha daur meddle wi me?" is roughly accurate but it doesn't really carry the gravitas of a motto. It is a liberal translation (it's a question whereas the Latin is clearly a statement) and the English would be "Who dares meddle with me?" which is hardly something you'd write in an engraving. I would suggest something like "Naebody chowe me athoot bein brankt" although my Scots is appalling. Wee Jimmy ( talk) 00:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Please see the various discussions in Archive 13. Archives 10-13 Thanks.
Ben MacDui
Talk/
Walk
09:03, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
As the volume of archive grows ease of access becomes an issue. The 'archive-nav' templates were not working on nos 8-15 so I have moved the pages to enable them. For future reference the archive page names need to be e.g. "Talk:Scotland/Archive 15" as opposed to "Talk:Scotland/Archive15" i.e there needs to be a space between 'Archive' & '15' etc. I bet you didn't know that. Ben MacDui Talk/ Walk 09:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Well it was working - now on some of them e.g. Archive 11, the forward link on the {atn} template opens Archive 12 in edit mode. No idea why. A minor glitch. 15 and 16 are using the {archivenav} template that seems to work OK. Ben MacDui Talk/ Walk 09:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
A conversation about the current maps used to represent the constituent countries has been started at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#Something_amiss_in_Scotland. This discussion is hopefully to resolve issues that have been raised and to try to set a standard within the UK. For all those that wish to comment on this, your input is requested. Thank-you :-) -- UKPhoenix79 ( talk) 02:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I am about to leave this forum Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#Something_amiss_in_Scotland as life demands my attention. If someone else wishes to champion the current concensus, be my guest. Rab-k ( talk) 19:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
216.236.125.18 ( talk) 22:29, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Following the discussions on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography with the almost unanimously conclusion that the map in the info box for Scotland should give reference to its inclusion in the UK, I would like to call your attention to this issue.
We are advocating this change mainly to warrant consistency with respect to other comparable articles. The current state appears misleading in the sense that readers might interpret the map that Scotland is an independent state, that is because it uses the same style Liuzzo map as many articles on European nations that are sovereign states. The current map further deters consistency within the UK articles, where maps for England, Wales, and NI all tone reference to the UK, which corresponds nicely with wikipedia's practice on almost all sub-national entities.
As there was no sustainable argumentation presented for the current use of the map, we are looking forward to discussing the issue here, and potentially change the map. Tomeasy ( talk) 12:07, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
"we shouldn't fear bullies" and edits such as this are totally unacceptable and pure bad faith. You folks should follow the policies of wikipedia or don't bother editing. You are crossing a golden lines here. SFC9394 ( talk) 18:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
When I read a page describing Scotland I want to see where Scotland is, not England or Wales or anywhere else! I get the impression this conversation has been going on for a long long time! Does'nt there come a time when some people just think "I'm not going to win this conversation" and just leave it alone?-- Jack forbes ( talk) 19:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Ok take a look at these articles below. I have highlighted the unique parts of each TOC.
Scotland | Bavaria | Sicily | California | New South Wales |
---|---|---|---|---|
|
|
|
|
|
Now you may notice that Save California each sub-country entity shows the actual Country and its subdivisions nothing more or less. This is what I propose for the UK subdivisions. Lets follow suit! This will give a better close-up of the parts of the UK since currently it is very far away. Checking around it looks like only countries really use the current map so I believe that here lies the fault. Anyone know of a good map to use? I unfortunately wont have time to look for one. But if none are found I will look myself. Please remember the Irish when doing this and make sure that most if not all of the Isle of Ireland is shown and that N. Ireland is not the only part shown. So something more akin to Bretagne would work perfectly. I believe that this is the best option left to us! -- UKPhoenix79 ( talk) 19:26, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I've taken a little survey of the users involved and their positions, based on the discussions both here and at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography#Something amiss in Scotland. Please feel free to add your name to whatever list you belong to, or change any errors I've made.
