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That map you've got there is just *wrong*. The 710 freeway in no way continues to the 210 freeway and that is clear from an image associated with the Long Beach Freeway article located here. The representation of the San Gabriel Valley is weird and skewed. It looks like you've put it way into the Angeles National Forest on the east end and don't even include Pasadena north of Interstate 210 or Altadena. Plus, South Pasadena is part of the San Gabriel Valley on the west end. Arguably, your map should also include San Dimas, Pomona, California, Claremont, California, La Verne and Diamond Bar in the east. Ingyhere 01:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Also, where are the citations for your definition of the San Gabriel Valley? Is this arbitrary, from a USGS definition, from a Census definition or from a governnmental definition (as in Los Angeles County)? Where is Cal Poly? Why is Rio Hondo College listed when Whittier isn't even part of the San Gabriel Valley? There are too many statements in this article missing basic citations or the foundations from other citations.
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01:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I've worked on this article exclusively. It was part of my thesis paper on urban development during my university years. However, given the short attention spans of many people, I tried to make the Wikipedia article as less "scholarly" as possible and spruce it up by adding tourist sites etc.
It is my hope to include some in-depth analysis on the changing face of the San Gabriel Valley and what it means for the United States (as well as cite the sources I've been using) on my own Web site.
S.
I have deleted the reference to University of the West as being "for profit." It is a non profit school. You can view the university's catalog on its Web page (www.uwest.edu), where it states the schools non profit status. - JK
The end of the timeline says White Flight is from 1980s to present day. What proof is there that there is still White flight in the area? I believe whites are now moving because housing is cheaper further east outside San Gabriel Valley, then becuase whites are moving becuase the area is getting non-white, which was the case in the past, but not really now. The area has been mostly hispanic and asian for years now, I know I live in La Puente, in the heart of the San Gabriel Valley. What signifies the end of this so called "White flight"? -- AlexTheMartian | Talk 02:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Removed, from the bullshit paragraph "Walmartization" the following "Due to wide spread public opposition" due to POV and it being blatantly bullshit. Please resubmit with reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.157.32 ( talk) 16:37, 7 April 2007
Sensei48 ( talk) 22:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
At the head of the Talk page are several posts by someone who identifies him/herself as S and who claims authorship of much of this article.
a) S clearly is not an experienced Wikipedian - not of itself any particular kind of failing - but creating or substantially altering an article here without either regard for the processes or conventions of this site is at least ill-advised and at worst an outright affront to those who do. b) S includes not a single source, which accounts for both the outright ignorance and blatant POV of large sections of this article. And speaking of arrogant and offensive remarks - S accounts for said sourceless writing by asserting "the short attention spans of many people." Such a comment in and of itself ought to be grounds for an editing ban and deletion of this article - but Wiki is more tolerant than I would be.
S admits that s/he is not a resident of SGV and asserts that the content of this article results from a university paper, some driving visits, and conversations with unnamed local officials. As a college teacher for 36 years in the SGV - and a resident of SGV (Monterey Park and Alhambra, to be exact) during most of that time - I can only say that I hope S's paper failed, or at least was returned with the charge of doing a more thorough and accurate job.
I have considered nominating this as WP:AFD - it's that bad. But the more common Wiki course is to work to improve the article - in this case, a genuinely Herculean job. Hence...the single step above of removing a small bit of utterly irrelevant information.
Assuredly more to come. Sensei48 ( talk) 23:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
It does not snow in the San G valley, unless you can provide a source you can write that but until then you cant! And also those types of temperatures can not support snow, the SG valley rarly goes below frezzing and when it does its when there's clear skies, frost occurs but no snow, Sorry! itzzHouse1090duhh ( talk) 04:19, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Does this REALLY contribute to the article? Forbes "Most Expensive ZIP Codes"' published in 2008 features nine ZIPs within the San Gabriel Valley that rank within the top 500 cities with the most expensive homes in the United States. [1]
References
In its original form, the article would have you believe that Pasadena and the Asian culture are the predominant subjects of the San Gabriel Valley. It's colorful history was condensed to a "timeline". Citations are almost non-existent. There is a tremendous amount of work to be done in this project. It is disturbing that such a skewed article was allowed to stand for such a long time. Objective editing would be much appreciated, if any other editor would like to team up. DocOfSoc ( talk) 13:29, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
"I've worked on this article exclusively. It was part of my thesis paper on urban development during my university years." I would have given this article a "D" but now it makes sense now. DocOfSoc ( talk) 13:46, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Metrolink extension I saved the link because it will be important if the new football stadium gets built, but not untill then. TY for popping in I appreciate it! Namaste-- DocOfSoc ( talk) 12:41, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
It seems somewhat unhelpful that there isn't a clear map of the region on the page. Does anybody think they could take the Wikimedia map of LA County and highlight the San Gabriel Valley area?-- Prisencolinensinainciusol ( talk) 23:57, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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Are we seriously going to call the Spanish colonial name the native name? This needs to be fixed and replaced with the Tongva name. I'm having trouble finding it, unfortunately. Udibi ( talk) 09:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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That map you've got there is just *wrong*. The 710 freeway in no way continues to the 210 freeway and that is clear from an image associated with the Long Beach Freeway article located here. The representation of the San Gabriel Valley is weird and skewed. It looks like you've put it way into the Angeles National Forest on the east end and don't even include Pasadena north of Interstate 210 or Altadena. Plus, South Pasadena is part of the San Gabriel Valley on the west end. Arguably, your map should also include San Dimas, Pomona, California, Claremont, California, La Verne and Diamond Bar in the east. Ingyhere 01:34, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Also, where are the citations for your definition of the San Gabriel Valley? Is this arbitrary, from a USGS definition, from a Census definition or from a governnmental definition (as in Los Angeles County)? Where is Cal Poly? Why is Rio Hondo College listed when Whittier isn't even part of the San Gabriel Valley? There are too many statements in this article missing basic citations or the foundations from other citations.
