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Anglo-Araneophilus~enwiki (
talk) 00:40, 19 March 2016 (UTC)In 26th of March dozens as you can see in the videos protested against Saudis & there war crimes [6] [7]
Personal comments:
@ YemArabSf: we could create article about protest. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 11:39, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
In "The Independent" sayd (Officially 300 are said to have died but reliable sources have told The Independent the figure is at least 10 times higher. ") but Ahmed al-Assiri told AFP that "375 (civilians) were killed and injured," [1] -- Mr. Ibrahem ( talk) 14:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Countries that are "supporting" one side of this conflict should be left out of this section. This poorly sourced claims do not imply to real military involvement for which this section was designed, as in all other conflicts. Tritomex ( talk) 10:09, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
Note (a) in the infobox says up to 3,000 Saudis had been killed according to The Independent, but the source doesn't say that at all. -- Green C 23:18, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Assuming that this is true, Wikipedia has room for the name of the country to be spelled out completely. Kortoso ( talk) 16:48, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Tag for page splitting needs due consideration. Condensing or removing heading/sub-heading is inappropriate. Therefore splitting content into sub-articles appears to be the best option. Nannadeem ( talk) 19:14, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
I created a page called Timeline of the Yemeni Civil War (2015-present). Please add to it! I did this so a more concise and readable timeline of the war is available on the web, because none seems to exist. Problems with this page include: is it is hard to know the year in which events occurred; it is too long; the Saudi intervention is not the only part of the war. But many aspects of this article can transfer over to the other page. PBP ( talk) 02:12, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
The operation was launched to oust ex President Saleh and the Houthis allied with him. AQAP is not al-Houthis co-beligrent. Please dont confuse this military operation with the with the Yemeni Civil War (2015–present). Mr.User200 ( talk) 18:42, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Over the last few months, myself and other users have made sourced edits to the main body of the article and the infobox regarding AQAP. Virtually every time, these edits are reverted within 3 days without explanation. There is no mention currently anywhere in the article of Arab coalition activity against AQAP, despite dozens of credible, mainstream sources stating that the UAE in particular (but also Saudi Arabia) has intervened in Yemen against AQAP during the Yakla raid and the Battle of Al Mukalla (2016). It is evident to me that some users are pushing a narrative that the states involved in this intervention are at best neutral to AQAP, and at worst, actively in league with AQAP, by scrubbing sourced material that relates to this topic. While this narrative have had some accuracy prior to the start of Arab coalition activity against AQAP, it no longer does.
Here are just a few sources: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/25/world/middleeast/yemeni-troops-backed-by-united-arab-emirates-take-city-from-al-qaeda.htm http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/gulf-coalition-operations-against-aqap-in-yemen http://www.dw.com/en/saudi-led-coalition-hits-al-qaeda-training-camp-in-yemen/a-19134916 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-emirates-idUSKCN0ZE1EA http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/us-raid-yemen/ http://www.businessinsider.com/r-small-us-military-team-in-yemen-to-aid-uae-push-on-al-qaeda-2016-5?IR=T http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/us-middle-east-victory-al-qaeda-213864 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-usa-yemen-exclusive-idUSKCN0XC19A http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/uae-troops-free-british-hostage-al-qaeda-yemen-150823095149287.html http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/saudi-coalition-bombs-al-qaeda-training-camp-yemen-746829673 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/6/us-military-in-yemen-supporting-uae-saudi-arabia-i/
One can try to make the case that this is a separate, UAE-led intervention in Yemen. That is something that ought to be discussed. Regardless, censoring sourced information is not the way to go.-- Jay942942 ( talk) 22:47, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
I have added the same editing restrictions ( 1RR) as in the Yemeni Civil War (2015–present). (Please note that any reverts made before this date are exempted.) El_C 06:06, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The Daily Mail, PressTV, al-Masdar News, RT.Com, FarsNews ... that's basically like a who's who of unreliable, crappy sources. And adding shitty sources to an article DOES NOT "provide balance", it just makes the article shitty. Please read WP:RS and WP:NPOV again. Volunteer Marek ( talk) 06:15, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
AHeneen, Volunteer Marek has a point. Indeed, these are sources that are, at best, borderline reliable and whose use on Wikipedia is ordinarily highly limited. El_C 06:31, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
"RT" Here we go again. Still waiting for a good reasoning behind this claim. At that point you would have to also label most Western mainstream media sources unreliable as well. If you want to talk about shit sources then you don't have to look outside of the West, why do you think trust in the media is only getting lower and lower, along with its viewership? The same supposedly "reliable" Western media that has recently been publishing articles saying that PewDiePie is a Neo Nazi because he made one joke in one of his videos that could be considered anti-Semitic. — Nikolai Romanov ( talk) 00:38, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Underneath the war death tally, it says "10,000+ Yemeni civilians killed by Saudi-led airstrikes". However, the source it links to does not at all say it was from Saudi Arabian airstrikes, but that just the total death toll was this amount. It could have been by the terrorist groups there, bandits or the general ensuing chaos, and there's no direct evidence presented that it was all by Saudi Arabian airstrikes. This is incredibly misleading and factually wrong, so I'm going to be changing it. A fair and unbiased account of the war needs to be taken in to account. While we can certainly blame many of the civilian deaths on Saudi Arabia, claiming all 10,000 deaths were by Saudi Arabia is flat-out ridiculous, especially when the U.N. source cited does not say that.
