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What is the prize for winning Ninja Warrior? And is ther even one in the first place? 68.112.140.3 ( talk) 20:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)Alec Marshall
~~I was wondering this also. Isn't the award money the same as the women's tournament--2 million Yen?
No clue. Where are the gurus when you need them? -- 68.112.140.3 ( talk) 01:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC) Alec Marshall
Guru here: "The prize for completing the Final Stage was ¥2,000,000 (about US$18,618). The prize has now increased to ¥4,000,000 (about US$37,236) since the completion of the 17th tournament." -Taken from the final stage section of the "list of SASUKE stages" page. You guys just had to look harder. Scnoi1217 ( talk) 02:24, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much. This will be most helpful for my project. -- 68.112.140.3 ( talk) 02:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)Alec Marhsall
WTF? where is it? -- SoldierOfColbert ( talk) 06:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
has there been a 20th tournament already? there seems to be a post on it under All-star #3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.55.240.64 ( talk) 06:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Who decided that the 20th tournament was the same as the 19th but the first stage has 5 more seconds? Has it been leaked? —Preceding
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71.245.110.10 (
talk) 03:53, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
On lostinube's blog, one of the videos he posted yesterday of Sasuke Mania 20 definitely shows a Sextuple Step obstacle, and It has been seen in a few pictures beside the new starting line (the one that says 20th anniversary). Is this enough info for a new row in the tables? ~~slowesttooth~~ —Preceding
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70.73.176.133 (
talk) 17:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I've added the results for the 20th competition. Will try to get more information up later when I have time. Btw, we'll never learn what the Sky Walk was supposed to be because they changed it to something else.
Lostinube (
talk) 13:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Why do people keep deleting my section about the American Ninja Competitors? Brett Sims did compete with Brian and Levi in 20, yet they keep deleting what I wrote. I also put where they failed in the 20th Competition. Its not false info, lostinube's blog can be evidence. --scnoi1217 —Preceding
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69.142.208.48 (
talk) 19:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey everyone, myself and my co-workers have been removing Brett, Brians and Levi's results, as we have the rights to air the show here on G4. I am new member (though not a new user) and am still figuring out how best to use 'talk' pages. I want to be clear, that it is not my intent to 'vandalize' the "American Ninja Warrior" section of the Sasuke page as Jason mentioned. I have A LOT of respect for Wikipedia and the work that you all do to maintain its accuracy and thoroughness! I really truly do! I am not trying to impede upon your right to information or freedom of speech. BUT because this special is something that we'd like to continue - we HAVE to find a way to prevent leakage before the initial G4 airing of the show on May 18th. Otherwise ... there may not be one. Protecting info until its is revealed on our show - well... it is necessary to the survival of all reality based shows - ours is no exception. I won't be deleting anymore, our executives and legal department will be contacting the site in hopes of reaching an agreement. Which hopefully can be done. Thank you once again for all the work you do on maintaining this site! ( Jennawils ( talk) 21:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC))
You know, with all respect towards Sasuke/NW/G4TV, this is un-Wikipedia. That would be like a movie studio deleting the plot on its movies, or American Idol deleting the voting results until they hit the West Coast 3 hours later (which is unheard of in Wikipedia, if you didn't know). Spider-Man 3's plot was on here 2 weeks before it came out anywhere, that's what Wikipedia is, and all about: getting all the information up as soon as it's available. I have no problem with wanting it off of G4's forums, but...Wikipedia?
--mcfaddenator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.182.88.61 ( talk) 03:25, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
With the addition of the Spider Flip, the Devil Steps, the higher Warped Wall, and the Salmon Ladder, I think they outdid Viking by a good deal. Anything I'm really missing? Self Titled Album 19:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I've heard the Tarzan Jump(comps 9-11) called "Tarzan Rope" by the Japanese narrator. Should we keep it as Tarzan Jump,because we already have a Tarzan Rope(18-)?-- Xt e r r a1 18:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Its seems that someone has vandalised the third stage charts and final stage charts. I do not know how to fix it, so could someone with more expierience than me clean that up?
Supasta 21:31, 22 December 2007
Supasta,I'm on it! Happy Holidays!-- Xt e r r a1 16:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
No matter you celebrate Christmas, Hannukah, Kwanzaa, or not anything at all, Happy Holidays. As a little treat, here is a link to a video showing the only woman, Chie tanabe, passing the 1st Stage and her short run on Stage 2.
Supasta 11:24, 24 December 2007
Boy would I love to watch the raw TBS airings.
Anyways, I watched the 19th Competition on G4 recently, and as we all know, and as it is documented in the article, no one passed the second stage. So I'm wondering, does TBS showcase the obstacles in the first three stages in detail? I know Ninja Warrior didn't do anything specific in that regard. VxJasonxV ( talk) 23:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible either in this article or another one, to have individual pictures of each of the obstacles? This means images of each individual part of the course need to be taken and shown next to its counterpart.
-- 86.128.31.30 ( talk) 20:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I came here to learn a bit more about this competition, and a few things in the article puzzled me: 1. I didn't see how "all-stars" are being qualified. Is it an arbitary decision or is their a formal requirememnt? Should this be in the article? Or is it there and I'm blind?
2. Do the colors on the obstacles have any meaning, or is it just to make the chart more readable and easily see where the same obstacle has been used across seasons? If the latter, why do some of the different obstacles share a color? Does this need to be clarified in the article, or am I the only person who can't figure this out?
Thanks. 75.163.157.169 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 03:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
The colors, as of now, are there to make reading the chart a little easier. Originally I had the colors set up so similar obstacles had the same color, much like how all the bridges in the First Stage are right now. I had set the Log Grip and Rolling Log to the same color, the Spinning Log and Log Slope to the same color, just a lot of things like that. I'll probably go and change them back before long, since the certain person with "a passion for Sasuke" (no offense XT) has stopped screwing them up. Self Titled Album 21:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I can't figure out why everyone thinks the Sky Walk obstacle is similar to the Cliff Hanger. From the short bit they showed on g4's Ninja Warrior, it looked like a big gap the contestants have to jump across with a plain vertical wall to push off of, hence mimicking "walking on the sky". I didn't see anywhere to hold on to to make it a "hanging on" obstacle, but maybe some of you know more than me. What does everyone think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.113.93 ( talk) 19:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Throughout the article, different words are being used to describe the same things. To maintain consistency and avoid possible confusion, only one of the words should be used for each concept. Here are some options, each for the same idea:
I think tournament is a bad choice because it defines a type of game where the players directly face one another to determine one (and only one) champion. That is not how Sasuke transpires. The Japanese article calls each broadcast a taikai (大会), which is defined by WWWJDIC as a "convention; tournament; mass meeting; rally". To me, that definition sounds closest to meet or meeting. I think it also embodies the nature of how the athletes come together and battle the course, not each other. (Are the terms "track meet" and "swap meet" internationally common?)
The Japanese article and official sites use numerals (1, 2, 3,...) for each broadcast. The catch is, the numerals are in the form "第3回", whereby the use of kanji may either be interpreted to turn it into a word-written ordinal, like "Third", or be equivalent to writing an English ordinal, like "3rd". I don't have enough information to decide.
The stages (not broadcasts like above) in both the Japanese article and official sites are labeled with English ordinals (1st, 2nd, 3rd, Final). Good, it's clearly defined. Any objections?
