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Bad writing. Long lists of trivia and inmates. Tacked on sentences that ignore structure. Spam -- advertisements for works by bands recorded at the prison, etc etc. The whole article needs extensive rewriting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.168.237 ( talk) 19:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Anyone think there should be a section of the article about notable events at San Quentin such as the legendary performance of Waiting for Godot or the numerous visits by Johnny Cash? Just a thought. 66.65.51.127 07:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the following absurd section:
If anyone provides a source for this I'll happily apologize for the deletion. - EDM 06:57, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
This page [Stanford_prison_experiment] refers to a riot taking place here, which was particularly significant. This page on the experiment goes into detail:
Our study was terminated on August 20, 1971. The next day, there was an alleged escape attempt at San Quentin. Prisoners in the Maximum Adjustment Center were released from their cells by Soledad brother George Jackson, who had smuggled a gun into the prison. Several guards and some informant prisoners were tortured and murdered during the attempt, but the escape was prevented after the leader was allegedly gunned down while trying to scale the 30-foot high prison walls.
Shouldn't this be mentioned on the page about the prison?
I read a story in the paper this morning about a notable inmate given the death sentence, but was not executed on time as doctors refused to participate in what they thought was an cruel and unusual punishment. If anyone wants to update this, feel free. I lost the article, unfortuneatly, but it was in today's Oregonian. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.21.170.126 ( talk • contribs) 03:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC).
The article have to say something abuot the film "blood in, blood out" that halv of it was filmed in the San Quentin State Prison. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.130.66.1 ( talk • contribs) 04:54, 9 July 2006 (UTC).
Mikhail Markhasev is not at San Quentin. He's at Corcoran State Prison. I dont know how this rumor started. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.177.243 ( talk) 07:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Am I losing it, or did there used to be something on the ground that could be seen as you drove over the Richmond San Rafel Bridge that said "San Quentin Boot Camp?" 69.12.143.197 18:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Just letting ya'll know that I added information about Johnny Cash as well. Hardliner 05:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Were does the name "San Quentin" come from?-- Oliver s. 15:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
He was not the last sex offender/non-murderer executed in the US. I've amended the information accordingly.
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If anyone's interested, I've proposed a new wikiproject for the creation and improvement of articles regarding specific prisons, internment camps, and detention centers here. -- Cdogsimmons ( talk) 02:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I see there's some question about the value of the site. 250M vs. 100M. I was under the impression that the 100M figure listed in the intro paragraph refers to just the prison itself, the structures and buildings. The 275M figure would be the total value of the land based on the current real estate market. Can anyone else verify this? SaintHammett ( talk) 16:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
The Governor is considering selling San Quentin to help pay for the budget deficit. -- 63.139.174.185 ( talk) 16:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I find it difficult to believe every notable prisoner is on deathrow -- 71.131.27.5 ( talk) 01:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Who is the current Sheriff of San Quentin? 92.13.155.25 ( talk) 06:07, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
There is no citation or detail for "Bob Dylan recorded an album in San Quentin" Cleshne ( talk) 15:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
This image http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/lilboomer01/ScreenHunter_016.jpg could be used as the basis of a map of San Quentin WhisperToMe ( talk) 19:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Peep this: Films set in San Quentin State Prison. -- JeffreyBillings ( talk) 18:13, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
I see the heading has been changed from “Notable inmates” to “Notorious inmates”. While I agree that “notorious” is a more appropriate heading for the great majority of people listed, I also noticed one inmate, Leo Gordon, who was only sentenced to 4 years (his article says he served 5), and another, Bruce Lisker, who was wrongly convicted. Gordon was “notable” because of his subsequent achievements, but did his crime rise to the level of “notorious”? And is it fair to describe the probably innocent Lisker as “notorious”? I would therefore prefer the heading to be changed back to “Notable inmates”, unless someone has a better idea. TheTruth-2009 ( talk) 10:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
There are a few in the list who are redlinked. Surely the same rule of validity applies as that which we use for disambiguation pages: if they're not notable enough to have a Wikipedia page, they're not really, well, notable. Does anyone have an objection to me deleting any which doesn't have a blue link to either his name or, at the very least, some specific detail about his crime? ~dom Kaos~ ( talk) 21:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
The prison population has been updated from the 2008 figure to the 2013 figure. While in general I agree that articles should have current figures, in this specific case the figures reveal something important, namely that the prison is overcrowded - and the overcrowding in 2008 was even worse than it is now. That is worthy of mention. The two figures could either be given together, or the 2008 figure could be included in the History section where overcrowding is also already mentioned. Also, is it really necessary for the figure to be given twice in the same short paragraph? TheTruth-2009 ( talk) 05:09, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I'ved added an inline citation from an article that was published yesterday by Gunernica ( http://www.guernicamag.com/daily/jessica-pishko-the-news-from-san-quentin-part-1/). I think the piece (after the second part is published) may be worth expanding on.