Ingyhere
01:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I've worked on this article exclusively. It was part of my thesis paper on urban development during my university years. However, given the short attention spans of many people, I tried to make the Wikipedia article as less "scholarly" as possible and spruce it up by adding tourist sites etc.
It is my hope to include some in-depth analysis on the changing face of the San Gabriel Valley and what it means for the United States (as well as cite the sources I've been using) on my own Web site.
S.
I have deleted the reference to University of the West as being "for profit." It is a non profit school. You can view the university's catalog on its Web page (www.uwest.edu), where it states the schools non profit status. - JK
The end of the timeline says White Flight is from 1980s to present day. What proof is there that there is still White flight in the area? I believe whites are now moving because housing is cheaper further east outside San Gabriel Valley, then becuase whites are moving becuase the area is getting non-white, which was the case in the past, but not really now. The area has been mostly hispanic and asian for years now, I know I live in La Puente, in the heart of the San Gabriel Valley. What signifies the end of this so called "White flight"? -- AlexTheMartian | Talk 02:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Removed, from the bullshit paragraph "Walmartization" the following "Due to wide spread public opposition" due to POV and it being blatantly bullshit. Please resubmit with reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.157.32 ( talk) 16:37, 7 April 2007
Sensei48 ( talk) 22:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
At the head of the Talk page are several posts by someone who identifies him/herself as S and who claims authorship of much of this article.
a) S clearly is not an experienced Wikipedian - not of itself any particular kind of failing - but creating or substantially altering an article here without either regard for the processes or conventions of this site is at least ill-advised and at worst an outright affront to those who do. b) S includes not a single source, which accounts for both the outright ignorance and blatant POV of large sections of this article. And speaking of arrogant and offensive remarks - S accounts for said sourceless writing by asserting "the short attention spans of many people." Such a comment in and of itself ought to be grounds for an editing ban and deletion of this article - but Wiki is more tolerant than I would be.
S admits that s/he is not a resident of SGV and asserts that the content of this article results from a university paper, some driving visits, and conversations with unnamed local officials. As a college teacher for 36 years in the SGV - and a resident of SGV (Monterey Park and Alhambra, to be exact) during most of that time - I can only say that I hope S's paper failed, or at least was returned with the charge of doing a more thorough and accurate job.
I have considered nominating this as WP:AFD - it's that bad. But the more common Wiki course is to work to improve the article - in this case, a genuinely Herculean job. Hence...the single step above of removing a small bit of utterly irrelevant information.
Assuredly more to come. Sensei48 ( talk) 23:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
It does not snow in the San G valley, unless you can provide a source you can write that but until then you cant! And also those types of temperatures can not support snow, the SG valley rarly goes below frezzing and when it does its when there's clear skies, frost occurs but no snow, Sorry! itzzHouse1090duhh ( talk) 04:19, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Does this REALLY contribute to the article? Forbes "Most Expensive ZIP Codes"' published in 2008 features nine ZIPs within the San Gabriel Valley that rank within the top 500 cities with the most expensive homes in the United States. [1]
References
In its original form, the article would have you believe that Pasadena and the Asian culture are the predominant subjects of the San Gabriel Valley. It's colorful history was condensed to a "timeline". Citations are almost non-existent. There is a tremendous amount of work to be done in this project. It is disturbing that such a skewed article was allowed to stand for such a long time. Objective editing would be much appreciated, if any other editor would like to team up. DocOfSoc ( talk) 13:29, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
"I've worked on this article exclusively. It was part of my thesis paper on urban development during my university years." I would have given this article a "D" but now it makes sense now. DocOfSoc ( talk) 13:46, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Metrolink extension I saved the link because it will be important if the new football stadium gets built, but not untill then. TY for popping in I appreciate it! Namaste-- DocOfSoc ( talk) 12:41, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
It seems somewhat unhelpful that there isn't a clear map of the region on the page. Does anybody think they could take the Wikimedia map of LA County and highlight the San Gabriel Valley area?-- Prisencolinensinainciusol ( talk) 23:57, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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Are we seriously going to call the Spanish colonial name the native name? This needs to be fixed and replaced with the Tongva name. I'm having trouble finding it, unfortunately. Udibi ( talk) 09:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC)