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I'm going to put in a few references to online sources now, and add more references from a few history books I have soon Thepharmakon ( talk) 20:49, 24 October 2011 (UTC) 10/24/11
I have removed the clause "...which makes it 22 feet (7 m) taller than rival Stanford's Hoover Tower." because it seems (even to this Cal alumnus) out of place in an encyclopedia. Petershank 23:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
A bit esoteric perhaps? Anybody care to decipher this? 76.166.245.241 ( talk) 14:59, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Can it really be considered as Berkeley's most recognizable symbol? Justicestudent9 ( talk) 07:01, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
I propose that Berkeley Carillon be merged into Sather Tower. I think these articles are about the same tower, the source containing facts the target doesn't, but lacking inline citations. TheGGoose ( talk) 16:43, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi EEng. I'm not sure that I understand your rationale for this revert of my addition to the article. The University of Concepción claim needs a source and the material about Changing Places is sourced. Cordless Larry ( talk) 18:36, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay. We're talking about this:
David Lodge's novel Changing Places tells the story of exchange of professors between the universities of Rummidge and Euphoric State, Plotinus (thinly disguised fictional versions of the University of Birmingham and UC Berkeley), which in the book both have replicas of the Leaning Tower of Pisa on campus. [1]
But look what this really is. A novel takes place in fictional University A and University B. A commentary says (and I believe it) that these are disguised versions of Berkeley and Birmingham. In the novel, A and B both have towers that look like the Tower of Pisa. The real Berkeley and Birmingham both have towers, but they certainly have nothing to do with the Tower of Pisa and don't even particularly look like each other (see Joseph_Chamberlain_Memorial_Clock_Tower). So really, all we have is that Sather Tower is a tower at Berkeley, and there's a book about a fictional university that's a disguised Berkeley that has a quite different tower. What in the world does this tell the reader about Sather Tower? E Eng 02:09, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
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I added some info on the clock and its bell (the William Ashburner Memorial clock). I note the source I used states 1899 for when it was installed in Bacon but other places state 1890 or 1889. It seems to have been made by the Seth Thomas Clock Company. William Ashburner was regent from 1880-1887 when he died (he was also a founding trustee of Stanford and a mining engineer). Flickr has a photo of a notice which if someone can confirm its existence at the tower we could use as a reference https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyg/6829667882 -- Erp ( talk) 02:39, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
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I'm going to put in a few references to online sources now, and add more references from a few history books I have soon Thepharmakon ( talk) 20:49, 24 October 2011 (UTC) 10/24/11
I have removed the clause "...which makes it 22 feet (7 m) taller than rival Stanford's Hoover Tower." because it seems (even to this Cal alumnus) out of place in an encyclopedia. Petershank 23:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
A bit esoteric perhaps? Anybody care to decipher this? 76.166.245.241 ( talk) 14:59, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Can it really be considered as Berkeley's most recognizable symbol? Justicestudent9 ( talk) 07:01, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
I propose that Berkeley Carillon be merged into Sather Tower. I think these articles are about the same tower, the source containing facts the target doesn't, but lacking inline citations. TheGGoose ( talk) 16:43, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi EEng. I'm not sure that I understand your rationale for this revert of my addition to the article. The University of Concepción claim needs a source and the material about Changing Places is sourced. Cordless Larry ( talk) 18:36, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay. We're talking about this:
David Lodge's novel Changing Places tells the story of exchange of professors between the universities of Rummidge and Euphoric State, Plotinus (thinly disguised fictional versions of the University of Birmingham and UC Berkeley), which in the book both have replicas of the Leaning Tower of Pisa on campus. [1]
But look what this really is. A novel takes place in fictional University A and University B. A commentary says (and I believe it) that these are disguised versions of Berkeley and Birmingham. In the novel, A and B both have towers that look like the Tower of Pisa. The real Berkeley and Birmingham both have towers, but they certainly have nothing to do with the Tower of Pisa and don't even particularly look like each other (see Joseph_Chamberlain_Memorial_Clock_Tower). So really, all we have is that Sather Tower is a tower at Berkeley, and there's a book about a fictional university that's a disguised Berkeley that has a quite different tower. What in the world does this tell the reader about Sather Tower? E Eng 02:09, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
References
I added some info on the clock and its bell (the William Ashburner Memorial clock). I note the source I used states 1899 for when it was installed in Bacon but other places state 1890 or 1889. It seems to have been made by the Seth Thomas Clock Company. William Ashburner was regent from 1880-1887 when he died (he was also a founding trustee of Stanford and a mining engineer). Flickr has a photo of a notice which if someone can confirm its existence at the tower we could use as a reference https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallyg/6829667882 -- Erp ( talk) 02:39, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
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