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The editor who made the changes in late October, from IP address 82.47.136.8, must have a different Sarah Williams in mind, since he or she changed every relevant fact except the name of the poet and her poem. If there is indeed serious dispute about whether the author of The Old Astronomer to His Pupil is American or Australian, and whether she was born in 1837 or 1982, please respond here. I have internet references that support the former version, and can find none that support the latter.
I'm willing to concede the possibility that I made a big mistake, but I'd like to see some support for the changes.
ACW 21:51, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Sarah Williams was neither American nor Australian, but British. The Old Astronomer appears in the 1872 edition of the posthumous collection Twilight Hours (I haven't yet checked the previous two editions). Williams also has an entry in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Matthew Kilburn ( talk) 17:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Her poetry was published in a book entitled Twilight Hours, which is available in its entirety, I believe, on Google Books. It contains a memoir by an "E. H. Plumptre, M.A." - I think it might be Edward Plumptre, but his father was, according to the article, also named E. H. Plumptre. Note that I haven't read the memoir yet, but I plan to do so. Hopefully I'll be able to add a bit more to the article when I do. Cloudlet ( talk) 03:46, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
While the line "I have loved stars too truly..." is correct based on the scanned version of Twilight Hours at https://archive.org/details/cu31924091181317, this line is often quoted as "I have loved the stars too fondly...", for example at https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Old_Astronomer
Perhaps this should be mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.35.225.115 ( talk) 15:24, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Fellow editors and @ Pi.1415926535: I found the footnote preferring 1837 as birth year based on contemporary records convincing. But I wonder about the probably contradicting statement that she graduated from Queen's College in the early 1860s. Even assuming as early as 1860, that would make her graduate at age 23 instead of the typical 18. Aithus ( talk) 03:45, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
I was wondering whether this was the Sarah Williams who edited Letters Written by John Chamberlain for the Camden Society in 1861? ‑‑ Yodin T 11:55, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
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The editor who made the changes in late October, from IP address 82.47.136.8, must have a different Sarah Williams in mind, since he or she changed every relevant fact except the name of the poet and her poem. If there is indeed serious dispute about whether the author of The Old Astronomer to His Pupil is American or Australian, and whether she was born in 1837 or 1982, please respond here. I have internet references that support the former version, and can find none that support the latter.
I'm willing to concede the possibility that I made a big mistake, but I'd like to see some support for the changes.
ACW 21:51, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Sarah Williams was neither American nor Australian, but British. The Old Astronomer appears in the 1872 edition of the posthumous collection Twilight Hours (I haven't yet checked the previous two editions). Williams also has an entry in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography. Matthew Kilburn ( talk) 17:01, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Her poetry was published in a book entitled Twilight Hours, which is available in its entirety, I believe, on Google Books. It contains a memoir by an "E. H. Plumptre, M.A." - I think it might be Edward Plumptre, but his father was, according to the article, also named E. H. Plumptre. Note that I haven't read the memoir yet, but I plan to do so. Hopefully I'll be able to add a bit more to the article when I do. Cloudlet ( talk) 03:46, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
While the line "I have loved stars too truly..." is correct based on the scanned version of Twilight Hours at https://archive.org/details/cu31924091181317, this line is often quoted as "I have loved the stars too fondly...", for example at https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Old_Astronomer
Perhaps this should be mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.35.225.115 ( talk) 15:24, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
Fellow editors and @ Pi.1415926535: I found the footnote preferring 1837 as birth year based on contemporary records convincing. But I wonder about the probably contradicting statement that she graduated from Queen's College in the early 1860s. Even assuming as early as 1860, that would make her graduate at age 23 instead of the typical 18. Aithus ( talk) 03:45, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
I was wondering whether this was the Sarah Williams who edited Letters Written by John Chamberlain for the Camden Society in 1861? ‑‑ Yodin T 11:55, 21 June 2023 (UTC)