Lastly, what should we call the people attempting the course? I would tend to call the athletes challengers or hopefuls. Both the words competitors and contestants, by definition, signify a rivalry among the people attending, which doesn't seem to fit with Sasuke. As for the comedians and celebrities, I would tend to think of them as participants since they aren't really serious, although challengers or hopefuls can fit, too.
What do you think? -- Diluvial ( talk) 02:09, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Well dayum, that's something that's been irking me for a while. Shall I get cracking? Self Titled Album 16:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I know this sounds like a strange/geekish question, but does anyone know how much it cost the studio to build all 4 stages for sasuke? I've had people e-mailing this question to me at my sasuke fanpage for months and I have no idea, so I was hoping someone could help me figure it out. Any help would be appriciated. ---- Thanx :)
For those who are lucky enough to watch the Japanese broadcast (or at least seen the Nagano 2006 win), what is the name of the music when they complete stages 1, 2, and 3? Rollinman ( talk) 17:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
It would be nice to include a list of injuries sustained by any of the competitors. For instance, I think one of the finalists injured his shoulder when the rope was cut on the final stage. The announcer mentioned that it happened in the previous competition ... Unfortunately i don't know which episode or competitor! Reklar ( talk) 17:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm not good with Wiki, so I'll probably format this all wrong. I want to say it was Takeda, though I'm not certain. I also believe he fell on his own about 15 feet up, it was not a result of the rope being cut. Some information about injuries would be nice, but I'm not aware of a source for this information. They seem to avoid talking about it on the show. I know I have the episode in which a competitor (Takeda?) hurts his shoulder recorded on my DVR. If you need me to dig through all the recorded episodes to find it let me know. 75.173.253.61 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
I think you're thinking of Yamamoto Shingo, who has a bad shoulder, and dislocated it on his attempt on the final stage early on in the run. FMPhoenixHawk ( talk) 11:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
A couple of questions/remarks: Something has been bugging me about the Mountain Climb's description. It says that that the wall moves because of the weight of the competitor. I don't think this is right because I've seen the wall begin to move before the contestant gets on. I'm pretty sure it's motorized, but I don't want to change it until someone has confirmed this. Also, what the heck is the Needle Climb from stage 3? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.113.93 ( talk) 20:21, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, no one has responded, so I'm changing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.113.93 ( talk) 20:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I found this link from another Ninja warrior forum that shows more than I think anyone here has seen of the first tournament. Also included is the Needle Climb obstacle. Is this enough evidence to justify adding it to the Obstacle listings section? (By the way, I'm pretty active on this discussion page but I don't know how to add a signature. Can someone help me with this? Thanks.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnY4KnZfHpo
When I was watching Sasuke 15, I noticed that it seemed every contestant went over the jump-hang (as opposed to some going under as in earlier Sasukes). It looks as if they may have removed the gap between the end of the rope net and the platform that comes right after it. Can someone confirm this? The side angle used on television makes it hard to tell if it was changed, but the contestant behaviors seem to suggest it may be different. Scratch that, I saw Akiyama went under the net... In case anyone else was wondering the same thing. 24.58.37.208 ( talk) 01:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Possibly March 26th. TBS doesn't have their page up yet but from Makoto Nagano's site:
3月のサスケ20回大会 (3月26日放映予定) には出場予定ですので、頑張りたいと思います。 [1]
The Japanese wikipedia entry is taking this as gospel but I'll hold off putting it in here until we get more concrete proof. Lostinube ( talk) 15:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
If I recall correctly, isn't Colin Bell a student at Michigan State University, not U of M? I thought he just was from Ann Arbor. However, I cannot find anything on the G4 website one way or the other. I could probably check the Michigan State Wiki, (As an alumnus) but I'm not sure if it would be listed there either. FMPhoenixHawk ( talk) 08:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Has a release date for DVDs of any of the tournaments ever been announced? I could swear I heard something about DVDs beig released soon. It would be nice to see the entire thing unedited (and translated, if possible.) FMPhoenixHawk ( talk) 08:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
While watching Sasuke 3 on g4, when the the Monkey reached the Pipe Slider, the announcer said something to the effect of "He's conquered this obstacle twice before..." this has to mean that Sasuke 1 included the Pipe Slider. Of course, maybe the tanslation was incorrect. What does everyone else think? 70.113.113.93 ( talk) 03:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
It's just a wrong translation. The "Needle Climb" was the last obstacle on the third stage
They don't always have the right translation. Nothing you can do......
Rollinman (
talk) 19:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I think it is a fallacy to say that Kunoichi is easier outright. It clearly just emphasizes a different skill set (balance and and quickness) then the male version(strength and size). Most of the men would flop especially on stage 3 of Kunoichi. Its like saying pink cars are easier to drive. Its not correct. 69.250.127.130 ( talk) 02:36, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I think Daisuke Nakata is Really Ayako Miyake in disguise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naganofan200 ( talk • contribs) 16:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
First off, i would like to thank whoever put the results of the 20th competition on youtube. I did like some things and disliked some things about this tournament. i like that Brett Sims returned to sasuke, sadly falling at the Warped Wall, I also liked the the only person to get to the 3rd Stage was an american! It sounds like he did pretty good. The other thing i liked was that Makoto Nagano was able to complete the 1st stage, but unfortunately, he failed the downhgill jump at the beginning of the second stage. The only thing i really disliked was that only nagano was the only all star to get to the second stage.
Everyone else's thoughts on this?
User:Supasta 18:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
There was one on youtube. I was the only one to see it i guess, as it had no views, and i kept watching it over and over. Strangely, after only an hour of beign on youtube, it was taken off by TBS and the user who posted it was suspended from his youtube account. The only All-Star in that video was Kazuhiko Akiyama. He performed well on the Sextuple Step and Log Grip, but, compared to Katsumi Yamada last competition, struggled on the Pole Maze. he passed it with more time left, about 60 seconds, and made a drastic jump to the Jumping Spider. I was surprised that he didn't fall, as his jump was similar to Brett Sim's jump last competition. He struggled like Brett but did not fall. He rushed through that with 30 seconds. He than made a nice run to the Halfpipe Attack, and even grabbed onto the rope, but wasn't able ot hold on long enough to complete the obstacle.
very interetsing so far.
Supasta 16:55, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
"As of March 2007, no competitor has been able to successfully complete this incarnation of the Cliff Hanger."
"As of" means that the date provided is the latest date available for which the information in question is still true. In March 2008 someone tried and failed, so "as of" 2008 it is true, not 2007 since we have more recent information. So either that goes in or the sentence is changed to make sense. 86.22.94.160 ( talk) 00:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I have photos up of the obstacles for reference. I'm not familiar with the G4 terminology though so the names migt be different from what they call them or what you know them as. These photos all have watermarks on them so they're not suitable for the wiki but if someone wants to do the fair use write up for them I can send them non-watermarked screen caps.