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There seems to be a huge confusion and overlapping between this article and Yemeni Civil War (2015–present) article. General clean up and removing overriding information is necessary. This article is way too long. Wikiemirati ( talk) 22:46, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that the blockade warrants it's own page by now. Or an expanded top-level subsection of this article, but seeing how the article is already quite bloated i don't see how this can ever happen. Karl.i.biased ( talk) 12:38, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
What qualifies the US and Uk as "supporters" of the Saudi coalition and not members? Egaoblai ( talk) 20:22, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Can we have a discussion about this? Seeing DPRK of all people in the infobox feels like a joke from a 50-s cartoon propaganda with all the bad guys allied to each other. I have searched for sources but came up with nothing. The infobox mention was sourced by a single passage in a single article on huffpost, a website I don't believe should be allowed on wikipedia anyway. But if it was an article or something like that, with some resemblence of a journalistic investigation or, god forbid, proof, it might have been okay. This, however, doesn't appear to be either of these two things. Karl.i.biased ( talk) 07:31, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
It seems to me any colonel or other ranking official is added into the "Commanders and Leaders" section of the infobox. Shouldn't the infobox only involve Commanders or head of state involved in this conflict instead of adding every colonel or major in the army there, most of whom are known only because they are killed? Would love fellow wikipedians idea on this issue. Wikiemirati ( talk) 22:42, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
I am opening this discussion because of a series of reverts made by User:Mr.User200 on insisting of adding 1,800 Latin American Mercenaries as part of the belligerents United Arab Emirates forces troop number. Academi is already listed as co-belligerents in the infobox as 'other state opponents'. Under my understanding Academi mercenaries are paid troops which belong to the infamous Blackwater private military company (currently called Academi). Under the source used by Mr.User200 the troops are being paid for by the United Arab Emirates. There is no source from the UAE military or otherwise which states that the paid mercenaries are participating as part of the UAE troop strength or if they are using UAE military equipment or flying UAE flag colors. Academi has participated in Iraq War before but were not considered part of a US military troop strength. Academi is a private military company and does fall under a country's military. Adding it on United Arab Emirates Armed Forces creates a confusion on the current participating Emirati troop strength or troop lost. The mercenaries as cited on the source used by Mr.User200 are from South America, not Emirati. The fact that UAE is paying them does not make them Emirati troops. Mr.User200 keeps adding them as part of UAE strength on the infobox duplicating the coalition belligerent troop strength which already lists academi security contractors. Mr.User200, I urge you to please discuss the reason why you keep on insisting on adding those troops to the UAE military troop strength Wikiemirati ( talk) 03:25, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
It seems that no soldiers have been sent : Mankeur Ndiay, Senegalese Foreign Minister said in 2017 [2] :
Je peux dire aujourd’hui que le Sénégal n’a aucun soldat au Yémen. Le Sénégal n’a jamais envoyé de soldat au Yémen (Senegal never sent soldiers to Yemen.). Le Sénégal avait exprimé la volonté, si c’était nécessaire, de déployer 2 100 hommes au Yémen. Mais les conditions ont changé, et le Sénégal n’a, actuellement, aucun homme sur le terrain. (... and Senegal has, presently, no men on the field.)
