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An infobox was requested for the 1968
Simon and Garfunkel version ("Scarborough Fair/Canticle") at
Wikipedia:WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_articles/List_of_notable_songs/12.
Done
Goodbyekitty137 19:26, 02 Feburary 2010 (UTC)
References
The notes in the picture is not the scores to Scarborough Fair!
added the Simon and Garfunkel arrangment; its a little messed up though, I'd parreciate it if someone could fix it
Anyone have a source for the information on the rift between Simon and Carthy, and its ending in 2000? Thanks. -- Allen 00:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
As part of a medieval recreation group, I often hear people refer to Pasley Sage Rosemary and Thyme as a concoction suppose to induce an abortion, and recover from one. This leads to an obvious second message to the song. The concoction is also believed to be a contracptive, but the "once was a true love" bits suggests not in this case.
I have yet to have anyone fully substantiate this, and can find little internet information I'd consider reliable.
Salvia (sage): good after miscarriage or abortion. http://www.henriettesherbal.com/archives/best/1994/salvia.html
It's possible Royal Thyme (Mentha pulegium aka Pennyroyal, which includes known abortive compound pulegone) is infered, but I not good enough at reading old script to determine if this likely.
Google keeps bringing me to this site - http://www.bidstrup.com/abortion.htm . However it appears to be part of a site full of bias and opinion stated as facts.
I'd also heard the theory that the herbs are all abortifacients, that is substances that can be used to cause a miscarriage. I discussed it with a herbalist friend who is also a member of the Order of the Laurel in the
Society for Creative Anachronism, and she said that at most one of them is and one could be, but that the combination was no more likely to cause miscarriage than any other random set of four herbs. So I think it's a myth. --
Eric TF Bat 00:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I have a book of Cecil Sharp collected songs amongst which is a song called The Lovers Tasks, it is clearly an early version of this song and the song is also clearly about abortion. However, the herbs listed are different but sage is in there.
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme are used in a bouquet garni. No connection with abortions. I've read/heard a number of versions of this song including the Cecil Sharp Lovers Tasks and NONE of them are about abortion. More to the point the herbs are different in at least this version: http://www.joe-offer.com/folkinfo/songs/20.html - (which also has a different tune) while this version has an entirely different line in the same place: http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4225 (A Cornish version) Panama1958 ( talk) 19:50, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
The verses do not belong here. Either a link to an external site, or a Wikisource reference, but not here. Goldfritha 23:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Indeed; i believe including full lyrics onto main pages violates copyright. I would advise the deletion of them,and adding a link to an external site on them. However, I'd rather hear a third opinion on the matter before any action if at all possible. Either confirmation or rejection.
Gowikiit 17:07, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
I am surprised that no-one has updated the main article to include a 'also seen in' reference to the British TV show 'Rosemary & Thyme.' It is obviously both a tribute and a link to the song.
Grandma Roses
Note, that Child includes some variants of The Elfin Knight which essentially are Scarborough Fair versions. Like with St. Stephen and Herod, the fact that the ballad continues to be known and sung doesn't in itself disqualify it from the 'popular ballads'.-- JoergenB 18:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
The passage with the list that itemizes what the herbs symbolize is random and unexplained. At the very least there should be a link to a page that explains these seemingly arbitrary assignments. Otherwise this interpretation should be removed. Atw13 06:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be quite a bit of confusion as to the melody of this song. As previously commented, the score in the image is not the tune most know of as being the song, which is that sung in the media file. The trivia section claims the melody to be the same tune as that of "We Three Kings." The "We Three Kings" I know is only vaguely similar at best to the Scarborough Fair in the media file, and nothing like the melody in the image. Another trivia file states, rightly, that the song is in the Dorian mode (again, the familiar one), but the melody in the image is E minor, not E Dorian. It is not outlandish to think there may be more than one melody to this song, and it would be nice if someone more knowledgeable could address that issue. Atw13 06:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Why is there a Sarah Brightman discography box at the bottom of the page? This is to me completely out of place. Joeykelly ( talk) 02:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
If we're going to have lyrics at all here -- and assuming the article is a serious investigation of this old song itself, rather than an S&G puff piece -- we should see other versions, some radically different, e.g.:
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About "parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme", I've always assumed that it was the singer remembering how the Fair smelled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.203.4.38 ( talk) 21:49, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Nothing here seems very relevant and much of it lacks citations...