If you wish to conduct a straw poll (yet again) I suggest you count the views of the editors of this article rather than those of others. Furthermore, my suspicion is that your views would tend to be treated more seriously if you had heretofore made any serious attempt to actually improve the article, rather than re-starting a debate that has been gone over several times already, often involving strong feelings bordering on incivility. It would also at least be more interesting if a new idea or view was being presented rather than just a re-hash of all the old stuff. Do some people actually enjoy this or is it a compulsion? - ( I ask myself). Ben MacDui Talk/ Walk 09:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
As this old content-dispute has grown so lively again of late, I've stuck a three day protection on it. In that period at least we can keep the argumentation confined to this talk page, keep users out of trouble, and hopefully come closer to general understanding in the mean time. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk) 10:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I can understand that some people feel unhappy with the map that has recently been introduced showing only the British Isles. In deed, geographically it is less descriptive and we should anyway wait for this discussion to come to an end before we change the map.
My proposition would be to use exactly the map that we have right now, improved by light orange shades for the territories of England, Wales, and NI. This way the the full geographical meaning will be restored and the discrepancy with maps shown for other sub-nationals would be abrogated. Tomeasy ( talk) 16:23, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
There seams to be 4 solutions to this
Keep the map. This option is to highlight only the constituent country in question and to show an expanded view of Europe as a whole.
examples from other countries (currently none known)
Please comment by following this format:
This option is to highlight all of the UK and have a different colour for the constituent country in question and to show an expanded view of Europe as a whole.
examples from other countries (currently none known)
Please comment by following this format:
To show only the country and its constituent parts keeping in line with other countries allow people to go to the main country page to get a wider geographical location.
3A
3B
3C
examples from other countries
Please comment by following this format:
To show a close up of the UK shade any nations that are not a part of the UK in a different colour. The
constituent country in question will have a different colour to the rest of the UK.
4A
4B
4C
examples from other countries
Please comment by following this format:
Here is a list of one major subdivision (lack of a better term) of every country on the planet (193 Countries listed) Excluding the UK.
To show an expanded view of the continent the country is on. The subdivision in question will have a different colour to the entire continent including the countries other subdivisions.
Total = 0/193
To show an expanded view of the continent the country is on and shade any other country in the same colour (different to the country itself). The subdivision in question will have a different colour to the rest of the country.
Total = 0/193
To show only the country and its subdivisions, no other neighbouring country shown. The subdivision in question will have a different colour to the rest of the country.
Africa = 43/52
Image:Angola Provinces Cuando Cubango 250px.png
Image:Botswana-Kgalagadi.png
Image:BurkinaFaso Centre-Nord.png
Image:Burundi Bururi.png
Image:Cameroon Extreme North 300px.png
Image:Locator map of São Nicolau, Cape Verde.png
Image:CAR-BasseKotto.png
Image:Chad-Logone Oriental region.png
Image:Mohéli in Comoros.png
Image:DCongoManiema.png
Image:Congo-Plateaux.png
Image:Coted'Ivoire ValleeduBandama.png
Image:Djibouti-Dikhilregion.png