-- Le Petit Chat ( talk) 15:15, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
@ Chilicheese22 and NuclearWizard: I think we should add AQAP as coalition's opponent. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 15:58, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Please stop reverting the Sourced Data displayed at the Battlebox. More than one (The Independent - March 2016 and Aljazeera - May 2018) International Mainstream media have reported KSA losses in Yemen passing the 1,000 KIA. So unless that number is updated or changes stop reverting the information displayed there.
The same for the articles of Yemeni Civil War (2015–present) and the Saudi–Yemeni border conflict (2015–present).
A lot of information have been displayed with photos about killed KSA soldiers and matériel lost. So the 1,00 number is not far from reality. Mr.User200 ( talk) 15:36, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Just moved the Arab Coalition claim to the Note bottom of the Battlebox. Arab Coalition number of 11,000 surpasses the total killed according to the CFR and the UN. So moved alongside those other numbers for a better comprehension of the reader. Is misleading to have contradicting numbers here, especially one that encapsulate another. Until now, no consensus was made in the Yemen Civil War talk page regarding State media role. So i'm just moving this claim to the article itself (At the 2017 timeline) and the bottom of the Battlebox. Mr.User200 ( talk) 12:23, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
The Arab coalition is not a state media. Moreover the CFR and UN numbers only concern civilians mostly. It is very realistic that Houthis and their allies have lost 11.000 fighters since the war began given the length of the civil war, firepower of the Arab coalition and Yemeni army and the estimated number of Houthi fighters (200.000) in total.--
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Using that logic the Al-Jazeera and The Independent link should not be included either as those are unrealistic numbers and empty claims. Examples "A source told us that the number is 10 times higher" (only claim in that article to make the casualties 3000+ in 12 months time (!), or Al-Jazeera not even mentioning which state media has admitted to losing 1000 Saudi Arabian soldiers. Surely not the Saudi Arabian state media.-- OxfordLaw ( talk) 20:34, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
I have made a request for the page to be protected. See Wikipedia:Requests for page protection to see where this goes. I felt this needed outside input. CMV512 ( talk) 21:10, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
While the current article is too large, a title of "Saudi Arabia war crimes" is considered as the notabale subject. In other words, I suggest that the part of " Reports of war crimes" move to a new article by the name of Saudi Arabia war crimes, knowing that reliable sources support it such as 1; 2; 3; 4 and 5. Saff V. ( talk) 11:46, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for creating Destruction of Yemeni cultural heritage by Saudi-led coalition, Oranjelo100!
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Could you restore it? I think it should have its own article. Oranjelo100 ( talk) 14:44, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
I will copy paste some links to build a total tally of Saudi civilians killed by Yemeni Army/Houthi fire during the War.
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New report for the UN Human Rights Council saying that both sides may have committed war crimes, calling on the international community to stop "providing arms that could be used in the conflict in Yemen", and more. (Sources: Telegraph, Guardian, BBC, CNN, NYT). Should this be included? -- Bangalamania ( talk) 23:02, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Over the last few months, I and a Bruneian IP editor have been involved in a low-level edit war, Where he insists, without reliable sources, that Indonesia and NATO have been fighting the Houthis in Yemen. It is known that NATO members such as the United States and the United Kingdom have aided the Saudi Coalition [1] [2], But as far as i know, NATO has not officially intervened in Yemen, Nor has Indonesia, And i did not make a talk page section because the WP:BURDEN lay on him. However, Since he has not made any topic on the talk page to explain his edits in detail, I will initiate WP:BRD.
This all began in last August, When i undertook a
small project to add sources to the countries that supported the coalition, and remove the countries where i couldn't find any. A few hours later, this IP re-added Indonesia (
[39]), and since he had no sources i reverted him.(
[40]). When he persisted (
[41]), I decided to add a {{cn}} tag, and waited for him to add a citation(
[42]).
A week passed, And on 16 August Simonm223 decided to remove the links since there were no references. ( [43]) This seemed fine to me, But the next day the IP editor returned to put NATO as supporting the Saudi Coalition.( [44]) Wikaviani then began his own small edit war. ( [45], [46]) Keep in mind that he was still not adding any sources despite being told to. After this, His unsourced edits started being reverted by multiple users,( [47], [48], [49], [50], [51], [52]).