1st stage:
http://lostinube.blogspot.com/2008/03/sasuke-2008-1st-stage-obstacles.html
2nd stage:
http://lostinube.blogspot.com/2008/03/sasuke-2008-2nd-stage-obstacles.html
3rd stage:
http://lostinube.blogspot.com/2008/03/sasuke-2008-3rd-stage-obstacles-and.html
Please remember that everything past the New Cliff Hanger has never been tried yet so any talk about how they should be cleared is probably speculation and probably not appropriate for a wiki. Lostinube ( talk) 15:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Regarding an earlier discussion about how to term the people who tackle SASUKE if TBS says competitors here [5] is that enough to justify using the term exclusively throughout the wiki? Any thoughts? Also, I've had no luck tracking down a nominee list for the 2005 International Emmy regionals mentioned on that page. Lostinube ( talk) 15:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed the references to Naoki Iketani participating in the Olympics since he never did - his brother did twice but Naoki only covered the Olympics as a TV reporter. This is a link to the past Olympic Team Rosters for Japan. [6] As for Okuyama, I can find no record of him having participated in the Olympics -- even the SASUKE broadcast only mentioned his participation in the 1991 World Championships which I included into the article (sorry, I don't know how to change the wording if it's an internal link). I know I originally blogged that he was the brother of an Olympian (I don't know where that came from) and others may have referred to him as an ex-Olympian but as far as I can find, he never reached the Olympics. For the record, he repeatedly stated during the broadcast that SASUKE is like his Olympics. Lostinube ( talk) 12:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know what happened, but the obstacle table a total mess now. There's no organization to anything, and it's bordering hideous. It's loaded with inconsistencies, and people just don't seem to agree on what to do with it. Should I just remove the colors altogether?
Durr, forgot to sign. Self Titled Album 05:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I was kinda planning on that in the first place, but it's just beyond my control at this point. If we do actually want colors, I do definitely have a set to go from, but considering how almost every obstacle in the 3rd Stage is now like... exactly the same, it's not gonna have much meaning. I don't know. Any ideas? 68.194.186.253 ( talk) 05:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know about the rest of you but I'm uncomfortable speculating about what the latter obstacles such as the Final Ring and new Final Stage are supposed to be. In the Final Ring description there are several "seems to be"s. In fact, every sentence after the one ending "..the ring is smaller." has a "seems to" in it. And we don't know if there is a Spider Climb for the Final Stage. Should we remove these lines? Isn't it easier to just say that the obstacle hasn't been attempted and no other information is available at this time instead of having people fighting over the descriptions? Lostinube ( talk) 09:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm editing the Final Ring because after close observation, the track is on an incline, otherwise, the obstacle would be virtually impossible to complete. Also, with the final stage, judging from the Final Ring screenshot, it looks to be a ladder-esque obstacle in where the spider climb would be. It could be misleading though, as it also could just be part of the stage for easy access to the top. http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff91/lostinube/SASUKE%202008/SASUKE2008_3rdStage-8-FinalRing.jpg Rollinman ( talk) 06:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Nothing new, just there is a much clearer picture of the Final Stage in G4's photo album of Ninjafest 2: http://www.g4tv.com/ninjawarrior/photo_gallery/1036/Ninja_Warrior__Ninja_Fest_2/index.html --scnoi1217 69.142.208.48 ( talk) 23:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I should probably start reading Wikipedia policy pages, but I'll turn this question to the masses instead.
I don't admit to being a highly knowledgeable wikipedia user (in the context of the wiki and policies itself), but is there anything we can do about all this vandalism by (presumably) G4, the ANW contestants, and anyone else just being "funny"? Based off what I know, the only thing would be to break certain sections off into a new page (we might want to consider doing that with the obstacle list), and have those extra pages protected once all details are finalized.
I would imagine this is also a horrendously difficult and annoying process. VxJasonxV ( talk) 21:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I think -- I repeat I THINK since I don't have anyway to back it up -- the fourth finalist whose name couldn't be translated is this man: Takashi You http://www.azzlo.com/ty/ Can someone follow-up? Lostinube ( talk) 06:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I wouldn't know if it was him or not. Somebody already changed the name to Yang Chan and a simple Chinese to English translation has it as Yang Chonghui. I have to no way of knowing if this is correct or not. --scnoi1217 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.208.48 ( talk) 20:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Ube suggested a split of the Obstacle list, and the All-Star list. This makes sense for many reasons, as the details for both of these suggestions can be very very heavy. I agree with the Obstacle list, I disagree with the All-Star list.
It seems backwards to remove the All-Stars from the main article, them being pretty much undoubtedly the most famous/popular of the set of competitors. Not to even mention their continued attempts and skill. If we were to only 'shrink' but not totally seperate the competitor list, I suggest exactly the opposite. Remove all notable non-allstars from the main article into their own page. Alternatively, and this is my personal suggestion, just remove the details of competitors from the main article, and come up with a overview blurb about the variety of contestants that have attempted Sasuke throughout the years, and simply link to the page with the details of them. Two candidates for the split, we can use these to modify them to our liking and then merge them into their own official pages. I just copied over the current content for now: User:VxJasonxV/List_of_Sasuke_Obstacles and User:VxJasonxV/List_of_Notable_Sasuke_Competitors. VxJasonxV ( talk) 16:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
There is vandalism on the final stage. Rollinman ( talk) 18:30, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I reverted it, but its always the same person. Look for someone with this IP address: 89.240.212.151 He is vandalizing the Sasuke and Kunoichi articles. 69.142.208.48 ( talk) 14:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
You might have noticed that I overhauled the table colors recently. I'm requesting that the Third Stage's "Rumbling Dice" and "Arm Rings" be recolored,and that color can't match any other Third Stage colors. Thanks, Xt e r r a1 19:10, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Um... no offense there X, but the obstacle table looks ridiculous like this, with every single obstacle a different, random color. Think Michael J Fox on meth with a canvas and oil paint. It's a little painful to look at and comprehend. It's something I haven't kept up with in a long time, but fo' realz, it needs some sort of structure, which it does not have at the moment. Self Titled Album 08:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Do you guys think it's a good idea to write down the second stage finalists as well as the third and final stage finalists. Not like were writing down all 2000 competitors. Just second stage and beyond.
