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This seems like an excellent candidate for future expansion. Between NASA archives, local press, and several books, there are sufficient sources to strongly expand this text. Also, with the recent building of a new exhibit building for the Saturn V at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center, there is more recent history (especially the restoration) to be covered with its own attendant sourcing and photographs. - Dravecky ( talk) 23:49, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Added initial section covering restoration of the vehicle. There may be some sound of self-promotion/AD with reference to Conservation Solutions, especially with the reference material being their website. This was not my intent. Would appreciate any help revising that.-- Crkey ( talk) 18:08, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/display.html - good article & PD-USGov-NASA -- ke4roh ( talk) 03:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
The Saturn V displayed at Marshall was not the first to be built. It was built from several test components. The second stage was from AS-500 which I believe was the first Saturn V to be fully assembled. I'm not sure where the other parts came from, but since the second stage had already been used on AS-500, it can't possibly have been the first. -- G W … 18:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
...Too many indents :) There's an article already for the dynamic test stand and two others. [4] I have not yet put the pieces together to figure out what parts were tested on what stands at what times. With the renaming, it changes the focus of the article a little, to be more about the test article than about the thing on display in Huntsville, so we should flush out the part about why it's museum-worthy. I'd like to see much more about the tests, more details on the components, and as much as possible, attribute pictures to the actual parts in them. I'll work on it as I'm able, but not many spare minutes in a day! -- ke4roh ( talk) 12:49, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
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Hi ke4roh,
Thanks for your nomination. I have selected it as a good article because it had enough info and everything was well balanced. Thanks.-- Ankit Maity 10:37, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Forgive me if this is in the wrong place; I don't fully understand the GA nomination process. Copying comments I entered in the reasessment, which I still understand to be pending:
I agree these assessments are sometimes given too casually, and I have a couple of accuracy/completeness concerns:
Other than this, it qualifies as at least B class. JustinTime55 ( talk) 19:38, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
MHR-5 part 7 contains a free picture, figure 323, of SA-500D in the test stand, but it suffers from a bad moiré pattern in the sky to the left. There are probably other pictures, but I don't know where. -- ke4roh ( talk) 22:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I spoke to Ed Buckbee, first USSRC director and friend of von Braun. He insisted that the first stage on display was S-IC-T. He said, "Do you think von Braun would let that T-bird out of town? Of course not!" He also told of how they brought it up from MTF. "Winter is wrong." Not sure what to make of that. ke4roh ( talk) 14:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
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talk) 02:19, 11 April 2011 (UTC)The vehicle displayed in the USSRC Davidson Center is not the DTV. As shown in the picture the S-1C stage of the DTV had only one real engine. The other four were mass simulators. The S-1C stage in the USSRC has all five engines. The vehicle in the USSRC is known as the "Pathfinder," a vehicle that was built to prove the manufacturing tooling and processes before attempting to build a flight vehicle. The book, Stages to Saturn, by Roger Bielstein, confirms this. I was an engineer on the Saturn V and was very familiar with the DTV program. Also I visited the USSRC many times in the years before the Davidson Center was built, and during that time the vehicle laying on the ground was referrer to as the Pathfinder, a generic name for a vehicle built to prove the manufacturing processes. Unfortunately, the Davidson Center vehicle is on loan from the Smithsonian Institute and they have the name wrong. This the USSRC cannot correct the error. 136.53.32.78 ( talk) 17:18, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
Saturn V dynamic test vehicle has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. | |||||||||||||
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's
Main Page in the "
Did you know?" column on
February 19, 2011. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that NASA engineers shook a
Saturn V test vehicle (S-IC stage pictured) for over 400 hours to ensure it would withstand the rigors of launch? | |||||||||||||
Current status: Good article |
This article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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This seems like an excellent candidate for future expansion. Between NASA archives, local press, and several books, there are sufficient sources to strongly expand this text. Also, with the recent building of a new exhibit building for the Saturn V at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center, there is more recent history (especially the restoration) to be covered with its own attendant sourcing and photographs. - Dravecky ( talk) 23:49, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Added initial section covering restoration of the vehicle. There may be some sound of self-promotion/AD with reference to Conservation Solutions, especially with the reference material being their website. This was not my intent. Would appreciate any help revising that.-- Crkey ( talk) 18:08, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/display.html - good article & PD-USGov-NASA -- ke4roh ( talk) 03:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
The Saturn V displayed at Marshall was not the first to be built. It was built from several test components. The second stage was from AS-500 which I believe was the first Saturn V to be fully assembled. I'm not sure where the other parts came from, but since the second stage had already been used on AS-500, it can't possibly have been the first. -- G W … 18:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
...Too many indents :) There's an article already for the dynamic test stand and two others. [4] I have not yet put the pieces together to figure out what parts were tested on what stands at what times. With the renaming, it changes the focus of the article a little, to be more about the test article than about the thing on display in Huntsville, so we should flush out the part about why it's museum-worthy. I'd like to see much more about the tests, more details on the components, and as much as possible, attribute pictures to the actual parts in them. I'll work on it as I'm able, but not many spare minutes in a day! -- ke4roh ( talk) 12:49, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Ankit Maity 10:33, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi ke4roh,
Thanks for your nomination. I have selected it as a good article because it had enough info and everything was well balanced. Thanks.-- Ankit Maity 10:37, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Forgive me if this is in the wrong place; I don't fully understand the GA nomination process. Copying comments I entered in the reasessment, which I still understand to be pending:
I agree these assessments are sometimes given too casually, and I have a couple of accuracy/completeness concerns:
Other than this, it qualifies as at least B class. JustinTime55 ( talk) 19:38, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
MHR-5 part 7 contains a free picture, figure 323, of SA-500D in the test stand, but it suffers from a bad moiré pattern in the sky to the left. There are probably other pictures, but I don't know where. -- ke4roh ( talk) 22:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
I spoke to Ed Buckbee, first USSRC director and friend of von Braun. He insisted that the first stage on display was S-IC-T. He said, "Do you think von Braun would let that T-bird out of town? Of course not!" He also told of how they brought it up from MTF. "Winter is wrong." Not sure what to make of that. ke4roh ( talk) 14:23, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
{{
cite news}}
: |access-date=
requires |url=
(
help) says S-IC-T was taken from the test stand in 1974 and shipped to Florida, so it must not have been on display at USSRC from 1969 to the present. --
ke4roh (
talk) 02:19, 11 April 2011 (UTC)The vehicle displayed in the USSRC Davidson Center is not the DTV. As shown in the picture the S-1C stage of the DTV had only one real engine. The other four were mass simulators. The S-1C stage in the USSRC has all five engines. The vehicle in the USSRC is known as the "Pathfinder," a vehicle that was built to prove the manufacturing tooling and processes before attempting to build a flight vehicle. The book, Stages to Saturn, by Roger Bielstein, confirms this. I was an engineer on the Saturn V and was very familiar with the DTV program. Also I visited the USSRC many times in the years before the Davidson Center was built, and during that time the vehicle laying on the ground was referrer to as the Pathfinder, a generic name for a vehicle built to prove the manufacturing processes. Unfortunately, the Davidson Center vehicle is on loan from the Smithsonian Institute and they have the name wrong. This the USSRC cannot correct the error. 136.53.32.78 ( talk) 17:18, 29 August 2022 (UTC)