212.183.2.130 (
talk) 12:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Somewhere back in October, someone deleted a cited connection between this ballad and The Elfin Knight (see this diff). As this deletion was completely unexplained, I have restored that material. - JRBrown ( talk) 00:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
The "other artists" section is a mess. First, it's so long and rambling that a lot of utter trivia has made its way into it. Aside from that, if that many people have recorded the song, is there really a point to listing them? It's like a list of actors who have played Hamlet, or a list of books about George Washington. - Jason A. Quest ( talk) 02:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Originally played in 3/4 time. Simon and Garfunkel's rendition makes it a little difficult to obtain because of the over-lapping time signatures which starts with 3/4 then shifts between 12/8 and 9/8 and ends back in 3/4. The bass is playing 8th notes when it comes in earlier in the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.77.173.100 ( talk) 17:49, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Is it? Orphan Wiki 21:58, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
In the original version of the melody, what is the correct rhythm of the word "parsley"?? It is 2+1 or R+1+1 (where R means rest)?? Georgia guy ( talk) 17:14, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I propose we delete the (s) and (her) from the text of the lyric, for three reasons:
Is there any good reason why Justin Hayward and Sarah Brightman should have their own sub-sections? Or why the Brightman version needs an infobox? There's nothing more significant about their versions over dozens of others. I'll be bold and relegate them to the status of "other artists", on the grounds of due weight. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 19:37, 27 October 2011 (UTC) PS: Though, frankly, the whole "other artists" section is so dismally full of trivia that it may be better to get rid of the whole section, other than a sentence saying something like: "The song has also been covered by many other musicians." Ghmyrtle ( talk) 19:42, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Aren't the lyrics given here from the Simon and Garfunkel song? According to the article, the lyrics in parentheses are not traditional but were composed in the 1960s. It would seem more interesting (and more legal) to give the traditional lyrics, perhaps in more than one variation, and remove the added text. 68.92.156.117 ( talk) 20:39, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
The lyrics given are those of Scarborough Fair/Canticle - the Simon & Garfunkel song - and,as such, would be subject to copyright. I suggest this section be removed. Because this is a FOLK song there are a large number of variant lyrics. See here:
http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/martin.carthy/songs/scarboroughfair.html. --
Panama1958 (
talk) 13:27, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
At the very least the parts in parenthesis should be removed. Panama1958 ( talk) 12:11, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
In the Commercial Versions section it reads:
"It is likely that both Coppard and Collins learned it from MacColl, who claimed to have collected it "in part" from a Scottish miner. However, according to Alan Lomax, MacColl's source was probably Cecil Sharp's One Hundred English Folk Songs, published in 1916."
There are all sorts of problems with this sentence.
There are several assertions and attributions that are not supported by the citations.
Alan Lomax is not mentioned at all. Cecil Sharp's "One hundred English folk songs" does not use the same words or (significantly) the same tune as MacColl.
The "who claimed to have collected it" is tendentious (ie POV) when used in a sentence in that way since it implies no further information was given. However, according to the cited page, MacColl's "claim" was not for a "Scottish miner", but specifically names his source as "Mark Anderson, retired lead miner of Middleton-in Teasdale, Yorkshire".
This needs to be sorted out. Ecadre ( talk) 22:34, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I consider the CD version of Joel Frederiksen's Phoenix Ensemble absolutely worth adding to that section... What exactly are the criteria for a recording to be mentioned in such a kind of listing?
-- 79.210.126.89 ( talk) 18:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)Noch ein Anderer
Removed false statement that the song is in Lang's "Man Hunt." I just watched the whole movie listening for it, it's not there.
DmitriTymoczko ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 01:07, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
But what is it about? Its not a love song, the singer clearly does not want his old lover back, as he sets a series of impossible tasks, and she equally does not want him back. Why ask someone to remember you to an old friend and set them impossible tasks, to tease them, to embarrass them? Its not a nice thing to do? It could be a "joke", like asking someone to buy a tin of tartan paint or a bubble for a spirit level, but the impossible tasks themselves are not inherently humorous? I know nothing about herbs, but I was interested that there maybe a sub plot, an affair, an abortion, something darker between the two former lovers that mean they have fallen out and maybe don't actually like each other...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Botus Flemming ( talk • contribs) 15:34, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
A lot of the sources cited for the song's history fail WP:SPS and WP:UGC. These need to be replaced by reliable works from reputable publishers, per WP:V, WP:RS and WP:NOR, especially since much of it is analysis/evaluation/interpretation/synthesis, e.g suppositions about who learned the song from whom, and via what means. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 21:03, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
The lyrics of Scarborough Fair as given in this article should read 'sea strand' rather than 'sea sand'. I don't have the knowledge to edit the piece. Perhaps someone else could do it.