Don't forget to sign your comments if you have an account. Anyway, it's tough call but if we keep the results on the same page as the main article, they should be limited to whoever went the furthest in that particular competition. The page is shorter now that the obstacle list is on another page but if we keep adding more and more results, where will it stop? In the 4th competition 34 people made it to the 2nd stage. That would definitely count as list bloat. Also, since G4 doesn't show the complete competition and people in Japan are generally working with incomplete information since the show has never been re-aired we can't really ever give a full and detailed account. Either the results go on a seperate page where the list can be expanded or just keep it as whoever went the furthest in each competition. Lostinube ( talk) 17:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, the Japanese Wiki lists around the top 5 people that make it the furthest, and since not many people have made it in the last two tournaments that list includes the first stage. That could work with Competitions 5 and 20 because not too many people made it. In 19, it becomes a problem because Takuya Kawahara made it to the Rope Ladder, yet his run wasn't shown in 19. When the competition has a lot of people in the 3rd Stage (like 4,12,16,17, etc.) the results can stay the way they are. Others, I guess we could add the 2nd Stage competitors (5 and 20 in particular). Since they have been added, I think we should leave them in there. --scnoi1217 69.142.208.48 ( talk) 03:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Read the topic. That is all. Self Titled Album 05:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
There appears to be an ongoing disagreement about whether or not to include 2nd stage information. Can someone please explain why this information doesn't belong in the article? -- Good Damon 17:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Look in the "Results" section two up from here. Personally, I don't mind it. I don't think it necessarily hurts the article, but I see where it can get a little crazy, especially in the earlier tournaments. But if the Japanese wiki page goes into the 2nd Stage (and sometimes into the 1st Stage for Tournaments like 5,19, and 20) for the results, then I think it's ok to add 2nd Stage results for the tournaments where we know all of the info, such as the latest tournaments. As long as it is a reasonable number of results (16 people like in Sasuke 16 should be the absolute maximum) and not like 30+ in Sasuke 4. Scnoi1217 ( talk) 19:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I propose a top ten list for each stage. Obviously this would run a little more if people were tied at 10th place for failing at the same obstacle, but I feel it'll keep a more general standard going, rather than having the exception of Sasuke 19. Plus, if it is a competition where the results were poor, it'll still keep a good record of who did relatively well, even if it means going into the First Stage. Self Titled Album 05:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
There was more than 10 people in Sasuke 4. There were exactly 10 people in the 3rd Stage in Sasuke 12 and 14. Look, the Japanese wiki does the results like this: Sasuke 18:
*1st Place: 98) Kenji Takahashi, 97) Shunsuke Nagasaki 3rd / New Cliffhanger (2 → 3 Ledge) *2nd Place: 96) Makoto Nagano 3rd / New Cliffhanger (2 → 3 Ledge, Disqualified) *4th Place: 86) Toshihiro Takeda, 60) Takamasa Nagasaki 2nd / Salmon Ladder (6 → 7 stages) *6th Place: 70) Yuji Washimi 2nd / Salmon Ladder (5 → 6 stages) *7th Place: 73) Katsumi Yamada, 56) Hiroshi Huzinami 48), Naohiro Suzuki 1st / Rope Ladder
Sasuke 19:
*1st Place: 86) Yuji Washimi 2nd / Salmon Ladder (6 → 7 Level) *2nd Place: 79) Koji Yamada 2nd / Salmon Ladder (6 Level, Time Up) *3rd Place: ??) Takuya Kawahara, 57) Atsushi Hirata 1st / Rope Ladder *5th Place: 100) Makoto Nagano, 97) Shunsuke Nagasaki, 82) Bunpei Shiratori (time up), 77) Takamasa Nagasaki, and many more 1st / Flying Chute
So, it really depends on the competition. Sasuke 5 and 20 only have the top 5, while Sasuke 16 has the 16 that made it to Stage 2 and Sasuke 4 has the top 13 (which ends at those who failed the Hammer Dodge). I say that we should add the 2nd Stage info for all the competitions, and for extreme tournaments where few make it (Sasuke 5, 18, 19, 20, etc.) we should add the First Stage info, but only up to the last obstacle of the First Stage (Rope Climb, Rope Ladder, etc.) That's my opinion: for the results to be more like the Japanese wiki. Scnoi1217 ( talk) 01:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok, so this topic has been discussed before, but there hasn't been any definitive answer. Should we include 2nd Stage information: Yes or No? The Japanese and Chinese wikipedia pages include 2nd Stage information and sometimes 1st Stage information if not many people make it. I say we should add them. They've been added in before only to be reverted by 71.249.255.91 because he says they are "unnecessary". I don't think they are unnecessary at all. They are the facts, and would be suitable for the wiki page. Could they bloat the page? Sure. But if both wikipedia pages listed above can do it and not take up half the page, then we can too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scnoi1217 ( talk • contribs) 02:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Disclaimer: What follows is an honest question and not an attempt to antagonize this article's editors.
Why is the article called "Sasuke" instead of "Ninja Warrior"? Isn't that against the naming conventions, where it is stated that "article naming should reflect what English speakers easily recognize"? After all, Ninja Warrior is the show's name in the United States, the United Kingdom and New Zealand.-- Nohansen ( talk) 00:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
But "Sasuke" is the show's REAL name, Ninja Warrior is just a made up name by G4. Much of the info in the article is about the Japanese broadcast, because G4 doesn't show much. And even though it is called Ninja Warrior, all of the episodes are named "Sasuke xx, Part x", so most people know the show's real name is "Sasuke". This situation is similar to the "soccer/football name change" but the wiki article on soccer is under the "Association football" article. Scnoi1217 ( talk) 00:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Not that I REALLY expect certain (read: probably anonymous, possibly non-english) users to read this first, but;
SASUKE21 is slated to be run/filmed on the 7th of September, and aired on the 17th of September. I think I can safely say that many of us here don't mind speculation and rumors, it gives us something to go crazy analytical over :). However, PLEASE DO NOT put said speculation/rumors into the article itself. Until airtime on the 17th of September, any SASUKE21 "facts" are indeed not, they are rumors and nothing more. I don't wish to seem disrespectful to people with sources, who know the information to be fact, but no one can reliably vouch for you.
Please save it for airing, and then add the absolute as-aired facts to the article.
Any speculation can take place in a number of locations. Here, the sasukefans webjam, your blog, wherever you want. Just please please, PLEASE; NOT in the article itself.
This public service plea for sanity was brought to you by VxJasonxV ( talk) 01:21, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
There is way too much clutter on this page. Either we should toss out some of the charts for the All-stars are make new articles for the All-Stars and results. I love Sasuke, but I still know an ugly looking page when I see one. -- Rubiksphere ( talk) 22:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
As a person knowlegeable on maps and cartography, I have found the location (coordinates) of the Sasuke staging area. I am 100% sure I found the correct location; it is in Kanagawa. Is it against any rules to put it in a section in the article? Let me know if I can post it here or not, and provide a reason why please. If I can, tell me which section I should put it in or if I should create a new one. Mattokunhayashi ( talk) 05:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
I forsee, very quickly, that the "Notable Competitors" list is going to become very unmanagable and huge over the course of the next few competitions. I'm trying to come up with a creative solution, and I think that a table of competitions (with no "did not compete" rows) of their participation is a good thing to do. But if we start stacking that in the main article, it'll get crazy cluttered and huge... again.
Any ideas? VxJasonxV ( talk) 19:18, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
I have a question that's hard to put into words. In the first dozen or so tournaments, they had one announcer, but added another one in the thirteenth or so tournament. What are these gentlemen's names? ( HairMetalLives ( talk) 21:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC))
* 古舘伊知郎(第1回大会 - 第12回大会(1st81番 - 100番、2nd、3rd、FINAL)) * 初田啓介(第2回大会 - 第12回大会(1st1番 - 80番)、第13回大会 - 第20回大会 (1st1番 - 30番、81番 - 100番、2nd(第4回大会、第13回大会)、3rd、FINAL、第20回大会1st51番 - 100番)) * 戸崎貴広(第1回大会(1st1番-80番) * 駒田健吾(第13回大会(1st31番 - 80番)) * 小笠原亘(第14回大会 - 第20回大会(1st31番 - 80番・2ndSTAGE、第20回大会1st1番 - 50番)
I have a quick question. What exactly qualifies a competitor to be named an "ALL-STAR"? My basic understanding was it goes to those who at least completed the 1st Stage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.132.235.104 ( talk) 18:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be an awful lot of vandalism of this article over the last week and a half, roughly. This is basically more or less a call to be a little more vigilant about the edits made here and to change any bad edits back as soon as possible. ( HairMetalLives ( talk) 22:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC))
There is a little bit of an edit war going right regarding the Hang Climbing obstacle (21st Tournament, Stage Three). It keeps getting changed to "Ascending Climb" or "Asending Climb" by one editor. However, "Ascending Climb" is a name fabricated by G4 for their Ninja Warrior broadcast and is in no way whatsoever official. This is a Sasuke page, not a Ninja Warrior page. All obstacle names (and everything else, frankly) should reflect that of the Japanese broadcast of Sasuke, not any foreign airing of the show. Period. ( HairMetalLives ( talk) 05:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC))
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What is the prize for winning Ninja Warrior? And is ther even one in the first place? 68.112.140.3 ( talk) 20:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)Alec Marshall
~~I was wondering this also. Isn't the award money the same as the women's tournament--2 million Yen?