After a month of back-and-forth removal, he finally gave a source from an unverified twitter account ( [53]), which was quickly removed by a bot. This source ( https://twitter.com/natovshouthis/status/1038628178380509185 ) is not allowed, as it is unduly self-serving (Anthem of Indonesia presented alongside this info), and it's an unverified account with less than a hundred followers. I would also like to clarify that i have been editing from IP:217.100.32.162, And that my recent edits ( [54], [55], [56]) are a borderline WP:3RR violation, But i promise my edits have been in good faith.
If this IP editor ever wants to discuss this matter, I would gladly do so, But until then i will remove the unsourced claims he has been persistently added. Koopinator ( talk) 12:55, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
I suggest adding this https://m.dw.com/en/new-saudi-airstrike-hits-bus-carrying-civilians-in-yemen/a-45877705 SharabSalam ( talk) 06:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
I'm glad that both of you worked together to include this piece of information. Academic Challenger ( talk) 22:22, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
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There is an On January 2018" that should be "In January 2018" that when you get inti ediut mode and click on it for some reason goes to a position in January and will not correct. Can you see if you have the same problem and fix it. Thank you. 2605:E000:9149:8300:24E3:71B8:1306:273A ( talk)
The article can be splited into two articles since it's about two operations. 1-Operation Decisive Storm. 2-Operation Restoring Hope. SharabSalam ( talk) 23:47, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Onetwothreeip has removed a lot of sourced contents from the infobox without giving a valid reason. He/She removed countries that are supporting Saudi-led war against Yemen. It's almost impossible to explain why you would remove France for example these news are just one day ago. I would like to know what's the reason for this removal? -- SharabSalam ( talk) 09:58, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Sjö The one who added the "silly" addition is you! see. ALL of the informations there are supported by sources and this seems like whitewashing and why arent you in the talk page instead of reverting? This edit will make me remove the alleged support section in the infobox-- SharabSalam ( talk) 20:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
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Anglo-Araneophilus~enwiki (
talk) 00:40, 19 March 2016 (UTC)In 26th of March dozens as you can see in the videos protested against Saudis & there war crimes [6] [7]
Personal comments:
@ YemArabSf: we could create article about protest. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 11:39, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
In "The Independent" sayd (Officially 300 are said to have died but reliable sources have told The Independent the figure is at least 10 times higher. ") but Ahmed al-Assiri told AFP that "375 (civilians) were killed and injured," [1] -- Mr. Ibrahem ( talk) 14:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Countries that are "supporting" one side of this conflict should be left out of this section. This poorly sourced claims do not imply to real military involvement for which this section was designed, as in all other conflicts. Tritomex ( talk) 10:09, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
Note (a) in the infobox says up to 3,000 Saudis had been killed according to The Independent, but the source doesn't say that at all. -- Green C 23:18, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
Assuming that this is true, Wikipedia has room for the name of the country to be spelled out completely. Kortoso ( talk) 16:48, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
Tag for page splitting needs due consideration. Condensing or removing heading/sub-heading is inappropriate. Therefore splitting content into sub-articles appears to be the best option. Nannadeem ( talk) 19:14, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
I created a page called Timeline of the Yemeni Civil War (2015-present). Please add to it! I did this so a more concise and readable timeline of the war is available on the web, because none seems to exist. Problems with this page include: is it is hard to know the year in which events occurred; it is too long; the Saudi intervention is not the only part of the war. But many aspects of this article can transfer over to the other page. PBP ( talk) 02:12, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
The operation was launched to oust ex President Saleh and the Houthis allied with him. AQAP is not al-Houthis co-beligrent. Please dont confuse this military operation with the with the Yemeni Civil War (2015–present). Mr.User200 ( talk) 18:42, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Over the last few months, myself and other users have made sourced edits to the main body of the article and the infobox regarding AQAP. Virtually every time, these edits are reverted within 3 days without explanation. There is no mention currently anywhere in the article of Arab coalition activity against AQAP, despite dozens of credible, mainstream sources stating that the UAE in particular (but also Saudi Arabia) has intervened in Yemen against AQAP during the Yakla raid and the Battle of Al Mukalla (2016). It is evident to me that some users are pushing a narrative that the states involved in this intervention are at best neutral to AQAP, and at worst, actively in league with AQAP, by scrubbing sourced material that relates to this topic. While this narrative have had some accuracy prior to the start of Arab coalition activity against AQAP, it no longer does.