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How about going further and removing those that aren't particularly historically significant (which would probably be pretty much everything after Simon and Garfunkel). TheScotch ( talk) 22:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
because I miss it in the List: the Version of the Mediæval Bæbes is not this Ballad? or aren't they famous enough to be listed? -- 62.216.207.150 ( talk) 14:44, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
How do you know it's "savoury sage, rosemary, and thyme," and not "savory, sage, rosemary, and thyme"? That is, the noun (an herb like the rest), instead of the adjective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.66.223 ( talk) 20:01, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Should the second stanza be included? Backreading this it seems like it used to be, but I can't find mention of why it isn't included anymore. It's the lyrics about her reply to him and the impossible tasks she sets, such as 'Tell him to plow me an acre of land// Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme,// between/betwix the sea-shore and the sea sand/strand// Then he'll be a true love of mine' and the following verses (Apologies, I only remember two of them, plowing with the lamb's horn//sow with one peppercorn, and reap with a sickle of leather//tie it all up with one peacock's feather') Of course the lyrics are only as I remember them, but previous comments make mention of them and it seems like they were included in this, as well as mention of the woman's reply, which again is absent from the listed lyrics.
2A02:A457:8691:1:E804:80AA:372:3B71 ( talk) 21:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
There are 30 historical recordings, mostly very rare, and old, available in the YouTube video called " The True Story of Scarborough Fair on YouTube". Also lots of intelligent commentary. The creator of the compilation is "The Folk Revival Project". You can find other videos he/they made, including "John Barleycorn", Joseph Taylor and "Gaelic Waulking Songs". Highly recommended for antiquarians like you. 95.146.20.115 ( talk) 09:03, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
The bit about Simon learning the song from Cathy neglects to point out that Simon was successfully sued for taking Cathy’s arrangement. (According to Simon, the money went to intermediaries, and Cathy saw none of it. Simon’s defense was that he didn’t know arrangements could be copyrighted.) ~~. TheScotch ( talk) 22:30, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
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An infobox was requested for the 1968
Simon and Garfunkel version ("Scarborough Fair/Canticle") at
Wikipedia:WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_articles/List_of_notable_songs/12.
Done
Goodbyekitty137 19:26, 02 Feburary 2010 (UTC)
References
The notes in the picture is not the scores to Scarborough Fair!
added the Simon and Garfunkel arrangment; its a little messed up though, I'd parreciate it if someone could fix it
Anyone have a source for the information on the rift between Simon and Carthy, and its ending in 2000? Thanks. -- Allen 00:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
As part of a medieval recreation group, I often hear people refer to Pasley Sage Rosemary and Thyme as a concoction suppose to induce an abortion, and recover from one. This leads to an obvious second message to the song. The concoction is also believed to be a contracptive, but the "once was a true love" bits suggests not in this case.
I have yet to have anyone fully substantiate this, and can find little internet information I'd consider reliable.
Salvia (sage): good after miscarriage or abortion. http://www.henriettesherbal.com/archives/best/1994/salvia.html
It's possible Royal Thyme (Mentha pulegium aka Pennyroyal, which includes known abortive compound pulegone) is infered, but I not good enough at reading old script to determine if this likely.
Google keeps bringing me to this site - http://www.bidstrup.com/abortion.htm . However it appears to be part of a site full of bias and opinion stated as facts.
I'd also heard the theory that the herbs are all abortifacients, that is substances that can be used to cause a miscarriage. I discussed it with a herbalist friend who is also a member of the Order of the Laurel in the
Society for Creative Anachronism, and she said that at most one of them is and one could be, but that the combination was no more likely to cause miscarriage than any other random set of four herbs. So I think it's a myth. --
Eric TF Bat 00:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I have a book of Cecil Sharp collected songs amongst which is a song called The Lovers Tasks, it is clearly an early version of this song and the song is also clearly about abortion. However, the herbs listed are different but sage is in there.
Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme are used in a bouquet garni. No connection with abortions. I've read/heard a number of versions of this song including the Cecil Sharp Lovers Tasks and NONE of them are about abortion. More to the point the herbs are different in at least this version: http://www.joe-offer.com/folkinfo/songs/20.html - (which also has a different tune) while this version has an entirely different line in the same place: http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4225 (A Cornish version) Panama1958 ( talk) 19:50, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
The verses do not belong here. Either a link to an external site, or a Wikisource reference, but not here. Goldfritha 23:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Indeed; i believe including full lyrics onto main pages violates copyright. I would advise the deletion of them,and adding a link to an external site on them. However, I'd rather hear a third opinion on the matter before any action if at all possible. Either confirmation or rejection.