No clue. Where are the gurus when you need them? -- 68.112.140.3 ( talk) 01:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC) Alec Marshall
Guru here: "The prize for completing the Final Stage was ¥2,000,000 (about US$18,618). The prize has now increased to ¥4,000,000 (about US$37,236) since the completion of the 17th tournament." -Taken from the final stage section of the "list of SASUKE stages" page. You guys just had to look harder. Scnoi1217 ( talk) 02:24, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much. This will be most helpful for my project. -- 68.112.140.3 ( talk) 02:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)Alec Marhsall
WTF? where is it? -- SoldierOfColbert ( talk) 06:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
has there been a 20th tournament already? there seems to be a post on it under All-star #3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.55.240.64 ( talk) 06:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Who decided that the 20th tournament was the same as the 19th but the first stage has 5 more seconds? Has it been leaked? —Preceding
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71.245.110.10 (
talk) 03:53, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
On lostinube's blog, one of the videos he posted yesterday of Sasuke Mania 20 definitely shows a Sextuple Step obstacle, and It has been seen in a few pictures beside the new starting line (the one that says 20th anniversary). Is this enough info for a new row in the tables? ~~slowesttooth~~ —Preceding
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70.73.176.133 (
talk) 17:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I've added the results for the 20th competition. Will try to get more information up later when I have time. Btw, we'll never learn what the Sky Walk was supposed to be because they changed it to something else.
Lostinube (
talk) 13:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Why do people keep deleting my section about the American Ninja Competitors? Brett Sims did compete with Brian and Levi in 20, yet they keep deleting what I wrote. I also put where they failed in the 20th Competition. Its not false info, lostinube's blog can be evidence. --scnoi1217 —Preceding
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69.142.208.48 (
talk) 19:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey everyone, myself and my co-workers have been removing Brett, Brians and Levi's results, as we have the rights to air the show here on G4. I am new member (though not a new user) and am still figuring out how best to use 'talk' pages. I want to be clear, that it is not my intent to 'vandalize' the "American Ninja Warrior" section of the Sasuke page as Jason mentioned. I have A LOT of respect for Wikipedia and the work that you all do to maintain its accuracy and thoroughness! I really truly do! I am not trying to impede upon your right to information or freedom of speech. BUT because this special is something that we'd like to continue - we HAVE to find a way to prevent leakage before the initial G4 airing of the show on May 18th. Otherwise ... there may not be one. Protecting info until its is revealed on our show - well... it is necessary to the survival of all reality based shows - ours is no exception. I won't be deleting anymore, our executives and legal department will be contacting the site in hopes of reaching an agreement. Which hopefully can be done. Thank you once again for all the work you do on maintaining this site! ( Jennawils ( talk) 21:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC))
You know, with all respect towards Sasuke/NW/G4TV, this is un-Wikipedia. That would be like a movie studio deleting the plot on its movies, or American Idol deleting the voting results until they hit the West Coast 3 hours later (which is unheard of in Wikipedia, if you didn't know). Spider-Man 3's plot was on here 2 weeks before it came out anywhere, that's what Wikipedia is, and all about: getting all the information up as soon as it's available. I have no problem with wanting it off of G4's forums, but...Wikipedia?
--mcfaddenator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.182.88.61 ( talk) 03:25, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
With the addition of the Spider Flip, the Devil Steps, the higher Warped Wall, and the Salmon Ladder, I think they outdid Viking by a good deal. Anything I'm really missing? Self Titled Album 19:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I've heard the Tarzan Jump(comps 9-11) called "Tarzan Rope" by the Japanese narrator. Should we keep it as Tarzan Jump,because we already have a Tarzan Rope(18-)?-- Xt e r r a1 18:45, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Its seems that someone has vandalised the third stage charts and final stage charts. I do not know how to fix it, so could someone with more expierience than me clean that up?
Supasta 21:31, 22 December 2007
Supasta,I'm on it! Happy Holidays!-- Xt e r r a1 16:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
No matter you celebrate Christmas, Hannukah, Kwanzaa, or not anything at all, Happy Holidays. As a little treat, here is a link to a video showing the only woman, Chie tanabe, passing the 1st Stage and her short run on Stage 2.
Supasta 11:24, 24 December 2007
Boy would I love to watch the raw TBS airings.
Anyways, I watched the 19th Competition on G4 recently, and as we all know, and as it is documented in the article, no one passed the second stage. So I'm wondering, does TBS showcase the obstacles in the first three stages in detail? I know Ninja Warrior didn't do anything specific in that regard. VxJasonxV ( talk) 23:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Is it possible either in this article or another one, to have individual pictures of each of the obstacles? This means images of each individual part of the course need to be taken and shown next to its counterpart.
-- 86.128.31.30 ( talk) 20:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I came here to learn a bit more about this competition, and a few things in the article puzzled me: 1. I didn't see how "all-stars" are being qualified. Is it an arbitary decision or is their a formal requirememnt? Should this be in the article? Or is it there and I'm blind?
2. Do the colors on the obstacles have any meaning, or is it just to make the chart more readable and easily see where the same obstacle has been used across seasons? If the latter, why do some of the different obstacles share a color? Does this need to be clarified in the article, or am I the only person who can't figure this out?
Thanks. 75.163.157.169 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 03:38, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
The colors, as of now, are there to make reading the chart a little easier. Originally I had the colors set up so similar obstacles had the same color, much like how all the bridges in the First Stage are right now. I had set the Log Grip and Rolling Log to the same color, the Spinning Log and Log Slope to the same color, just a lot of things like that. I'll probably go and change them back before long, since the certain person with "a passion for Sasuke" (no offense XT) has stopped screwing them up. Self Titled Album 21:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
I can't figure out why everyone thinks the Sky Walk obstacle is similar to the Cliff Hanger. From the short bit they showed on g4's Ninja Warrior, it looked like a big gap the contestants have to jump across with a plain vertical wall to push off of, hence mimicking "walking on the sky". I didn't see anywhere to hold on to to make it a "hanging on" obstacle, but maybe some of you know more than me. What does everyone think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.113.93 ( talk) 19:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Throughout the article, different words are being used to describe the same things. To maintain consistency and avoid possible confusion, only one of the words should be used for each concept. Here are some options, each for the same idea:
I think tournament is a bad choice because it defines a type of game where the players directly face one another to determine one (and only one) champion. That is not how Sasuke transpires. The Japanese article calls each broadcast a taikai (大会), which is defined by WWWJDIC as a "convention; tournament; mass meeting; rally". To me, that definition sounds closest to meet or meeting. I think it also embodies the nature of how the athletes come together and battle the course, not each other. (Are the terms "track meet" and "swap meet" internationally common?)
The Japanese article and official sites use numerals (1, 2, 3,...) for each broadcast. The catch is, the numerals are in the form "第3回", whereby the use of kanji may either be interpreted to turn it into a word-written ordinal, like "Third", or be equivalent to writing an English ordinal, like "3rd". I don't have enough information to decide.
The stages (not broadcasts like above) in both the Japanese article and official sites are labeled with English ordinals (1st, 2nd, 3rd, Final). Good, it's clearly defined. Any objections?
