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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Saudi Arabian people's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Britannica":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:32, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 ( talk) 12:35, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Saudi Arabian people →
Saudis – "Saudis" is the only
WP:COMMONNAME for these people, clearly per
Google Ngram, other terms like "Saudi Arabians" are extremely rare. "Saudis" is an unambiguous and plural demonym. "Saudis" never explicitly means the
House of Saud, because English uses the "House of Saud", "Al Saud", or the "Sauds" for that royal family. "Saudis" correlates with their original Arabic-language national self-identification (سعوديون, saʿūdiyyūn). And "Saudis" is more
WP:CONCISE than "Saudi Arabians" or "Saudi Arabian people". Per
WP:ETHNICGROUP#Ethnic groups. The last part of the current title ("[...] people") is redundant per
Koreans,
Kurds,
Pashtuns,
Tajiks,
Punjabis,
Germans,
Swedes,
Russians,
Serbians, and many other titles of similar articles. --Relisted.
Steel1943 (
talk) 20:55, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Khestwol (
talk) 07:58, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
thousands of Saudis in nontraditional jobs. In addition, tens of thousands of Saudi students have studied abroad," Greg Kaye 11:55, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
excessively brief? Google Books search gets about 362,000 results for "Saudis", but only about 4,360 results for "Saudi Arabian people" and about 19,000 results for "Saudi Arabians". Clearly, "Saudi Arabian people" is uncommon, and not an encyclopedic title, and unsuitable per Wikipedia's guidelines. "Saudi Arabian people"'s construction appears almost as odd as referring to Swedes as "Swedish Scandinavians". Khestwol ( talk) 17:41, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Google books results are not reliable, and massively biased to repeated mentions over introductions or titling uses. When I look at actual sources, I see that in introductions of the subject of the people, the word Saudi is always used in conjunction with "people" or some form of that word. I Oppose dropping "people", and don't object to dropping "Arabian" if it is agreed that locally it is not used and inaccurate. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 23:17, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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This problem is alluded to in the discussion above. What were the people called before the House of Saud assumed power? It is weird that the whole nation derives its demonym from the ruling family. It is as if the English all came to be called "Windsors." Sylvain1972 ( talk) 02:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
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I'm sure there are more than 23 Saudis 2001:56A:F0E4:6800:F020:8777:6B7A:3276 ( talk) 21:57, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
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I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Saudi Arabian people's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Britannica":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 23:32, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Belizean people which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 13:00, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 ( talk) 12:35, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Saudi Arabian people →
Saudis – "Saudis" is the only
WP:COMMONNAME for these people, clearly per
Google Ngram, other terms like "Saudi Arabians" are extremely rare. "Saudis" is an unambiguous and plural demonym. "Saudis" never explicitly means the
House of Saud, because English uses the "House of Saud", "Al Saud", or the "Sauds" for that royal family. "Saudis" correlates with their original Arabic-language national self-identification (سعوديون, saʿūdiyyūn). And "Saudis" is more
WP:CONCISE than "Saudi Arabians" or "Saudi Arabian people". Per
WP:ETHNICGROUP#Ethnic groups. The last part of the current title ("[...] people") is redundant per
Koreans,
Kurds,
Pashtuns,
Tajiks,
Punjabis,
Germans,
Swedes,
Russians,
Serbians, and many other titles of similar articles. --Relisted.
Steel1943 (
talk) 20:55, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Khestwol (
talk) 07:58, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
thousands of Saudis in nontraditional jobs. In addition, tens of thousands of Saudi students have studied abroad," Greg Kaye 11:55, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
excessively brief? Google Books search gets about 362,000 results for "Saudis", but only about 4,360 results for "Saudi Arabian people" and about 19,000 results for "Saudi Arabians". Clearly, "Saudi Arabian people" is uncommon, and not an encyclopedic title, and unsuitable per Wikipedia's guidelines. "Saudi Arabian people"'s construction appears almost as odd as referring to Swedes as "Swedish Scandinavians". Khestwol ( talk) 17:41, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Google books results are not reliable, and massively biased to repeated mentions over introductions or titling uses. When I look at actual sources, I see that in introductions of the subject of the people, the word Saudi is always used in conjunction with "people" or some form of that word. I Oppose dropping "people", and don't object to dropping "Arabian" if it is agreed that locally it is not used and inaccurate. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 23:17, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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This problem is alluded to in the discussion above. What were the people called before the House of Saud assumed power? It is weird that the whole nation derives its demonym from the ruling family. It is as if the English all came to be called "Windsors." Sylvain1972 ( talk) 02:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
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I'm sure there are more than 23 Saudis 2001:56A:F0E4:6800:F020:8777:6B7A:3276 ( talk) 21:57, 2 July 2022 (UTC)