Here are just a few sources: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/25/world/middleeast/yemeni-troops-backed-by-united-arab-emirates-take-city-from-al-qaeda.htm http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/gulf-coalition-operations-against-aqap-in-yemen http://www.dw.com/en/saudi-led-coalition-hits-al-qaeda-training-camp-in-yemen/a-19134916 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-emirates-idUSKCN0ZE1EA http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/us-raid-yemen/ http://www.businessinsider.com/r-small-us-military-team-in-yemen-to-aid-uae-push-on-al-qaeda-2016-5?IR=T http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/us-middle-east-victory-al-qaeda-213864 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-usa-yemen-exclusive-idUSKCN0XC19A http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/uae-troops-free-british-hostage-al-qaeda-yemen-150823095149287.html http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/saudi-coalition-bombs-al-qaeda-training-camp-yemen-746829673 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/6/us-military-in-yemen-supporting-uae-saudi-arabia-i/
One can try to make the case that this is a separate, UAE-led intervention in Yemen. That is something that ought to be discussed. Regardless, censoring sourced information is not the way to go.-- Jay942942 ( talk) 22:47, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
I have added the same editing restrictions ( 1RR) as in the Yemeni Civil War (2015–present). (Please note that any reverts made before this date are exempted.) El_C 06:06, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
The Daily Mail, PressTV, al-Masdar News, RT.Com, FarsNews ... that's basically like a who's who of unreliable, crappy sources. And adding shitty sources to an article DOES NOT "provide balance", it just makes the article shitty. Please read WP:RS and WP:NPOV again. Volunteer Marek ( talk) 06:15, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
AHeneen, Volunteer Marek has a point. Indeed, these are sources that are, at best, borderline reliable and whose use on Wikipedia is ordinarily highly limited. El_C 06:31, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
"RT" Here we go again. Still waiting for a good reasoning behind this claim. At that point you would have to also label most Western mainstream media sources unreliable as well. If you want to talk about shit sources then you don't have to look outside of the West, why do you think trust in the media is only getting lower and lower, along with its viewership? The same supposedly "reliable" Western media that has recently been publishing articles saying that PewDiePie is a Neo Nazi because he made one joke in one of his videos that could be considered anti-Semitic. — Nikolai Romanov ( talk) 00:38, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Underneath the war death tally, it says "10,000+ Yemeni civilians killed by Saudi-led airstrikes". However, the source it links to does not at all say it was from Saudi Arabian airstrikes, but that just the total death toll was this amount. It could have been by the terrorist groups there, bandits or the general ensuing chaos, and there's no direct evidence presented that it was all by Saudi Arabian airstrikes. This is incredibly misleading and factually wrong, so I'm going to be changing it. A fair and unbiased account of the war needs to be taken in to account. While we can certainly blame many of the civilian deaths on Saudi Arabia, claiming all 10,000 deaths were by Saudi Arabia is flat-out ridiculous, especially when the U.N. source cited does not say that.
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There seems to be a huge confusion and overlapping between this article and Yemeni Civil War (2015–present) article. General clean up and removing overriding information is necessary. This article is way too long. Wikiemirati ( talk) 22:46, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
I am pretty sure that the blockade warrants it's own page by now. Or an expanded top-level subsection of this article, but seeing how the article is already quite bloated i don't see how this can ever happen. Karl.i.biased ( talk) 12:38, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
What qualifies the US and Uk as "supporters" of the Saudi coalition and not members? Egaoblai ( talk) 20:22, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Can we have a discussion about this? Seeing DPRK of all people in the infobox feels like a joke from a 50-s cartoon propaganda with all the bad guys allied to each other. I have searched for sources but came up with nothing. The infobox mention was sourced by a single passage in a single article on huffpost, a website I don't believe should be allowed on wikipedia anyway. But if it was an article or something like that, with some resemblence of a journalistic investigation or, god forbid, proof, it might have been okay. This, however, doesn't appear to be either of these two things. Karl.i.biased ( talk) 07:31, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
It seems to me any colonel or other ranking official is added into the "Commanders and Leaders" section of the infobox. Shouldn't the infobox only involve Commanders or head of state involved in this conflict instead of adding every colonel or major in the army there, most of whom are known only because they are killed? Would love fellow wikipedians idea on this issue. Wikiemirati ( talk) 22:42, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
