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Shouldn't we highlight the fact that, though Boeing was chosen as the manufacturer of the S-IC, MSFC chose to build the first stage test articles and the first two flight stages itself, and that the flight stages after this were built by Boeing? (This is verified by the color coding in the recently added diagram.) I'm not quite sure where the best place is to insert this. What say you all? JustinTime55 ( talk) 13:35, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
126 °F (52 °C) temperature difference between the two tanks.
A difference of 126x5/9= 70C exactly. Don’t consider the difference in the zero point. 2001:56A:712D:F700:94B9:4D92:3CCC:115E ( talk) 02:51, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
126 °F (52 °C) temperature difference between the two tanks.Please explain how a temperature difference is converted differently - or at least, how a general reader would understand this separate formula? It may be useful to provide some sort of footnote or link so that the general reader will understand it - because that's who we're writing for, not wonks.
The text says:
For the first two uncrewed launches, eight solid-fuel ullage motors ignited for four seconds to accelerate the S-II stage, followed by the ignition of the five J-2 engines. For the first seven crewed Apollo missions only four ullage motors were used on the S-II, and they were eliminated for the final four launches.
I can't find any mention of the ullage motor being removed in the subsequent missions, in the reference given a few sentences after ( https://web.archive.org/web/20150326211327/http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/documents/Second_Stage.pdf). LexisVD ( talk) 12:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2023 and 11 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Fappy45 ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Fappy45 ( talk) 15:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
As the vehicle that launched Skylab was radically different from the other vehicles (two stages v.s three stages (also the "third stage wasn't even based on the S-IVB 500)), should it be labeled as a different version, similar to the Falcon 9 page? Redacted II ( talk) 21:11, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
Currently there are 3 rockets listed as comparable to Saturn V; N1 (never operational), Energia & SLS. Could/should we add "Starship (not operational)"? Considering N1 is on the list and it was never operational, I think it's reasonable for Starship to be on the list too. Chalyls ( talk) 20:01, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of Apollo 7? It was an honest-to-god mission, not one that was skipped or discarded for some technical reason. 2601:18F:700:307:8CAC:4D51:9DCA:85D ( talk) 13:40, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
I am certain, having watched the design of most of the US space program from childhood in a family with a top level project engineer, that all of these craft were named after gods and not planets. I want to see a very credible source for Saturn 5 was named after the planet. see: Zeus, Nike, Apollo, Athena etc. named after gods. IMO it is an absolutely ridiculous assertion and not in any way factual except for the quibble that "the planet Saturn IS the god Saturn" which pffft, no. User:Pedant ( talk) 09:30, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Redraiderengineer ( talk) 10:51, 24 November 2023 (UTC)The program was named "Saturn" simply because Saturn was the next outer planet after Jupiter in the solar system. [1]
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Cocobb8: Apologies; I'm going to have to quickfail this review as a drive-by nomination. The
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an authorship breakdown shows that you currently have around 1%, much too low. Thank you for your enthusiasm for getting such vital topics to Good Articles, but please read through the criteria thoroughly before any nominations!
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Hello everyone,
As you have probably seen, I recently submitted this article for GAN. However, it was quick-failed because I did not have enough authorship on the article, a criteria I was totally not aware of.
So, here's me tagging the contributors with more authorship on the article: @
The4lines @
CactiStaccingCrane @
Enceladus @
JustinTime55
What do you guys think? Would one of you like to resubmit Saturn V to GAN? I really think all the criteria is met, and if there's anything that needs to be improved, please mention it below . Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 11:05, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
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Shouldn't we highlight the fact that, though Boeing was chosen as the manufacturer of the S-IC, MSFC chose to build the first stage test articles and the first two flight stages itself, and that the flight stages after this were built by Boeing? (This is verified by the color coding in the recently added diagram.) I'm not quite sure where the best place is to insert this. What say you all? JustinTime55 ( talk) 13:35, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
126 °F (52 °C) temperature difference between the two tanks.
A difference of 126x5/9= 70C exactly. Don’t consider the difference in the zero point. 2001:56A:712D:F700:94B9:4D92:3CCC:115E ( talk) 02:51, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
126 °F (52 °C) temperature difference between the two tanks.Please explain how a temperature difference is converted differently - or at least, how a general reader would understand this separate formula? It may be useful to provide some sort of footnote or link so that the general reader will understand it - because that's who we're writing for, not wonks.
The text says:
For the first two uncrewed launches, eight solid-fuel ullage motors ignited for four seconds to accelerate the S-II stage, followed by the ignition of the five J-2 engines. For the first seven crewed Apollo missions only four ullage motors were used on the S-II, and they were eliminated for the final four launches.
I can't find any mention of the ullage motor being removed in the subsequent missions, in the reference given a few sentences after ( https://web.archive.org/web/20150326211327/http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/documents/Second_Stage.pdf). LexisVD ( talk) 12:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 17 January 2023 and 11 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Fappy45 ( article contribs).
— Assignment last updated by Fappy45 ( talk) 15:58, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
As the vehicle that launched Skylab was radically different from the other vehicles (two stages v.s three stages (also the "third stage wasn't even based on the S-IVB 500)), should it be labeled as a different version, similar to the Falcon 9 page? Redacted II ( talk) 21:11, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
Currently there are 3 rockets listed as comparable to Saturn V; N1 (never operational), Energia & SLS. Could/should we add "Starship (not operational)"? Considering N1 is on the list and it was never operational, I think it's reasonable for Starship to be on the list too. Chalyls ( talk) 20:01, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
Why is there no mention of Apollo 7? It was an honest-to-god mission, not one that was skipped or discarded for some technical reason. 2601:18F:700:307:8CAC:4D51:9DCA:85D ( talk) 13:40, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
I am certain, having watched the design of most of the US space program from childhood in a family with a top level project engineer, that all of these craft were named after gods and not planets. I want to see a very credible source for Saturn 5 was named after the planet. see: Zeus, Nike, Apollo, Athena etc. named after gods. IMO it is an absolutely ridiculous assertion and not in any way factual except for the quibble that "the planet Saturn IS the god Saturn" which pffft, no. User:Pedant ( talk) 09:30, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
Redraiderengineer ( talk) 10:51, 24 November 2023 (UTC)The program was named "Saturn" simply because Saturn was the next outer planet after Jupiter in the solar system. [1]
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Reviewer: Generalissima ( talk · contribs) 16:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
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Cocobb8: Apologies; I'm going to have to quickfail this review as a drive-by nomination. The
GA criteria explain that you need a fairly high percentage of authorship on the article to nominate it for GA status;
an authorship breakdown shows that you currently have around 1%, much too low. Thank you for your enthusiasm for getting such vital topics to Good Articles, but please read through the criteria thoroughly before any nominations!
Generalissima (
talk) 16:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
References
Hello everyone,
As you have probably seen, I recently submitted this article for GAN. However, it was quick-failed because I did not have enough authorship on the article, a criteria I was totally not aware of.
So, here's me tagging the contributors with more authorship on the article: @
The4lines @
CactiStaccingCrane @
Enceladus @
JustinTime55
What do you guys think? Would one of you like to resubmit Saturn V to GAN? I really think all the criteria is met, and if there's anything that needs to be improved, please mention it below . Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 11:05, 27 February 2024 (UTC)