Any thoughts on expanding the statement about the newspaper? Best, Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 19:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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Is there some compelling reason this article makes no mention of Leo Stanley and his tenure at San Quentin? Even simply a link to the already existing wikipedia page on "Unethical human experimentation in the us" would suffice, and it's a pretty important part of the place's history to leave out.(I forgot my login otherwise I'd sign with more than and IP) 173.46.103.226 ( talk) 05:22, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Why are we putting the state abbreviation code in the lede? it seems odd to me. maybe im wrong. 2602:304:CFD0:6350:686F:6BF0:E76A:2F07 ( talk) 06:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
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At the time of this writing, Juan Corona's section within the "Former"-section of the "Notable inmates"-section of this article says that he is currently at Corcoran State Prison. However, according to Juan Corona's article (at the time of this writing), he died March 4, 2019. If he has died, shouldn't the stuff about him currently being at Corcoran State Prison be rephrased? Or is his dead body still at Corcoran State Prison? Heart of Destruction ( talk) 08:12, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
I found https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53476208 WhisperToMe ( talk) 12:14, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
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At the time of this writing, Roger Kibbe's section within the "Former"-section of the "Notable inmates"-section of this article says that he is currently incarcerated in Mule Creek State Prison. However, according to Roger Kibbe's article (at the time of this writing), he died February 28, 2021. If he has died, shouldn't the stuff about him currently being incarcerated in Mule Creek State Prison be rephrased? Or is his dead body still at Mule Creek State Prison? Heart of Destruction ( talk) 13:21, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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Bad writing. Long lists of trivia and inmates. Tacked on sentences that ignore structure. Spam -- advertisements for works by bands recorded at the prison, etc etc. The whole article needs extensive rewriting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.168.237 ( talk) 19:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Anyone think there should be a section of the article about notable events at San Quentin such as the legendary performance of Waiting for Godot or the numerous visits by Johnny Cash? Just a thought. 66.65.51.127 07:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the following absurd section:
If anyone provides a source for this I'll happily apologize for the deletion. - EDM 06:57, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
This page [Stanford_prison_experiment] refers to a riot taking place here, which was particularly significant. This page on the experiment goes into detail:
Our study was terminated on August 20, 1971. The next day, there was an alleged escape attempt at San Quentin. Prisoners in the Maximum Adjustment Center were released from their cells by Soledad brother George Jackson, who had smuggled a gun into the prison. Several guards and some informant prisoners were tortured and murdered during the attempt, but the escape was prevented after the leader was allegedly gunned down while trying to scale the 30-foot high prison walls.
Shouldn't this be mentioned on the page about the prison?
I read a story in the paper this morning about a notable inmate given the death sentence, but was not executed on time as doctors refused to participate in what they thought was an cruel and unusual punishment. If anyone wants to update this, feel free. I lost the article, unfortuneatly, but it was in today's Oregonian. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.21.170.126 ( talk • contribs) 03:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC).
The article have to say something abuot the film "blood in, blood out" that halv of it was filmed in the San Quentin State Prison. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.130.66.1 ( talk • contribs) 04:54, 9 July 2006 (UTC).
Mikhail Markhasev is not at San Quentin. He's at Corcoran State Prison. I dont know how this rumor started. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.177.243 ( talk) 07:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Am I losing it, or did there used to be something on the ground that could be seen as you drove over the Richmond San Rafel Bridge that said "San Quentin Boot Camp?" 69.12.143.197 18:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Just letting ya'll know that I added information about Johnny Cash as well. Hardliner 05:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Were does the name "San Quentin" come from?-- Oliver s. 15:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
He was not the last sex offender/non-murderer executed in the US. I've amended the information accordingly.
smb2a 04:32, 08 June 2008 (UTC)
If anyone's interested, I've proposed a new wikiproject for the creation and improvement of articles regarding specific prisons, internment camps, and detention centers here. -- Cdogsimmons ( talk) 02:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I see there's some question about the value of the site. 250M vs. 100M. I was under the impression that the 100M figure listed in the intro paragraph refers to just the prison itself, the structures and buildings. The 275M figure would be the total value of the land based on the current real estate market. Can anyone else verify this? SaintHammett ( talk) 16:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
The Governor is considering selling San Quentin to help pay for the budget deficit. -- 63.139.174.185 ( talk) 16:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I find it difficult to believe every notable prisoner is on deathrow -- 71.131.27.5 ( talk) 01:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Who is the current Sheriff of San Quentin? 92.13.155.25 ( talk) 06:07, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
There is no citation or detail for "Bob Dylan recorded an album in San Quentin" Cleshne ( talk) 15:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
This image http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/lilboomer01/ScreenHunter_016.jpg could be used as the basis of a map of San Quentin WhisperToMe ( talk) 19:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Peep this: Films set in San Quentin State Prison. -- JeffreyBillings ( talk) 18:13, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
I see the heading has been changed from “Notable inmates” to “Notorious inmates”. While I agree that “notorious” is a more appropriate heading for the great majority of people listed, I also noticed one inmate, Leo Gordon, who was only sentenced to 4 years (his article says he served 5), and another, Bruce Lisker, who was wrongly convicted. Gordon was “notable” because of his subsequent achievements, but did his crime rise to the level of “notorious”? And is it fair to describe the probably innocent Lisker as “notorious”? I would therefore prefer the heading to be changed back to “Notable inmates”, unless someone has a better idea. TheTruth-2009 ( talk) 10:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
There are a few in the list who are redlinked. Surely the same rule of validity applies as that which we use for disambiguation pages: if they're not notable enough to have a Wikipedia page, they're not really, well, notable. Does anyone have an objection to me deleting any which doesn't have a blue link to either his name or, at the very least, some specific detail about his crime? ~dom Kaos~ ( talk) 21:13, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
The prison population has been updated from the 2008 figure to the 2013 figure. While in general I agree that articles should have current figures, in this specific case the figures reveal something important, namely that the prison is overcrowded - and the overcrowding in 2008 was even worse than it is now. That is worthy of mention. The two figures could either be given together, or the 2008 figure could be included in the History section where overcrowding is also already mentioned. Also, is it really necessary for the figure to be given twice in the same short paragraph? TheTruth-2009 ( talk) 05:09, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
I'ved added an inline citation from an article that was published yesterday by Gunernica ( http://www.guernicamag.com/daily/jessica-pishko-the-news-from-san-quentin-part-1/). I think the piece (after the second part is published) may be worth expanding on.
Any thoughts on expanding the statement about the newspaper? Best, Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 19:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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Is there some compelling reason this article makes no mention of Leo Stanley and his tenure at San Quentin? Even simply a link to the already existing wikipedia page on "Unethical human experimentation in the us" would suffice, and it's a pretty important part of the place's history to leave out.(I forgot my login otherwise I'd sign with more than and IP) 173.46.103.226 ( talk) 05:22, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Why are we putting the state abbreviation code in the lede? it seems odd to me. maybe im wrong. 2602:304:CFD0:6350:686F:6BF0:E76A:2F07 ( talk) 06:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
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At the time of this writing, Juan Corona's section within the "Former"-section of the "Notable inmates"-section of this article says that he is currently at Corcoran State Prison. However, according to Juan Corona's article (at the time of this writing), he died March 4, 2019. If he has died, shouldn't the stuff about him currently being at Corcoran State Prison be rephrased? Or is his dead body still at Corcoran State Prison? Heart of Destruction ( talk) 08:12, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
I found https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53476208 WhisperToMe ( talk) 12:14, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
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At the time of this writing, Roger Kibbe's section within the "Former"-section of the "Notable inmates"-section of this article says that he is currently incarcerated in Mule Creek State Prison. However, according to Roger Kibbe's article (at the time of this writing), he died February 28, 2021. If he has died, shouldn't the stuff about him currently being incarcerated in Mule Creek State Prison be rephrased? Or is his dead body still at Mule Creek State Prison? Heart of Destruction ( talk) 13:21, 22 March 2021 (UTC)