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2007 Masters Golf Tournament winner Zach Johnson is listed as here residing in Sanford, but his Wikipedia article says he lives in Lake Mary, FL nearby. Anyone know for certain which it is? John ISEM 13:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
The history cited is exclusively from its military past, not what one hears and sees through reading or in the town's museums and historic district.
It is stated that "war and disease had decimated the [Timacuran] tribe". There was no "war", only a vicious colonial invasion that killed, enslaved and subjugated a significant tribal group, breaking their spirit and compromising the ability of their immune systems to withstand disease. The last one from the sizable tribal group - up to three-quarters of a million - died 200 years after first contact. Resistance to foreign disease would be expected in the ensuing five-generation span under normal conditions.
Lowell W ( talk) 11:59, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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Hey, so the crime "rate" listed is wrong. Those are the actual numbers of crimes committed, not the rate. The source just lists the numbers of crimes and not the rate of crime. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.29.162 ( talk) 04:52, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Funny how the demographics section of this page was removed in light of the Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman controversy. Remember? Because I sure remember seeing the page and saving it five hours ago. This link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanford,_Florida#Demographics
Oops.
Remember, those pesky demographics that show the city is over 50% Black and Hispanic? But I guess that wouldn't be in line with Wikipedia's anti-White agenda now would it?
Wiki: Your bias is showing again!
Jasonridder ( talk) 08:11, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Then look between midnight and 1AM last night and stop pretending it didn't happen. I took a screen capture. Now do you want me to post that on here or do you care to retract your statement?
Jasonridder ( talk) 20:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
The current article offers no references, This is an ongoing situation, and only FACTS need to be described. Unless there are reliable references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.53.11 ( talk) 03:10, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Agreed, and the current revision is acceptable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.53.11 ( talk) 03:54, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Remember that this town was here 200 years before this terrible situation, and it will be there 200 years afterward. The page should reflect what is known rather than what we don't know yet. Abe Froman ( talk) 05:18, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
"On February 26, 2012, Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student, was walking home when George Zimmerman, a Neighborhood Watch member, proceeded to follow him. Trayvon, allegedly afraid of Zimmerman, ran away and hid from Zimmerman." Wow! This couldn't be further from the facts as we know them. How biased can you get? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbowers ( talk • contribs) 12:40, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Made a change to the opening sentence. The original read: "On February 26, 2012, Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student, was walking to his home at The Retreat at Twin Lakes when George Zimmerman, a self-proclaimed Neighborhood Watch member, proceeded to follow him." This is problematic for two reasons: one, the home was NOT Martin's home; he was only visiting. Second, "self-appointed" seems like a biased word to use, given the confusion surrounding the community's actual Neighborhood Watch status. Reference the main article for this event: the National Sheriff's Association claimed there was no official Neighborhood Watch, the local police department claimed there, and Zimmerman's own assessment varied from "captain" to "member" to claiming that he wasn't "on-duty" as Neighborhood Watch that night. What can actually be proven via documentation is that he tried to organize a Neighborhood Watch in the area - whether that effort was a success or failure and his actual status as a member, captain, etc. is irrelevant if we use the word "organizer," which is factual and can be backed up by documentation. 2602:306:375B:9A50:1CC6:7A58:4897:377E ( talk) 19:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Sanford, Florida is not a "hub" of opioid distribution and use in Florida; nor can Sanford in the '21st century' defined by an isolated controversy involving a CVS store which has since been barred from selling Schedule II narcotics to its customers, thereby mitigating the "hub" connotation, if that connotation can be considered at all. In fact, the two references attached to the original edit make no mention of Sanford as a current narcotics 'hub'. However, Florida itself, has been referred to in recent news articles as being part of an "epidemic" concerning the dispensing of prescription medications. Therefore, I removed the original paragraph as reflecting a POV that biases toward one news story, and is not historically relevant or accurate. On the other hand, I let several details stand as part of a recent and notable controversy worthy of news.
Please note, the City of Sanford has accomplished a number of pro-city achievements in the 21st century that should be mentioned as part of its historical record. For example, the expansion of charter air traffic to Orlando-Sanford International Airport ranking Sanford among the top ten destinations by tourists/travelers from the UK in the United States, the downtown revitalization project---including a complete overhaul of the lakefront and Boardwalk---the closing of one of Sanford's longtime landmarks in the Grand Romance boat cruise, as well as the conversion of Sanford's two year college--Seminole Community---to a four year college.