Image:Eritrea Gash-Barka.png
Image:Ethiopia-Oromia.png
Image:Gabon-Moyen-Ogooue.png
Image:Gambia-NorthBank.png
Image:Ghana-Northern.png
Image:Guinea Kindia.png
Image:Guinea-Bissau Oio.png
Image:Kenya-RiftValley.png
Image:Lesotho Districts Thaba-Tseka 250px.png
Image:Libyen Wadi Al Shatii.png
Image:MadagascarMahajanga.png
Image:MW-Lilongwe.png
Image:Mali Sikasso.png
Image:Mauritania-Brakna.png
Image:Mauritius-Plaines Wilhems.png
Image:Mozambique Provinces Tete 250px.png
Image:Namibia Regions Otjozondjupa 250px.png
Image:Niger Dosso.png
Image:NigeriaNiger.png
Image:Rwanda-South.png
Image:Senegal Tambacounda.png
Image:SC-Belombre.png
Image:Sierra Leone PortLoko.png
Image:Somalia regions map Jubbada Hoose.svg
Image:South Africa Provinces showing FS.png
Image:Tanzania Mtwara.png
Image:TN-18.svg
Image:Uganda Kaberamaido.png
Image:ZM-Western.png
Image:Province of Mashonaland Central.svg
Americas = 22/35
Image:Antigua-Saint Mary.png
Image:Barbados-Saint George.png
Image:Bolivia-Santa Cruz.png
Image:Mapa loc Antofagasta.svg
Image:Camagüey Province Location.png
Image:Dominica-Saint Joseph.png
Image:DomRepSanJuan.png
Image:El Salvador-San Salvador.png
Image:Grenada-Saint Andrew.png
Image:AltaVerapazGUAT.PNG
Image:Guyana-Potaro-Siparuni.png
Image:HondurasOlancho.png
Image:Jamaica-Saint Elizabeth.png
Image:Mexico map, MX-CHH.svg
Image:NicaraguaRAAN.png
Image:Chiriquí.png
Image:StKitts-Nevis JCA.png
Image:Santa lucia dennery political.png
Image:SVG Saint Andrew.png
Image:Suriname-Coronie.png
Image:Uruguay-Florida.png
Image:Venezuela-amazonas.jpg
Asia = 29/46 (including Taiwan)
Image:Afghanistan-Bamiyan.png
Image:ArmeniaGegharkunik.png
Image:BH-02.svg
Image:LocMap Bangladesh Dhaka.png
Image:BhutanWangduePhodrang.png
Image:IranYazd.png
Image:IraqDiyala.png
Image:Israel haifa dist.png
Image:Map of Japan with highlight on 14 Kanagawa 神奈川県.svg
Image:Jordan-Mafraq.png
Image:Kar obl.svg
Image:South Hwanghae NK.png
Image:Jeollanam SK.png
Image:Kuwait-Al Ahmadi.png
Image:KyrgyzstanOsh.png
Image:Lebanon-Beqaa.png
Image:Map mn dornogobi aimag.png
Image:MyanmarShan.png
Image:Oman Al Wusta.png
Image:PakistanBalochistan.png
Image:QA-07.svg
Image:Saudi Arabia - Ar Riyad province locator.png
Image:North Central province Sri Lanka.png
Image:Homs.PNG
Image:Hsinchu County Location Map.png
Image:Tj1-kaart.png
Image:TurkmenistanBalkan.png
Image:UZ-Navoiy.PNG
Image:Yemen-Hadhramaut.png
Europe = 32/43
Image:AlbaniaBeratCounty.png
Image:Andorra-Escaldes-Engordany.png
Image:Austria ooe.svg
Image:BelarusHrodnaRegion.png
Image:Vlaams GewestLocatie.png
Image:BosniaCantonZenicaDoboj.png
Image:Oblast Burgas.png
Image:CroatiaBjelovar-Bilogora.png
Image:Cyprus-Larnaca.png
Image:Karlovarsky kraj.svg
Image:Map DK Region Midtjylland.png
Image:Ida-Viru maakond.svg
Image:FI-LS.svg
Image:Deutschland Lage von Bayern.svg
Image:GreeceEpirus.png
Image:HU county Borsod Abauj Zemplen.svg
Image:Italy Regions Sicily Map.png
Image:Panevezio apskritis.png
Image:Latvia-Riga.png
Image:District DiekirchLocatie.png
Image:MKD muni nonn(Prilep).png
Image:Kolašin-Position.PNG
Image:Gelderland position.svg
Image:Oppland kart.png
Image:Wojewodztwo dolnoslaskie.png
Image:LocalDistritoGuarda.svg
Image:San Marino-Acquaviva.png
Image:Nitrakrajloc.png
Image:Pokrajine spodnja stajerska.png
Image:Localización Castilla y León.png
Image:Svcmap vasterbotten.png
Image:Swiss Canton Map BE.png
Oceania = 7/14
Image:New South Wales locator-MJC.png
Image:Aiwomap.jpg
Image:Position of Southland Region.png
Image:Papua new guinea east new britain province.png
Image:Samoa-Gaga'emauga.png
Image:Solomon Islands-Malaita.png
Image:Shefa.PNG
Transcontinental countries = 2/3
Image:Egypt-Bani Suwayf.png
Image:Map of Russia - Sakha (Yakutia) Republic (2008-03).svg
Total = 135/193
To show a close up of the country and shade any other country seen in the closeup in the same colour (different to the country itself). The subdivision in question will have a different colour to the rest of the country.