I am opening this discussion because of a series of reverts made by User:Mr.User200 on insisting of adding 1,800 Latin American Mercenaries as part of the belligerents United Arab Emirates forces troop number. Academi is already listed as co-belligerents in the infobox as 'other state opponents'. Under my understanding Academi mercenaries are paid troops which belong to the infamous Blackwater private military company (currently called Academi). Under the source used by Mr.User200 the troops are being paid for by the United Arab Emirates. There is no source from the UAE military or otherwise which states that the paid mercenaries are participating as part of the UAE troop strength or if they are using UAE military equipment or flying UAE flag colors. Academi has participated in Iraq War before but were not considered part of a US military troop strength. Academi is a private military company and does fall under a country's military. Adding it on United Arab Emirates Armed Forces creates a confusion on the current participating Emirati troop strength or troop lost. The mercenaries as cited on the source used by Mr.User200 are from South America, not Emirati. The fact that UAE is paying them does not make them Emirati troops. Mr.User200 keeps adding them as part of UAE strength on the infobox duplicating the coalition belligerent troop strength which already lists academi security contractors. Mr.User200, I urge you to please discuss the reason why you keep on insisting on adding those troops to the UAE military troop strength Wikiemirati ( talk) 03:25, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
It seems that no soldiers have been sent : Mankeur Ndiay, Senegalese Foreign Minister said in 2017 [2] :
Je peux dire aujourd’hui que le Sénégal n’a aucun soldat au Yémen. Le Sénégal n’a jamais envoyé de soldat au Yémen (Senegal never sent soldiers to Yemen.). Le Sénégal avait exprimé la volonté, si c’était nécessaire, de déployer 2 100 hommes au Yémen. Mais les conditions ont changé, et le Sénégal n’a, actuellement, aucun homme sur le terrain. (... and Senegal has, presently, no men on the field.)
-- Le Petit Chat ( talk) 15:15, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
@ Chilicheese22 and NuclearWizard: I think we should add AQAP as coalition's opponent. -- Panam2014 ( talk) 15:58, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Please stop reverting the Sourced Data displayed at the Battlebox. More than one (The Independent - March 2016 and Aljazeera - May 2018) International Mainstream media have reported KSA losses in Yemen passing the 1,000 KIA. So unless that number is updated or changes stop reverting the information displayed there.
The same for the articles of Yemeni Civil War (2015–present) and the Saudi–Yemeni border conflict (2015–present).
A lot of information have been displayed with photos about killed KSA soldiers and matériel lost. So the 1,00 number is not far from reality. Mr.User200 ( talk) 15:36, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
Just moved the Arab Coalition claim to the Note bottom of the Battlebox. Arab Coalition number of 11,000 surpasses the total killed according to the CFR and the UN. So moved alongside those other numbers for a better comprehension of the reader. Is misleading to have contradicting numbers here, especially one that encapsulate another. Until now, no consensus was made in the Yemen Civil War talk page regarding State media role. So i'm just moving this claim to the article itself (At the 2017 timeline) and the bottom of the Battlebox. Mr.User200 ( talk) 12:23, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
The Arab coalition is not a state media. Moreover the CFR and UN numbers only concern civilians mostly. It is very realistic that Houthis and their allies have lost 11.000 fighters since the war began given the length of the civil war, firepower of the Arab coalition and Yemeni army and the estimated number of Houthi fighters (200.000) in total.--
OxfordLaw (
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Using that logic the Al-Jazeera and The Independent link should not be included either as those are unrealistic numbers and empty claims. Examples "A source told us that the number is 10 times higher" (only claim in that article to make the casualties 3000+ in 12 months time (!), or Al-Jazeera not even mentioning which state media has admitted to losing 1000 Saudi Arabian soldiers. Surely not the Saudi Arabian state media.-- OxfordLaw ( talk) 20:34, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
I have made a request for the page to be protected. See Wikipedia:Requests for page protection to see where this goes. I felt this needed outside input. CMV512 ( talk) 21:10, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
While the current article is too large, a title of "Saudi Arabia war crimes" is considered as the notabale subject. In other words, I suggest that the part of " Reports of war crimes" move to a new article by the name of Saudi Arabia war crimes, knowing that reliable sources support it such as 1; 2; 3; 4 and 5. Saff V. ( talk) 11:46, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for creating Destruction of Yemeni cultural heritage by Saudi-led coalition, Oranjelo100!