Lastly, what should we call the people attempting the course? I would tend to call the athletes challengers or hopefuls. Both the words competitors and contestants, by definition, signify a rivalry among the people attending, which doesn't seem to fit with Sasuke. As for the comedians and celebrities, I would tend to think of them as participants since they aren't really serious, although challengers or hopefuls can fit, too.
What do you think? -- Diluvial ( talk) 02:09, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Well dayum, that's something that's been irking me for a while. Shall I get cracking? Self Titled Album 16:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
I know this sounds like a strange/geekish question, but does anyone know how much it cost the studio to build all 4 stages for sasuke? I've had people e-mailing this question to me at my sasuke fanpage for months and I have no idea, so I was hoping someone could help me figure it out. Any help would be appriciated. ---- Thanx :)
For those who are lucky enough to watch the Japanese broadcast (or at least seen the Nagano 2006 win), what is the name of the music when they complete stages 1, 2, and 3? Rollinman ( talk) 17:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
It would be nice to include a list of injuries sustained by any of the competitors. For instance, I think one of the finalists injured his shoulder when the rope was cut on the final stage. The announcer mentioned that it happened in the previous competition ... Unfortunately i don't know which episode or competitor! Reklar ( talk) 17:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm not good with Wiki, so I'll probably format this all wrong. I want to say it was Takeda, though I'm not certain. I also believe he fell on his own about 15 feet up, it was not a result of the rope being cut. Some information about injuries would be nice, but I'm not aware of a source for this information. They seem to avoid talking about it on the show. I know I have the episode in which a competitor (Takeda?) hurts his shoulder recorded on my DVR. If you need me to dig through all the recorded episodes to find it let me know. 75.173.253.61 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
I think you're thinking of Yamamoto Shingo, who has a bad shoulder, and dislocated it on his attempt on the final stage early on in the run. FMPhoenixHawk ( talk) 11:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
A couple of questions/remarks: Something has been bugging me about the Mountain Climb's description. It says that that the wall moves because of the weight of the competitor. I don't think this is right because I've seen the wall begin to move before the contestant gets on. I'm pretty sure it's motorized, but I don't want to change it until someone has confirmed this. Also, what the heck is the Needle Climb from stage 3? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.113.93 ( talk) 20:21, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, no one has responded, so I'm changing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.113.93 ( talk) 20:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I found this link from another Ninja warrior forum that shows more than I think anyone here has seen of the first tournament. Also included is the Needle Climb obstacle. Is this enough evidence to justify adding it to the Obstacle listings section? (By the way, I'm pretty active on this discussion page but I don't know how to add a signature. Can someone help me with this? Thanks.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnY4KnZfHpo
When I was watching Sasuke 15, I noticed that it seemed every contestant went over the jump-hang (as opposed to some going under as in earlier Sasukes). It looks as if they may have removed the gap between the end of the rope net and the platform that comes right after it. Can someone confirm this? The side angle used on television makes it hard to tell if it was changed, but the contestant behaviors seem to suggest it may be different. Scratch that, I saw Akiyama went under the net... In case anyone else was wondering the same thing. 24.58.37.208 ( talk) 01:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Possibly March 26th. TBS doesn't have their page up yet but from Makoto Nagano's site:
3月のサスケ20回大会 (3月26日放映予定) には出場予定ですので、頑張りたいと思います。 [1]
The Japanese wikipedia entry is taking this as gospel but I'll hold off putting it in here until we get more concrete proof. Lostinube ( talk) 15:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
If I recall correctly, isn't Colin Bell a student at Michigan State University, not U of M? I thought he just was from Ann Arbor. However, I cannot find anything on the G4 website one way or the other. I could probably check the Michigan State Wiki, (As an alumnus) but I'm not sure if it would be listed there either. FMPhoenixHawk ( talk) 08:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Has a release date for DVDs of any of the tournaments ever been announced? I could swear I heard something about DVDs beig released soon. It would be nice to see the entire thing unedited (and translated, if possible.) FMPhoenixHawk ( talk) 08:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
While watching Sasuke 3 on g4, when the the Monkey reached the Pipe Slider, the announcer said something to the effect of "He's conquered this obstacle twice before..." this has to mean that Sasuke 1 included the Pipe Slider. Of course, maybe the tanslation was incorrect. What does everyone else think? 70.113.113.93 ( talk) 03:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
It's just a wrong translation. The "Needle Climb" was the last obstacle on the third stage
They don't always have the right translation. Nothing you can do......
Rollinman (
talk) 19:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I think it is a fallacy to say that Kunoichi is easier outright. It clearly just emphasizes a different skill set (balance and and quickness) then the male version(strength and size). Most of the men would flop especially on stage 3 of Kunoichi. Its like saying pink cars are easier to drive. Its not correct. 69.250.127.130 ( talk) 02:36, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
I think Daisuke Nakata is Really Ayako Miyake in disguise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naganofan200 ( talk • contribs) 16:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
First off, i would like to thank whoever put the results of the 20th competition on youtube. I did like some things and disliked some things about this tournament. i like that Brett Sims returned to sasuke, sadly falling at the Warped Wall, I also liked the the only person to get to the 3rd Stage was an american! It sounds like he did pretty good. The other thing i liked was that Makoto Nagano was able to complete the 1st stage, but unfortunately, he failed the downhgill jump at the beginning of the second stage. The only thing i really disliked was that only nagano was the only all star to get to the second stage.
Everyone else's thoughts on this?
User:Supasta 18:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
There was one on youtube. I was the only one to see it i guess, as it had no views, and i kept watching it over and over. Strangely, after only an hour of beign on youtube, it was taken off by TBS and the user who posted it was suspended from his youtube account. The only All-Star in that video was Kazuhiko Akiyama. He performed well on the Sextuple Step and Log Grip, but, compared to Katsumi Yamada last competition, struggled on the Pole Maze. he passed it with more time left, about 60 seconds, and made a drastic jump to the Jumping Spider. I was surprised that he didn't fall, as his jump was similar to Brett Sim's jump last competition. He struggled like Brett but did not fall. He rushed through that with 30 seconds. He than made a nice run to the Halfpipe Attack, and even grabbed onto the rope, but wasn't able ot hold on long enough to complete the obstacle.
very interetsing so far.
Supasta 16:55, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
"As of March 2007, no competitor has been able to successfully complete this incarnation of the Cliff Hanger."
"As of" means that the date provided is the latest date available for which the information in question is still true. In March 2008 someone tried and failed, so "as of" 2008 it is true, not 2007 since we have more recent information. So either that goes in or the sentence is changed to make sense. 86.22.94.160 ( talk) 00:38, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I have photos up of the obstacles for reference. I'm not familiar with the G4 terminology though so the names migt be different from what they call them or what you know them as. These photos all have watermarks on them so they're not suitable for the wiki but if someone wants to do the fair use write up for them I can send them non-watermarked screen caps.