Africa = 5/52
Image:DZ-01.svg
Image:Benin Alibori.png
Image:Equatorial Guinea-Centro Sur.png
Image:Gharb-Chrarda-Béni Hssen.svg
Image:Schamal Darfur.PNG
Americas = 12/35
Image:Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina.png
Image:Bf-map.gif
Image:BelizeStannCreek.png
Image:Brazil State MatoGrosso.svg
Image:Alberta-map.png
Image:Republic of Colombia - Meta.png
Image:Costa Rica Guanacaste.png
Image:EC-moronasantiago-map.PNG
Image:Haiti-Artibonite.png
Image:Paraguay Presidente Hayes.png
Image:Location of Loreto region.png
Image:Map of USA CA.svg
Asia = 12/46
Image:Azerbaijan-Quba.png
Image:Brunei-Brunei and Muara.png
Image:Jilin CN.png
Image:Georgia Kakheti map.png
Image:India Maharashtra locator map.svg
Image:Indonesia, North Sumatra.png
Image:Laos Khammouan.png
Image:Kelantan state locator.PNG
Image:Ph luzviminda.png
Image:Thailand Central.png
Image:East Timor-Viqueque.png
Image:LocationVietnamQuangTri.png
Europe = 5/43
Image:Bretagne map.png
Image:IrelandCork.png
Image:Cahul raion.png
Image:LocalDistritoGuarda.svg
Image:Map of Ukraine political simple Oblast Iwano-Frankiwsk.png
Transcontinental countries = 1/3
Image:Sivas Turkey Provinces locator.jpg
Total = 35/193
no major subdivisions
Note that the following countries have no major subdivisions listed:
Africa = 4/52
Liberia
Swaziland
Togo
Trinidad and Tobago
Asia = 2/46
Cambodia
Singapore
Europe = 3/43
Liechtenstein
Malta
Vatican City
Oceania = 1/14
Fiji
Total = 10/193
no map for subdivisions
Country subdivided but no real map created specifically for one major subdivision in:
Africa = 1/52
São Tomé and Príncipe
Americas = 1/35
The Bahamas
Asia = 3/46
Maldives
Nepal
United Arab Emirates
Europe = 3/43
Iceland
Monaco
Serbia
Oceania = 6/14
Kiribati
Marshall Islands
Federated States of Micronesia
Palau
Tonga
Tuvalu
Total = 14/193
Please check my work to keep me honest and write notes or use <s></s> to notify of any changes so that it can be verified. I hope that you all like the work I put into all of this. It took over 5 hours to do all of this <phew> -- UKPhoenix79 ( talk) 09:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
please leave any comments here.
This, I take it, is the place where to register a complaint about the Republic of Ireland being included in the maps of the UK? Oh, I see, the problem was that the map of Scotland didn't have the rest of the UK shaded in? Did this unease some British nationalist sentiment? Well, boo-hoo! So, by compromise you shade the Republic of Ireland in along with the UK? "Location of XXX in the United Kingdom"!? From a quick browse of the above "discussion", I see the usual British nationalist cadre are out en force to push their particular brand of jingoism. Did shading in the Republic along with your rickety little union assuage the unease set loose by rebellious Scots? I've reverted all of these offensive little nationalist scribbles. -- sony-youth pléigh 18:02, 29 March 2008 (UTC)