Does anyone wish to add the above developments to Sanford's 21st Century status? I would be glad to help editorially. Ronsword ( talk) 16:04, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
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I have taken a third opinion request for this page and have reviewed the issues thoroughly. The third opinion process is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of uninvolved eyes. I have made no previous edits on this page that I am aware of and have no known association with the editors involved in this discussion. If you feel that my answer is not appropriate, or not thorough enough I may be contacted to add to it, or an additional third opinion may be sought by replacing the {{3O}} template. I hope this reply is of assistance and I am expressly open to feedback, barnstars, kittens, or trout slaps on my talk page! After doing a bit of digging online, I've come to two conclusions: (1) I don't see why the CVS drug bust should be mentioned at all. Yes, some of the pharmacies were physically located in the city. But, I don't see any indication that this is an ongoing, far-reaching issue. (As a side note, it may be appropriate to include the Zimmerman shooting, only because it has received such enormous publicity.) (2) I believe there should be a mention of the city's extremely high crime rate. From what I've read online, its crime statistics are off the charts.— JoelWhy ( talk) 21:42, 3 April 2012 (UTC) |
From what I've found online, the city is in the top 3% crime rate in the country. So, it's not a matter of looking at Orlando and comparing its crime rate -- it's a matter of the city having more crime than 97% of the nation. But, I don't see any direct connection to the high crime rate and the CVS prescription drug abuse issue. Yes, the FBI investigated; that's their job, they investigate federal crimes. But, we don't have a Wiki mention for every crime they've investigated or made arrests for. JoelWhy ( talk) 12:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
So, I added the not-especially-flattering crime statistics section. As a side note, I found the source rather amusing -- it has a tab for crime Data (showing some pretty gruesome numbers), next to a tab for crime Description (labeling the city one of the nation's most crime-ridden), followed by a tab for Finding a local Realtor. lol! JoelWhy ( talk) 17:33, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I think we need to revise the reference to Sanford's crime rate as being among "the highest in the nation". Please examine this link: http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2010/City_crime_rate_2010-2011_hightolow.pdf. It's the FBI's rankings of crime by city, based on it's "Crime in the United States" report for 2010. The crimes include murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, and motor vehicle theft. There are a number of Florida cities listed in the top 100 rankings, but Sanford doesn't appear to be one of them. I can't find Sanford anywhere on this list, and I invite others to confirm my analysis. Ronsword ( talk) 22:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Please also see this link: http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime5.aspx. It's the least-to-most crime statistics for the smallest metro areas/citys in the United States, populations =>55,000 people, and again, Sanford is not on this list. Ronsword ( talk) 22:54, 4 April 2012 (UTC) Also note, the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program Crime Index was used as the basis for this link. As for the 'bottom 3%' reference provided in the actual Sanford article, it's from Neighborhood Scout, and I can't find where Neighborhood Scout is procuring its information, nor what methodology it uses to arrive at a score of '3' to depict Sanford's crime rate. I would better trust the FBI statistics, linked above. Ronsword ( talk) 23:06, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Please also see Neighborhood Scout link here for top 100 most dangerous cities in the US: http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100dangerous/ Ronsword ( talk) 23:26, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
So, I've tried looking for info on the crime rate with good sources. Various sites (including Neighborhood Scout) appear to take the FBI data (and related statistics) to create rankings. However, I can't find anything to attest to their reliability or notability. I found various blogs referencing the 3% figure, but they are doing so based upon Neighborhood Scout's data. Beyond that, I did find a local news article noting that the city has a "relatively high" crime rate, but no details beyond that.
That being said, I don't think you can really compare Sanford to places like Miami or Orlando. Sanford is a city of 50,000 people. Orlando is 4 to 5 times that size, and that's not counting the hordes of tourists who are always there. Miami is one of the nation's Top 50 most populated cities.
