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I have been working on expanding the article, and along the way, I am not seeing the chief referred to by Sapiah much. In Indian Bureau and census records, he's referred to as Charles Buck - without his Ute name when other family members do have their Ute name - and newspapers and other publications generally referred to him as Buckskin Charlie.
From newspapers.com:
"Buckskin Charley" or "Buckskin Charlie" and Ute 946 matches
"Sapiah" 1 match
I am having a hard time zeroing in on this specific Charles Buck, but it is probably a subset of 234 Charles Bucks in Colorado
I have no strong feelings either way. I don't object to keeping it as it is, because the name is his birth name. I first came to this article a couple of years ago when I read The owl in Monument Canyon. In the book, he's Buckskin Charley. That's what I searched to find out more about him here, and a redirect/cross-reference led me to the article.
Two things I don't understand about the article in its current state are: "Sarah (Pah-Ho-SE)" and "Frances (Tri-ni-dad)." The parenthetical expressions, presumably pronunciation guides, don't match the names.
Jeffrey Beall, Thanks for your reply. Regarding your "two things", the names in parenthesis are their Ute names, so I added the link for Ute language like "Sarah (
Ute: Pah-Ho-SE)". Is it "two things" because you provided two names?
I don't think the hyphens are for pronunciation - that's the way their Ute names are written, like in the census records.
Are there any additional thoughts about the article title? It would be helpful to have more than 2 votes. If so, do you have a guideline for your vote?
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I have been working on expanding the article, and along the way, I am not seeing the chief referred to by Sapiah much. In Indian Bureau and census records, he's referred to as Charles Buck - without his Ute name when other family members do have their Ute name - and newspapers and other publications generally referred to him as Buckskin Charlie.
From newspapers.com:
"Buckskin Charley" or "Buckskin Charlie" and Ute 946 matches
"Sapiah" 1 match
I am having a hard time zeroing in on this specific Charles Buck, but it is probably a subset of 234 Charles Bucks in Colorado
I have no strong feelings either way. I don't object to keeping it as it is, because the name is his birth name. I first came to this article a couple of years ago when I read The owl in Monument Canyon. In the book, he's Buckskin Charley. That's what I searched to find out more about him here, and a redirect/cross-reference led me to the article.
Two things I don't understand about the article in its current state are: "Sarah (Pah-Ho-SE)" and "Frances (Tri-ni-dad)." The parenthetical expressions, presumably pronunciation guides, don't match the names.
Jeffrey Beall, Thanks for your reply. Regarding your "two things", the names in parenthesis are their Ute names, so I added the link for Ute language like "Sarah (
Ute: Pah-Ho-SE)". Is it "two things" because you provided two names?
I don't think the hyphens are for pronunciation - that's the way their Ute names are written, like in the census records.
Are there any additional thoughts about the article title? It would be helpful to have more than 2 votes. If so, do you have a guideline for your vote?