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Could you restore it? I think it should have its own article. Oranjelo100 ( talk) 14:44, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
I will copy paste some links to build a total tally of Saudi civilians killed by Yemeni Army/Houthi fire during the War.
2 killed (05 May 2015)
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4 killed (07 May 2015)
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3 killed (Could be civilians) (5 May 2015)
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1 killed (02 August 2015)
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2 killed (08 November)
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3 killed (20 Dec 2015)
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3 killed (01 Jan 2016)
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Saudi Civilian Losses:
3 killed (5 May 2015)
[32] 4 killed (7 May 2015)
[33] 2 killed (24 May 2015)
[34] 1 killed (2 August 2015)
[35] 2 killed (8 November 2015)
[36] 3 killed (20 Dec 2015)
[37] 3 killed (1 Jan 2016)
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New report for the UN Human Rights Council saying that both sides may have committed war crimes, calling on the international community to stop "providing arms that could be used in the conflict in Yemen", and more. (Sources: Telegraph, Guardian, BBC, CNN, NYT). Should this be included? -- Bangalamania ( talk) 23:02, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Over the last few months, I and a Bruneian IP editor have been involved in a low-level edit war, Where he insists, without reliable sources, that Indonesia and NATO have been fighting the Houthis in Yemen. It is known that NATO members such as the United States and the United Kingdom have aided the Saudi Coalition [1] [2], But as far as i know, NATO has not officially intervened in Yemen, Nor has Indonesia, And i did not make a talk page section because the WP:BURDEN lay on him. However, Since he has not made any topic on the talk page to explain his edits in detail, I will initiate WP:BRD.
This all began in last August, When i undertook a
small project to add sources to the countries that supported the coalition, and remove the countries where i couldn't find any. A few hours later, this IP re-added Indonesia (
[39]), and since he had no sources i reverted him.(
[40]). When he persisted (
[41]), I decided to add a {{cn}} tag, and waited for him to add a citation(
[42]).
A week passed, And on 16 August Simonm223 decided to remove the links since there were no references. ( [43]) This seemed fine to me, But the next day the IP editor returned to put NATO as supporting the Saudi Coalition.( [44]) Wikaviani then began his own small edit war. ( [45], [46]) Keep in mind that he was still not adding any sources despite being told to. After this, His unsourced edits started being reverted by multiple users,( [47], [48], [49], [50], [51], [52]).
After a month of back-and-forth removal, he finally gave a source from an unverified twitter account ( [53]), which was quickly removed by a bot. This source ( https://twitter.com/natovshouthis/status/1038628178380509185 ) is not allowed, as it is unduly self-serving (Anthem of Indonesia presented alongside this info), and it's an unverified account with less than a hundred followers. I would also like to clarify that i have been editing from IP:217.100.32.162, And that my recent edits ( [54], [55], [56]) are a borderline WP:3RR violation, But i promise my edits have been in good faith.
If this IP editor ever wants to discuss this matter, I would gladly do so, But until then i will remove the unsourced claims he has been persistently added. Koopinator ( talk) 12:55, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
I suggest adding this https://m.dw.com/en/new-saudi-airstrike-hits-bus-carrying-civilians-in-yemen/a-45877705 SharabSalam ( talk) 06:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
I'm glad that both of you worked together to include this piece of information. Academic Challenger ( talk) 22:22, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
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There is an On January 2018" that should be "In January 2018" that when you get inti ediut mode and click on it for some reason goes to a position in January and will not correct. Can you see if you have the same problem and fix it. Thank you. 2605:E000:9149:8300:24E3:71B8:1306:273A ( talk)
The article can be splited into two articles since it's about two operations. 1-Operation Decisive Storm. 2-Operation Restoring Hope. SharabSalam ( talk) 23:47, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Onetwothreeip has removed a lot of sourced contents from the infobox without giving a valid reason. He/She removed countries that are supporting Saudi-led war against Yemen. It's almost impossible to explain why you would remove France for example these news are just one day ago. I would like to know what's the reason for this removal? -- SharabSalam ( talk) 09:58, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Sjö The one who added the "silly" addition is you! see. ALL of the informations there are supported by sources and this seems like whitewashing and why arent you in the talk page instead of reverting? This edit will make me remove the alleged support section in the infobox-- SharabSalam ( talk) 20:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)