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I added references and additional info, therefore I removed the stub and cite references tags. Hopefully this suffices and everyone agrees the article is better. Let me know if you feel more needs to be done. Keithh ( talk) 18:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC) reply

John McGahern

I am not convinced John McGahern was a Saoi.

Evidence for
Evidence against
  • Aosdána biography does not mention
  • I checked all the Arts Council annual reports ( available here and here) and AFAIK the election of every new Saoi is noted in the relevant year; but McGahern is not noted. The 2004 Aosdána report does not lists McGahern as a Saoi: "There are never more than five Saoithe at any one time. In 2004 they were Louis le Brocquy, Anthony Cronin, Seamus Heaney and Benedict Kiely. " The 2006 Arts Council report notes his death but doesn't mention Aosdána at all. The 2005 Arts Council report says there was a separate Aosdána report for 2005, which I can't find online. It's just possible McGahern was elected Saoi that year. But I would expect some google news archive hits for such an event. jnestorius( talk) 18:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Arts Council press release on his death does not mention; I have removed him from the List. jnestorius( talk) 11:19, 4 February 2015 (UTC) reply

Year of election and investiture

The Arts Council Annual Reports ( available here and here) give the year of election and/or investiture of new Saoithe; sometimes these are a year earlier or later than those given in the Wikipedia page. I surmise that sometimes someone is elected one year and not invested till the following year, and that third-party sources may conflate the two events. The article should specify which date is given for each name; ideally listing both where different. jnestorius( talk) 18:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC) reply

Edna O'Brien was missing, so I added her, but I am not sure if I got the distinction between the election and investiture dates right. The source on the Aosdana website mentions there was a ceremony to celebrate her election in 2015, though. Detritus2 ( talk) 14:36, 19 October 2017 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

References

I added references and additional info, therefore I removed the stub and cite references tags. Hopefully this suffices and everyone agrees the article is better. Let me know if you feel more needs to be done. Keithh ( talk) 18:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC) reply

John McGahern

I am not convinced John McGahern was a Saoi.

Evidence for
Evidence against
  • Aosdána biography does not mention
  • I checked all the Arts Council annual reports ( available here and here) and AFAIK the election of every new Saoi is noted in the relevant year; but McGahern is not noted. The 2004 Aosdána report does not lists McGahern as a Saoi: "There are never more than five Saoithe at any one time. In 2004 they were Louis le Brocquy, Anthony Cronin, Seamus Heaney and Benedict Kiely. " The 2006 Arts Council report notes his death but doesn't mention Aosdána at all. The 2005 Arts Council report says there was a separate Aosdána report for 2005, which I can't find online. It's just possible McGahern was elected Saoi that year. But I would expect some google news archive hits for such an event. jnestorius( talk) 18:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC) reply
  • Arts Council press release on his death does not mention; I have removed him from the List. jnestorius( talk) 11:19, 4 February 2015 (UTC) reply

Year of election and investiture

The Arts Council Annual Reports ( available here and here) give the year of election and/or investiture of new Saoithe; sometimes these are a year earlier or later than those given in the Wikipedia page. I surmise that sometimes someone is elected one year and not invested till the following year, and that third-party sources may conflate the two events. The article should specify which date is given for each name; ideally listing both where different. jnestorius( talk) 18:27, 2 February 2015 (UTC) reply

Edna O'Brien was missing, so I added her, but I am not sure if I got the distinction between the election and investiture dates right. The source on the Aosdana website mentions there was a ceremony to celebrate her election in 2015, though. Detritus2 ( talk) 14:36, 19 October 2017 (UTC) reply


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