So, I'm not sure how to handle this. I'm fine with taking out the Neighborhood Scout data. But, I don't think we can really include the straight FBI data as it's unhelpful. I mean, if we indicate ".067% of the population will experience a property crime each year" (or whatever) I just don't see how the average reader will take away anything useful from that. Thoughts? JoelWhy ( talk) 12:34, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
"The crime rate in Sanford is above the aggregate national average. Using averages projected per 100,000 population, the murder rate was 5.7 per 100,000; rape 72.6; robberies 332.5; assaults 269.5; burglaries 1,664.6; thefts 4,368.8; auto thefts 401.3; and crimes of arson, 3.8 per 100,000 projected population. Source: http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Sanford-Florida.html." If this is agreeable, I'll publish it. Ronsword ( talk) 15:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC) That language is fine, but I frankly think we should just use your first sentence: "The crime rate in Sanford is above the aggregate national average." Everything else is just too detailed and abstract. I mean, 5.7 murders per 100,000? Without anything to compare it to, it seems meaningless to the average reader. Perhaps if there was a separate Wiki page on "Crime in Sanford" (which isn't warranted), you would include lots of specifics. But, here? I'm thinking a simply 'higher than average' statement, and that's it. If we find a better newspaper article or whatever, we can go into more specifics (e.g. Car thefts have been especially problematic.) What do you think? JoelWhy ( talk) 16:27, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Moved new section from top of page per talk page custom. -- Donald Albury 23:54, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Why is the Town of Goldsboro and its forced annexation to Sanford in 1911 against the will of its African-American inhabitants nowhere mentioned? http://globalgrind.com/news/trayvon-martin-killed-sanford-florida-police-violence-details It's highly relevant to the history of Sanford. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karpaten1 ( talk • contribs) 02:40, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to propose removing the "Recent Controveries" section. I'm not quite sure how a recent news event concerning narcotics being disseminated at a Sanford CVS pharmacy, warrants inclusion in an encyclopedic article about a city and its history. I guess the point is, should an encyclopedic article serve as a news blog for recent events occurring in a city? How, then, do we define what events are included and what are not, and where will such inclusions end? In this vein, one might rightfully ask: why keep the Trayvon Martin reference in the Sanford article? However, I think the latter story reflects a news event of national/global importance, and therefore, should be included somewhere in the article, if only as a brief reference. At the very least, as a link to a more specific article on the Trayvon Martin shooting. By contrast, the CVS news story doesn't refelct a seminal event in the history of Sanford and is only one of many local news stories. What do you think? I'd appreciate feedback:) Ronsword ( talk) 18:12, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
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Change This: Sanford has been the setting for several recent movies, including My Girl (1991), Passenger 57 (1992), Wilder Napalm (1993), and Monster (2003). The Love Your Shorts Film Festival is held in Sanford.
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Miss Mott ( talk) 16:43, 2 August 2014 (UTC) I guess I have to be the source because I was in the video.
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2007 Masters Golf Tournament winner Zach Johnson is listed as here residing in Sanford, but his Wikipedia article says he lives in Lake Mary, FL nearby. Anyone know for certain which it is? John ISEM 13:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
The history cited is exclusively from its military past, not what one hears and sees through reading or in the town's museums and historic district.
It is stated that "war and disease had decimated the [Timacuran] tribe". There was no "war", only a vicious colonial invasion that killed, enslaved and subjugated a significant tribal group, breaking their spirit and compromising the ability of their immune systems to withstand disease. The last one from the sizable tribal group - up to three-quarters of a million - died 200 years after first contact. Resistance to foreign disease would be expected in the ensuing five-generation span under normal conditions.
Lowell W ( talk) 11:59, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
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Hey, so the crime "rate" listed is wrong. Those are the actual numbers of crimes committed, not the rate. The source just lists the numbers of crimes and not the rate of crime. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.29.162 ( talk) 04:52, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Funny how the demographics section of this page was removed in light of the Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman controversy. Remember? Because I sure remember seeing the page and saving it five hours ago. This link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanford,_Florida#Demographics
Oops.
Remember, those pesky demographics that show the city is over 50% Black and Hispanic? But I guess that wouldn't be in line with Wikipedia's anti-White agenda now would it?
Wiki: Your bias is showing again!
Jasonridder ( talk) 08:11, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Then look between midnight and 1AM last night and stop pretending it didn't happen. I took a screen capture. Now do you want me to post that on here or do you care to retract your statement?
