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Ambi claims that the "allegations" against Nguyen are not made by the people listed. Not so, there are very general allegations anyway with no evidence from a reporter and then a series of Nguyen's factional opponents making variously negative and general statements about stacking. You can't have it both ways. It's either about Nguyen or it's not. If the link is to stay, then the reference should be put in its full context so it does not mislead readers. Ambi professes on her user page not to be a member of a political party, implying she has no political agenda. I believe that claim sits uncomfortably with her constant reverting of this and other articles about ALP figures. DarrenRay 03:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I made a point of linking the programme in the article and reading it. I think that the allegations are fairly vague at best and were purported to have come from some unnamed people so I have concerns about the analysis that has been added. Garglebutt / (talk) 04:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC) "I think that the allegations are fairly vague at best." I think that says it all really and goes to Darren's point which is that it's either relevant and substantial or it isn't. It seems not to be anything other than POV, from people who think every Jew, Chinese person, Arab, Cambodian or whatever in the ALP must be part of some branchstacking nonsense. The link should be explained in full and explained or the claim removed. I personally don't like deleting without good reason, but in this case there probably is good reason to delete the lot. What do others think? -- 2006BC 05:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I think this guy is pretty non-notable and the only reason I'm not suggesting deletion is that in principle we keep articles on Australian politicians. That said, let's not over state their achievements; he's had a fair run and done little so comments to that effect are not POV. Garglebutt / (talk) 06:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Can we please avoid emotive and sensationalist language in this article. I have removed it. DarrenRay 09:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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Ambi claims that the "allegations" against Nguyen are not made by the people listed. Not so, there are very general allegations anyway with no evidence from a reporter and then a series of Nguyen's factional opponents making variously negative and general statements about stacking. You can't have it both ways. It's either about Nguyen or it's not. If the link is to stay, then the reference should be put in its full context so it does not mislead readers. Ambi professes on her user page not to be a member of a political party, implying she has no political agenda. I believe that claim sits uncomfortably with her constant reverting of this and other articles about ALP figures. DarrenRay 03:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I made a point of linking the programme in the article and reading it. I think that the allegations are fairly vague at best and were purported to have come from some unnamed people so I have concerns about the analysis that has been added. Garglebutt / (talk) 04:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC) "I think that the allegations are fairly vague at best." I think that says it all really and goes to Darren's point which is that it's either relevant and substantial or it isn't. It seems not to be anything other than POV, from people who think every Jew, Chinese person, Arab, Cambodian or whatever in the ALP must be part of some branchstacking nonsense. The link should be explained in full and explained or the claim removed. I personally don't like deleting without good reason, but in this case there probably is good reason to delete the lot. What do others think? -- 2006BC 05:00, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I think this guy is pretty non-notable and the only reason I'm not suggesting deletion is that in principle we keep articles on Australian politicians. That said, let's not over state their achievements; he's had a fair run and done little so comments to that effect are not POV. Garglebutt / (talk) 06:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Can we please avoid emotive and sensationalist language in this article. I have removed it. DarrenRay 09:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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