1st stage:
http://lostinube.blogspot.com/2008/03/sasuke-2008-1st-stage-obstacles.html
2nd stage:
http://lostinube.blogspot.com/2008/03/sasuke-2008-2nd-stage-obstacles.html
3rd stage:
http://lostinube.blogspot.com/2008/03/sasuke-2008-3rd-stage-obstacles-and.html
Please remember that everything past the New Cliff Hanger has never been tried yet so any talk about how they should be cleared is probably speculation and probably not appropriate for a wiki. Lostinube ( talk) 15:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Regarding an earlier discussion about how to term the people who tackle SASUKE if TBS says competitors here [5] is that enough to justify using the term exclusively throughout the wiki? Any thoughts? Also, I've had no luck tracking down a nominee list for the 2005 International Emmy regionals mentioned on that page. Lostinube ( talk) 15:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed the references to Naoki Iketani participating in the Olympics since he never did - his brother did twice but Naoki only covered the Olympics as a TV reporter. This is a link to the past Olympic Team Rosters for Japan. [6] As for Okuyama, I can find no record of him having participated in the Olympics -- even the SASUKE broadcast only mentioned his participation in the 1991 World Championships which I included into the article (sorry, I don't know how to change the wording if it's an internal link). I know I originally blogged that he was the brother of an Olympian (I don't know where that came from) and others may have referred to him as an ex-Olympian but as far as I can find, he never reached the Olympics. For the record, he repeatedly stated during the broadcast that SASUKE is like his Olympics. Lostinube ( talk) 12:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know what happened, but the obstacle table a total mess now. There's no organization to anything, and it's bordering hideous. It's loaded with inconsistencies, and people just don't seem to agree on what to do with it. Should I just remove the colors altogether?
Durr, forgot to sign. Self Titled Album 05:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I was kinda planning on that in the first place, but it's just beyond my control at this point. If we do actually want colors, I do definitely have a set to go from, but considering how almost every obstacle in the 3rd Stage is now like... exactly the same, it's not gonna have much meaning. I don't know. Any ideas? 68.194.186.253 ( talk) 05:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know about the rest of you but I'm uncomfortable speculating about what the latter obstacles such as the Final Ring and new Final Stage are supposed to be. In the Final Ring description there are several "seems to be"s. In fact, every sentence after the one ending "..the ring is smaller." has a "seems to" in it. And we don't know if there is a Spider Climb for the Final Stage. Should we remove these lines? Isn't it easier to just say that the obstacle hasn't been attempted and no other information is available at this time instead of having people fighting over the descriptions? Lostinube ( talk) 09:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm editing the Final Ring because after close observation, the track is on an incline, otherwise, the obstacle would be virtually impossible to complete. Also, with the final stage, judging from the Final Ring screenshot, it looks to be a ladder-esque obstacle in where the spider climb would be. It could be misleading though, as it also could just be part of the stage for easy access to the top. http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff91/lostinube/SASUKE%202008/SASUKE2008_3rdStage-8-FinalRing.jpg Rollinman ( talk) 06:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Nothing new, just there is a much clearer picture of the Final Stage in G4's photo album of Ninjafest 2: http://www.g4tv.com/ninjawarrior/photo_gallery/1036/Ninja_Warrior__Ninja_Fest_2/index.html --scnoi1217 69.142.208.48 ( talk) 23:10, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I should probably start reading Wikipedia policy pages, but I'll turn this question to the masses instead.
I don't admit to being a highly knowledgeable wikipedia user (in the context of the wiki and policies itself), but is there anything we can do about all this vandalism by (presumably) G4, the ANW contestants, and anyone else just being "funny"? Based off what I know, the only thing would be to break certain sections off into a new page (we might want to consider doing that with the obstacle list), and have those extra pages protected once all details are finalized.
I would imagine this is also a horrendously difficult and annoying process. VxJasonxV ( talk) 21:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I think -- I repeat I THINK since I don't have anyway to back it up -- the fourth finalist whose name couldn't be translated is this man: Takashi You http://www.azzlo.com/ty/ Can someone follow-up? Lostinube ( talk) 06:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
I wouldn't know if it was him or not. Somebody already changed the name to Yang Chan and a simple Chinese to English translation has it as Yang Chonghui. I have to no way of knowing if this is correct or not. --scnoi1217 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.142.208.48 ( talk) 20:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Ube suggested a split of the Obstacle list, and the All-Star list. This makes sense for many reasons, as the details for both of these suggestions can be very very heavy. I agree with the Obstacle list, I disagree with the All-Star list.
It seems backwards to remove the All-Stars from the main article, them being pretty much undoubtedly the most famous/popular of the set of competitors. Not to even mention their continued attempts and skill. If we were to only 'shrink' but not totally seperate the competitor list, I suggest exactly the opposite. Remove all notable non-allstars from the main article into their own page. Alternatively, and this is my personal suggestion, just remove the details of competitors from the main article, and come up with a overview blurb about the variety of contestants that have attempted Sasuke throughout the years, and simply link to the page with the details of them. Two candidates for the split, we can use these to modify them to our liking and then merge them into their own official pages. I just copied over the current content for now: User:VxJasonxV/List_of_Sasuke_Obstacles and User:VxJasonxV/List_of_Notable_Sasuke_Competitors. VxJasonxV ( talk) 16:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
There is vandalism on the final stage. Rollinman ( talk) 18:30, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I reverted it, but its always the same person. Look for someone with this IP address: 89.240.212.151 He is vandalizing the Sasuke and Kunoichi articles. 69.142.208.48 ( talk) 14:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
You might have noticed that I overhauled the table colors recently. I'm requesting that the Third Stage's "Rumbling Dice" and "Arm Rings" be recolored,and that color can't match any other Third Stage colors. Thanks, Xt e r r a1 19:10, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Um... no offense there X, but the obstacle table looks ridiculous like this, with every single obstacle a different, random color. Think Michael J Fox on meth with a canvas and oil paint. It's a little painful to look at and comprehend. It's something I haven't kept up with in a long time, but fo' realz, it needs some sort of structure, which it does not have at the moment. Self Titled Album 08:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Do you guys think it's a good idea to write down the second stage finalists as well as the third and final stage finalists. Not like were writing down all 2000 competitors. Just second stage and beyond.