Jasonridder ( talk) 20:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
The current article offers no references, This is an ongoing situation, and only FACTS need to be described. Unless there are reliable references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.53.11 ( talk) 03:10, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Agreed, and the current revision is acceptable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.53.11 ( talk) 03:54, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Remember that this town was here 200 years before this terrible situation, and it will be there 200 years afterward. The page should reflect what is known rather than what we don't know yet. Abe Froman ( talk) 05:18, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
"On February 26, 2012, Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student, was walking home when George Zimmerman, a Neighborhood Watch member, proceeded to follow him. Trayvon, allegedly afraid of Zimmerman, ran away and hid from Zimmerman." Wow! This couldn't be further from the facts as we know them. How biased can you get? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbowers ( talk • contribs) 12:40, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
Made a change to the opening sentence. The original read: "On February 26, 2012, Trayvon Martin, a 17-year-old high school student, was walking to his home at The Retreat at Twin Lakes when George Zimmerman, a self-proclaimed Neighborhood Watch member, proceeded to follow him." This is problematic for two reasons: one, the home was NOT Martin's home; he was only visiting. Second, "self-appointed" seems like a biased word to use, given the confusion surrounding the community's actual Neighborhood Watch status. Reference the main article for this event: the National Sheriff's Association claimed there was no official Neighborhood Watch, the local police department claimed there, and Zimmerman's own assessment varied from "captain" to "member" to claiming that he wasn't "on-duty" as Neighborhood Watch that night. What can actually be proven via documentation is that he tried to organize a Neighborhood Watch in the area - whether that effort was a success or failure and his actual status as a member, captain, etc. is irrelevant if we use the word "organizer," which is factual and can be backed up by documentation. 2602:306:375B:9A50:1CC6:7A58:4897:377E ( talk) 19:05, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Sanford, Florida is not a "hub" of opioid distribution and use in Florida; nor can Sanford in the '21st century' defined by an isolated controversy involving a CVS store which has since been barred from selling Schedule II narcotics to its customers, thereby mitigating the "hub" connotation, if that connotation can be considered at all. In fact, the two references attached to the original edit make no mention of Sanford as a current narcotics 'hub'. However, Florida itself, has been referred to in recent news articles as being part of an "epidemic" concerning the dispensing of prescription medications. Therefore, I removed the original paragraph as reflecting a POV that biases toward one news story, and is not historically relevant or accurate. On the other hand, I let several details stand as part of a recent and notable controversy worthy of news.
Please note, the City of Sanford has accomplished a number of pro-city achievements in the 21st century that should be mentioned as part of its historical record. For example, the expansion of charter air traffic to Orlando-Sanford International Airport ranking Sanford among the top ten destinations by tourists/travelers from the UK in the United States, the downtown revitalization project---including a complete overhaul of the lakefront and Boardwalk---the closing of one of Sanford's longtime landmarks in the Grand Romance boat cruise, as well as the conversion of Sanford's two year college--Seminole Community---to a four year college.
Does anyone wish to add the above developments to Sanford's 21st Century status? I would be glad to help editorially. Ronsword ( talk) 16:04, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
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I have taken a third opinion request for this page and have reviewed the issues thoroughly. The third opinion process is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of uninvolved eyes. I have made no previous edits on this page that I am aware of and have no known association with the editors involved in this discussion. If you feel that my answer is not appropriate, or not thorough enough I may be contacted to add to it, or an additional third opinion may be sought by replacing the {{3O}} template. I hope this reply is of assistance and I am expressly open to feedback, barnstars, kittens, or trout slaps on my talk page! After doing a bit of digging online, I've come to two conclusions: (1) I don't see why the CVS drug bust should be mentioned at all. Yes, some of the pharmacies were physically located in the city. But, I don't see any indication that this is an ongoing, far-reaching issue. (As a side note, it may be appropriate to include the Zimmerman shooting, only because it has received such enormous publicity.) (2) I believe there should be a mention of the city's extremely high crime rate. From what I've read online, its crime statistics are off the charts.— JoelWhy ( talk) 21:42, 3 April 2012 (UTC) |
From what I've found online, the city is in the top 3% crime rate in the country. So, it's not a matter of looking at Orlando and comparing its crime rate -- it's a matter of the city having more crime than 97% of the nation. But, I don't see any direct connection to the high crime rate and the CVS prescription drug abuse issue. Yes, the FBI investigated; that's their job, they investigate federal crimes. But, we don't have a Wiki mention for every crime they've investigated or made arrests for. JoelWhy ( talk) 12:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
So, I added the not-especially-flattering crime statistics section. As a side note, I found the source rather amusing -- it has a tab for crime Data (showing some pretty gruesome numbers), next to a tab for crime Description (labeling the city one of the nation's most crime-ridden), followed by a tab for Finding a local Realtor. lol! JoelWhy ( talk) 17:33, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I think we need to revise the reference to Sanford's crime rate as being among "the highest in the nation". Please examine this link: http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2010/City_crime_rate_2010-2011_hightolow.pdf. It's the FBI's rankings of crime by city, based on it's "Crime in the United States" report for 2010. The crimes include murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary, and motor vehicle theft. There are a number of Florida cities listed in the top 100 rankings, but Sanford doesn't appear to be one of them. I can't find Sanford anywhere on this list, and I invite others to confirm my analysis. Ronsword ( talk) 22:46, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Please also see this link: http://www.bestplaces.net/docs/studies/crime5.aspx. It's the least-to-most crime statistics for the smallest metro areas/citys in the United States, populations =>55,000 people, and again, Sanford is not on this list. Ronsword ( talk) 22:54, 4 April 2012 (UTC) Also note, the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program Crime Index was used as the basis for this link. As for the 'bottom 3%' reference provided in the actual Sanford article, it's from Neighborhood Scout, and I can't find where Neighborhood Scout is procuring its information, nor what methodology it uses to arrive at a score of '3' to depict Sanford's crime rate. I would better trust the FBI statistics, linked above. Ronsword ( talk) 23:06, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Please also see Neighborhood Scout link here for top 100 most dangerous cities in the US: http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/crime-rates/top100dangerous/ Ronsword ( talk) 23:26, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
So, I've tried looking for info on the crime rate with good sources. Various sites (including Neighborhood Scout) appear to take the FBI data (and related statistics) to create rankings. However, I can't find anything to attest to their reliability or notability. I found various blogs referencing the 3% figure, but they are doing so based upon Neighborhood Scout's data. Beyond that, I did find a local news article noting that the city has a "relatively high" crime rate, but no details beyond that.
