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Should the title be "Scandinavian noir" or "Nordic noir" ? Both seem in common usage but the latter is more alliterative. Any views? --
Mervyn (
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15:38, 15 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Clearly the term "noir" is applicable to several distinct cultures and media. This particular article needs to concentrate and expand on specifically Nordic themes. I suggest that the references to other material - however worthy - be removed or drastically reduced.
Darorcilmir (
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I have improved the first paragraph, but should the "social criticism" reference stay in what follows?
At least I think I have. I made a well-written one based on what I learnt from this article. I haven't actually read any Scandinavian noir.
But should the reference to "social criticism" stay in what follows? This is fiction. Fiction requires contrast. A major contrast in this genre is between the still and bland Scandinavian surface and the horrible crimes that some people commit. What criticism is actually being made? Are the authors saying that there should be more openness in Scandinavia, more recognition of social problems, more effort to tackle crimes of hatred and violence, and an end to the idea that Scandinavia is exceptionally calm and peaceful? If so, the article should say so and give some more details. On the other hand, perhaps the genre is principally entertainment.
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Nordic noir – Both terms are in common usage but the alliterative Nordic noir seems both more common and more logical as it covers the whole region. No counter arguments to the move have been presented since the issue was raised more than two years ago and it seems a mere coincidence that Scandinavian noir was originally chosen as the article name.
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15:19, 19 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Support Almost double the google hits for Nordic noir (and my search for Scandinavian noir was actually dominated by references to Nordic noir)...
CJ [a Kiwi] inOz 10:06, 25 May 2018 (UTC)reply
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Should the title be "Scandinavian noir" or "Nordic noir" ? Both seem in common usage but the latter is more alliterative. Any views? --
Mervyn (
talk)
15:38, 15 April 2016 (UTC)reply
Clearly the term "noir" is applicable to several distinct cultures and media. This particular article needs to concentrate and expand on specifically Nordic themes. I suggest that the references to other material - however worthy - be removed or drastically reduced.
Darorcilmir (
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I have improved the first paragraph, but should the "social criticism" reference stay in what follows?
At least I think I have. I made a well-written one based on what I learnt from this article. I haven't actually read any Scandinavian noir.
But should the reference to "social criticism" stay in what follows? This is fiction. Fiction requires contrast. A major contrast in this genre is between the still and bland Scandinavian surface and the horrible crimes that some people commit. What criticism is actually being made? Are the authors saying that there should be more openness in Scandinavia, more recognition of social problems, more effort to tackle crimes of hatred and violence, and an end to the idea that Scandinavia is exceptionally calm and peaceful? If so, the article should say so and give some more details. On the other hand, perhaps the genre is principally entertainment.
Wecwecppp (
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10:57, 15 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Requested move 19 May 2018
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Scandinavian noir →
Nordic noir – Both terms are in common usage but the alliterative Nordic noir seems both more common and more logical as it covers the whole region. No counter arguments to the move have been presented since the issue was raised more than two years ago and it seems a mere coincidence that Scandinavian noir was originally chosen as the article name.
Batmacumba (
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15:19, 19 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Support Almost double the google hits for Nordic noir (and my search for Scandinavian noir was actually dominated by references to Nordic noir)...
CJ [a Kiwi] inOz 10:06, 25 May 2018 (UTC)reply
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