Gowikiit 17:07, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
I am surprised that no-one has updated the main article to include a 'also seen in' reference to the British TV show 'Rosemary & Thyme.' It is obviously both a tribute and a link to the song.
Grandma Roses
Note, that Child includes some variants of The Elfin Knight which essentially are Scarborough Fair versions. Like with St. Stephen and Herod, the fact that the ballad continues to be known and sung doesn't in itself disqualify it from the 'popular ballads'.-- JoergenB 18:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
The passage with the list that itemizes what the herbs symbolize is random and unexplained. At the very least there should be a link to a page that explains these seemingly arbitrary assignments. Otherwise this interpretation should be removed. Atw13 06:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
There seems to be quite a bit of confusion as to the melody of this song. As previously commented, the score in the image is not the tune most know of as being the song, which is that sung in the media file. The trivia section claims the melody to be the same tune as that of "We Three Kings." The "We Three Kings" I know is only vaguely similar at best to the Scarborough Fair in the media file, and nothing like the melody in the image. Another trivia file states, rightly, that the song is in the Dorian mode (again, the familiar one), but the melody in the image is E minor, not E Dorian. It is not outlandish to think there may be more than one melody to this song, and it would be nice if someone more knowledgeable could address that issue. Atw13 06:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Why is there a Sarah Brightman discography box at the bottom of the page? This is to me completely out of place. Joeykelly ( talk) 02:44, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
If we're going to have lyrics at all here -- and assuming the article is a serious investigation of this old song itself, rather than an S&G puff piece -- we should see other versions, some radically different, e.g.:
— Xiong 熊 talk * 12:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
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About "parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme", I've always assumed that it was the singer remembering how the Fair smelled. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.203.4.38 ( talk) 21:49, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Nothing here seems very relevant and much of it lacks citations...
212.183.2.130 (
talk) 12:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Somewhere back in October, someone deleted a cited connection between this ballad and The Elfin Knight (see this diff). As this deletion was completely unexplained, I have restored that material. - JRBrown ( talk) 00:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
The "other artists" section is a mess. First, it's so long and rambling that a lot of utter trivia has made its way into it. Aside from that, if that many people have recorded the song, is there really a point to listing them? It's like a list of actors who have played Hamlet, or a list of books about George Washington. - Jason A. Quest ( talk) 02:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Originally played in 3/4 time. Simon and Garfunkel's rendition makes it a little difficult to obtain because of the over-lapping time signatures which starts with 3/4 then shifts between 12/8 and 9/8 and ends back in 3/4. The bass is playing 8th notes when it comes in earlier in the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.77.173.100 ( talk) 17:49, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Is it? Orphan Wiki 21:58, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
In the original version of the melody, what is the correct rhythm of the word "parsley"?? It is 2+1 or R+1+1 (where R means rest)?? Georgia guy ( talk) 17:14, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
I propose we delete the (s) and (her) from the text of the lyric, for three reasons:
Is there any good reason why Justin Hayward and Sarah Brightman should have their own sub-sections? Or why the Brightman version needs an infobox? There's nothing more significant about their versions over dozens of others. I'll be bold and relegate them to the status of "other artists", on the grounds of due weight. Ghmyrtle ( talk) 19:37, 27 October 2011 (UTC) PS: Though, frankly, the whole "other artists" section is so dismally full of trivia that it may be better to get rid of the whole section, other than a sentence saying something like: "The song has also been covered by many other musicians." Ghmyrtle ( talk) 19:42, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Aren't the lyrics given here from the Simon and Garfunkel song? According to the article, the lyrics in parentheses are not traditional but were composed in the 1960s. It would seem more interesting (and more legal) to give the traditional lyrics, perhaps in more than one variation, and remove the added text. 68.92.156.117 ( talk) 20:39, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
The lyrics given are those of Scarborough Fair/Canticle - the Simon & Garfunkel song - and,as such, would be subject to copyright. I suggest this section be removed. Because this is a FOLK song there are a large number of variant lyrics. See here:
http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/martin.carthy/songs/scarboroughfair.html. --
Panama1958 (
talk) 13:27, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
At the very least the parts in parenthesis should be removed. Panama1958 ( talk) 12:11, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
In the Commercial Versions section it reads:
"It is likely that both Coppard and Collins learned it from MacColl, who claimed to have collected it "in part" from a Scottish miner. However, according to Alan Lomax, MacColl's source was probably Cecil Sharp's One Hundred English Folk Songs, published in 1916."