Don't forget to sign your comments if you have an account. Anyway, it's tough call but if we keep the results on the same page as the main article, they should be limited to whoever went the furthest in that particular competition. The page is shorter now that the obstacle list is on another page but if we keep adding more and more results, where will it stop? In the 4th competition 34 people made it to the 2nd stage. That would definitely count as list bloat. Also, since G4 doesn't show the complete competition and people in Japan are generally working with incomplete information since the show has never been re-aired we can't really ever give a full and detailed account. Either the results go on a seperate page where the list can be expanded or just keep it as whoever went the furthest in each competition. Lostinube ( talk) 17:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, the Japanese Wiki lists around the top 5 people that make it the furthest, and since not many people have made it in the last two tournaments that list includes the first stage. That could work with Competitions 5 and 20 because not too many people made it. In 19, it becomes a problem because Takuya Kawahara made it to the Rope Ladder, yet his run wasn't shown in 19. When the competition has a lot of people in the 3rd Stage (like 4,12,16,17, etc.) the results can stay the way they are. Others, I guess we could add the 2nd Stage competitors (5 and 20 in particular). Since they have been added, I think we should leave them in there. --scnoi1217 69.142.208.48 ( talk) 03:10, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Read the topic. That is all. Self Titled Album 05:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
There appears to be an ongoing disagreement about whether or not to include 2nd stage information. Can someone please explain why this information doesn't belong in the article? -- Good Damon 17:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Look in the "Results" section two up from here. Personally, I don't mind it. I don't think it necessarily hurts the article, but I see where it can get a little crazy, especially in the earlier tournaments. But if the Japanese wiki page goes into the 2nd Stage (and sometimes into the 1st Stage for Tournaments like 5,19, and 20) for the results, then I think it's ok to add 2nd Stage results for the tournaments where we know all of the info, such as the latest tournaments. As long as it is a reasonable number of results (16 people like in Sasuke 16 should be the absolute maximum) and not like 30+ in Sasuke 4. Scnoi1217 ( talk) 19:48, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I propose a top ten list for each stage. Obviously this would run a little more if people were tied at 10th place for failing at the same obstacle, but I feel it'll keep a more general standard going, rather than having the exception of Sasuke 19. Plus, if it is a competition where the results were poor, it'll still keep a good record of who did relatively well, even if it means going into the First Stage. Self Titled Album 05:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
There was more than 10 people in Sasuke 4. There were exactly 10 people in the 3rd Stage in Sasuke 12 and 14. Look, the Japanese wiki does the results like this: Sasuke 18:
*1st Place: 98) Kenji Takahashi, 97) Shunsuke Nagasaki 3rd / New Cliffhanger (2 → 3 Ledge) *2nd Place: 96) Makoto Nagano 3rd / New Cliffhanger (2 → 3 Ledge, Disqualified) *4th Place: 86) Toshihiro Takeda, 60) Takamasa Nagasaki 2nd / Salmon Ladder (6 → 7 stages) *6th Place: 70) Yuji Washimi 2nd / Salmon Ladder (5 → 6 stages) *7th Place: 73) Katsumi Yamada, 56) Hiroshi Huzinami 48), Naohiro Suzuki 1st / Rope Ladder
Sasuke 19:
*1st Place: 86) Yuji Washimi 2nd / Salmon Ladder (6 → 7 Level) *2nd Place: 79) Koji Yamada 2nd / Salmon Ladder (6 Level, Time Up) *3rd Place: ??) Takuya Kawahara, 57) Atsushi Hirata 1st / Rope Ladder *5th Place: 100) Makoto Nagano, 97) Shunsuke Nagasaki, 82) Bunpei Shiratori (time up), 77) Takamasa Nagasaki, and many more 1st / Flying Chute
So, it really depends on the competition. Sasuke 5 and 20 only have the top 5, while Sasuke 16 has the 16 that made it to Stage 2 and Sasuke 4 has the top 13 (which ends at those who failed the Hammer Dodge). I say that we should add the 2nd Stage info for all the competitions, and for extreme tournaments where few make it (Sasuke 5, 18, 19, 20, etc.) we should add the First Stage info, but only up to the last obstacle of the First Stage (Rope Climb, Rope Ladder, etc.) That's my opinion: for the results to be more like the Japanese wiki. Scnoi1217 ( talk) 01:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok, so this topic has been discussed before, but there hasn't been any definitive answer. Should we include 2nd Stage information: Yes or No? The Japanese and Chinese wikipedia pages include 2nd Stage information and sometimes 1st Stage information if not many people make it. I say we should add them. They've been added in before only to be reverted by 71.249.255.91 because he says they are "unnecessary". I don't think they are unnecessary at all. They are the facts, and would be suitable for the wiki page. Could they bloat the page? Sure. But if both wikipedia pages listed above can do it and not take up half the page, then we can too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scnoi1217 ( talk • contribs) 02:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Disclaimer: What follows is an honest question and not an attempt to antagonize this article's editors.
Why is the article called "Sasuke" instead of "Ninja Warrior"? Isn't that against the naming conventions, where it is stated that "article naming should reflect what English speakers easily recognize"? After all, Ninja Warrior is the show's name in the United States, the United Kingdom and New Zealand.-- Nohansen ( talk) 00:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
But "Sasuke" is the show's REAL name, Ninja Warrior is just a made up name by G4. Much of the info in the article is about the Japanese broadcast, because G4 doesn't show much. And even though it is called Ninja Warrior, all of the episodes are named "Sasuke xx, Part x", so most people know the show's real name is "Sasuke". This situation is similar to the "soccer/football name change" but the wiki article on soccer is under the "Association football" article. Scnoi1217 ( talk) 00:46, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Not that I REALLY expect certain (read: probably anonymous, possibly non-english) users to read this first, but;
SASUKE21 is slated to be run/filmed on the 7th of September, and aired on the 17th of September. I think I can safely say that many of us here don't mind speculation and rumors, it gives us something to go crazy analytical over :). However, PLEASE DO NOT put said speculation/rumors into the article itself. Until airtime on the 17th of September, any SASUKE21 "facts" are indeed not, they are rumors and nothing more. I don't wish to seem disrespectful to people with sources, who know the information to be fact, but no one can reliably vouch for you.
Please save it for airing, and then add the absolute as-aired facts to the article.
Any speculation can take place in a number of locations. Here, the sasukefans webjam, your blog, wherever you want. Just please please, PLEASE; NOT in the article itself.
This public service plea for sanity was brought to you by VxJasonxV ( talk) 01:21, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
There is way too much clutter on this page. Either we should toss out some of the charts for the All-stars are make new articles for the All-Stars and results. I love Sasuke, but I still know an ugly looking page when I see one. -- Rubiksphere ( talk) 22:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
As a person knowlegeable on maps and cartography, I have found the location (coordinates) of the Sasuke staging area. I am 100% sure I found the correct location; it is in Kanagawa. Is it against any rules to put it in a section in the article? Let me know if I can post it here or not, and provide a reason why please. If I can, tell me which section I should put it in or if I should create a new one. Mattokunhayashi ( talk) 05:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
I forsee, very quickly, that the "Notable Competitors" list is going to become very unmanagable and huge over the course of the next few competitions. I'm trying to come up with a creative solution, and I think that a table of competitions (with no "did not compete" rows) of their participation is a good thing to do. But if we start stacking that in the main article, it'll get crazy cluttered and huge... again.
Any ideas? VxJasonxV ( talk) 19:18, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
I have a question that's hard to put into words. In the first dozen or so tournaments, they had one announcer, but added another one in the thirteenth or so tournament. What are these gentlemen's names? ( HairMetalLives ( talk) 21:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC))
* 古舘伊知郎(第1回大会 - 第12回大会(1st81番 - 100番、2nd、3rd、FINAL)) * 初田啓介(第2回大会 - 第12回大会(1st1番 - 80番)、第13回大会 - 第20回大会 (1st1番 - 30番、81番 - 100番、2nd(第4回大会、第13回大会)、3rd、FINAL、第20回大会1st51番 - 100番)) * 戸崎貴広(第1回大会(1st1番-80番) * 駒田健吾(第13回大会(1st31番 - 80番)) * 小笠原亘(第14回大会 - 第20回大会(1st31番 - 80番・2ndSTAGE、第20回大会1st1番 - 50番)
I have a quick question. What exactly qualifies a competitor to be named an "ALL-STAR"? My basic understanding was it goes to those who at least completed the 1st Stage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.132.235.104 ( talk) 18:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be an awful lot of vandalism of this article over the last week and a half, roughly. This is basically more or less a call to be a little more vigilant about the edits made here and to change any bad edits back as soon as possible. ( HairMetalLives ( talk) 22:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC))
There is a little bit of an edit war going right regarding the Hang Climbing obstacle (21st Tournament, Stage Three). It keeps getting changed to "Ascending Climb" or "Asending Climb" by one editor. However, "Ascending Climb" is a name fabricated by G4 for their Ninja Warrior broadcast and is in no way whatsoever official. This is a Sasuke page, not a Ninja Warrior page. All obstacle names (and everything else, frankly) should reflect that of the Japanese broadcast of Sasuke, not any foreign airing of the show. Period. ( HairMetalLives ( talk) 05:25, 17 March 2009 (UTC))