That being said, I don't think you can really compare Sanford to places like Miami or Orlando. Sanford is a city of 50,000 people. Orlando is 4 to 5 times that size, and that's not counting the hordes of tourists who are always there. Miami is one of the nation's Top 50 most populated cities.
So, I'm not sure how to handle this. I'm fine with taking out the Neighborhood Scout data. But, I don't think we can really include the straight FBI data as it's unhelpful. I mean, if we indicate ".067% of the population will experience a property crime each year" (or whatever) I just don't see how the average reader will take away anything useful from that. Thoughts? JoelWhy ( talk) 12:34, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
"The crime rate in Sanford is above the aggregate national average. Using averages projected per 100,000 population, the murder rate was 5.7 per 100,000; rape 72.6; robberies 332.5; assaults 269.5; burglaries 1,664.6; thefts 4,368.8; auto thefts 401.3; and crimes of arson, 3.8 per 100,000 projected population. Source: http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Sanford-Florida.html." If this is agreeable, I'll publish it. Ronsword ( talk) 15:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC) That language is fine, but I frankly think we should just use your first sentence: "The crime rate in Sanford is above the aggregate national average." Everything else is just too detailed and abstract. I mean, 5.7 murders per 100,000? Without anything to compare it to, it seems meaningless to the average reader. Perhaps if there was a separate Wiki page on "Crime in Sanford" (which isn't warranted), you would include lots of specifics. But, here? I'm thinking a simply 'higher than average' statement, and that's it. If we find a better newspaper article or whatever, we can go into more specifics (e.g. Car thefts have been especially problematic.) What do you think? JoelWhy ( talk) 16:27, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Moved new section from top of page per talk page custom. -- Donald Albury 23:54, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Why is the Town of Goldsboro and its forced annexation to Sanford in 1911 against the will of its African-American inhabitants nowhere mentioned? http://globalgrind.com/news/trayvon-martin-killed-sanford-florida-police-violence-details It's highly relevant to the history of Sanford. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karpaten1 ( talk • contribs) 02:40, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to propose removing the "Recent Controveries" section. I'm not quite sure how a recent news event concerning narcotics being disseminated at a Sanford CVS pharmacy, warrants inclusion in an encyclopedic article about a city and its history. I guess the point is, should an encyclopedic article serve as a news blog for recent events occurring in a city? How, then, do we define what events are included and what are not, and where will such inclusions end? In this vein, one might rightfully ask: why keep the Trayvon Martin reference in the Sanford article? However, I think the latter story reflects a news event of national/global importance, and therefore, should be included somewhere in the article, if only as a brief reference. At the very least, as a link to a more specific article on the Trayvon Martin shooting. By contrast, the CVS news story doesn't refelct a seminal event in the history of Sanford and is only one of many local news stories. What do you think? I'd appreciate feedback:) Ronsword ( talk) 18:12, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
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To This: Sanford has been the setting for several recent movies and a gospel music video, including My Girl (1991), Passenger 57 (1992), Wilder Napalm (1993), Matinee (2003), and Monster (2003); I May Be Hoppin by Win Thompkins and the Stompers (2012). The Love Your Shorts Film Festival is held in Sanford.
Miss Mott ( talk) 16:43, 2 August 2014 (UTC) I guess I have to be the source because I was in the video.