There are all sorts of problems with this sentence.
There are several assertions and attributions that are not supported by the citations.
Alan Lomax is not mentioned at all. Cecil Sharp's "One hundred English folk songs" does not use the same words or (significantly) the same tune as MacColl.
The "who claimed to have collected it" is tendentious (ie POV) when used in a sentence in that way since it implies no further information was given. However, according to the cited page, MacColl's "claim" was not for a "Scottish miner", but specifically names his source as "Mark Anderson, retired lead miner of Middleton-in Teasdale, Yorkshire".
This needs to be sorted out. Ecadre ( talk) 22:34, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I consider the CD version of Joel Frederiksen's Phoenix Ensemble absolutely worth adding to that section... What exactly are the criteria for a recording to be mentioned in such a kind of listing?
-- 79.210.126.89 ( talk) 18:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)Noch ein Anderer
Removed false statement that the song is in Lang's "Man Hunt." I just watched the whole movie listening for it, it's not there.
DmitriTymoczko ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 01:07, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
But what is it about? Its not a love song, the singer clearly does not want his old lover back, as he sets a series of impossible tasks, and she equally does not want him back. Why ask someone to remember you to an old friend and set them impossible tasks, to tease them, to embarrass them? Its not a nice thing to do? It could be a "joke", like asking someone to buy a tin of tartan paint or a bubble for a spirit level, but the impossible tasks themselves are not inherently humorous? I know nothing about herbs, but I was interested that there maybe a sub plot, an affair, an abortion, something darker between the two former lovers that mean they have fallen out and maybe don't actually like each other...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Botus Flemming ( talk • contribs) 15:34, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
A lot of the sources cited for the song's history fail WP:SPS and WP:UGC. These need to be replaced by reliable works from reputable publishers, per WP:V, WP:RS and WP:NOR, especially since much of it is analysis/evaluation/interpretation/synthesis, e.g suppositions about who learned the song from whom, and via what means. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 21:03, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
The lyrics of Scarborough Fair as given in this article should read 'sea strand' rather than 'sea sand'. I don't have the knowledge to edit the piece. Perhaps someone else could do it.
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How about going further and removing those that aren't particularly historically significant (which would probably be pretty much everything after Simon and Garfunkel). TheScotch ( talk) 22:33, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
because I miss it in the List: the Version of the Mediæval Bæbes is not this Ballad? or aren't they famous enough to be listed? -- 62.216.207.150 ( talk) 14:44, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
How do you know it's "savoury sage, rosemary, and thyme," and not "savory, sage, rosemary, and thyme"? That is, the noun (an herb like the rest), instead of the adjective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.67.66.223 ( talk) 20:01, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Should the second stanza be included? Backreading this it seems like it used to be, but I can't find mention of why it isn't included anymore. It's the lyrics about her reply to him and the impossible tasks she sets, such as 'Tell him to plow me an acre of land// Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme,// between/betwix the sea-shore and the sea sand/strand// Then he'll be a true love of mine' and the following verses (Apologies, I only remember two of them, plowing with the lamb's horn//sow with one peppercorn, and reap with a sickle of leather//tie it all up with one peacock's feather') Of course the lyrics are only as I remember them, but previous comments make mention of them and it seems like they were included in this, as well as mention of the woman's reply, which again is absent from the listed lyrics.
2A02:A457:8691:1:E804:80AA:372:3B71 ( talk) 21:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
There are 30 historical recordings, mostly very rare, and old, available in the YouTube video called " The True Story of Scarborough Fair on YouTube". Also lots of intelligent commentary. The creator of the compilation is "The Folk Revival Project". You can find other videos he/they made, including "John Barleycorn", Joseph Taylor and "Gaelic Waulking Songs". Highly recommended for antiquarians like you. 95.146.20.115 ( talk) 09:03, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
The bit about Simon learning the song from Cathy neglects to point out that Simon was successfully sued for taking Cathy’s arrangement. (According to Simon, the money went to intermediaries, and Cathy saw none of it. Simon’s defense was that he didn’t know arrangements could be copyrighted.) ~~. TheScotch ( talk) 22:30, 24 March 2024 (UTC)