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Routunda A has been closed for demolition. US Airways has moved to America West gates. Does anybody know when Terminal 2 will open?
Regarding this edit about restoring baylands and its removal, here are some references from the San Francisco Chronicle:
In sum, it's necessary by law to restore/reclaim/preserve wetlands somewhere else in the Bay Area to offset the area lost due to fill. Perhaps the sentence should have been worded more carefully. -- Minesweeper 00:45, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
What would be nice is if boarding areas were indented. Kinda like this:
-- Jigen III 14:38, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think SFO is part of the City of San Francisco since it is administrated by the city. City boundary doesn't have to be interconnected. It even has its own zip code that belongs to San Francisco -- Will74205 08:44, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
The City and County of San Francisco are coextensive, and the airport is clearly in San Mateo County. I know of a couple of examples of counties that have exclaves ( Arapahoe County, Colorado and Norfolk County, Massachusetts), but San Francisco is not one of them. ZIP codes can provide clues about what is part of a city and what is not, but they can never be trusted by themselves. Why? The U.S. Postal Service is, of course, primarily concerned with efficient mail delivery, not with affirming municipal boundaries. It is very common that areas outside the city limits of a certain city have that city's ZIP codes, as is the case with SFO. The USPS always assigns the name of a city (not a county) to every post office, even if the post office is outside that city. When ZIP codes were being set up, the USPS could have assigned the city names "Millbrae" or "San Bruno" to the ZIP code serving SFO (those being the closest actual cities), but probably to avoid confusion (again, to facilitate efficient mail delivery), the city name "San Francisco" was assigned. ZIP code boundaries quite often do not match city boundaries, and it is also very common that smaller cities near a larger city do not have "their own" ZIP codes, resulting in the impression that the smaller cities are actually part of the larger cities. It is also not unusual for places that are not cities to have "their own" ZIP codes; and conversely, there are many cities (especially newly incorporated ones) that do not have "their own" ZIP codes. The bottom line: ZIP codes are not a reliable determinant of city boundaries. Denvoran 16:15, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
It is not a standard that the first three digits of ZIP codes correlate to county boundaries. Off the top of my head, there are both 840XX and 841XX ZIP codes in Salt Lake County, Utah - and this, even though Salt Lake City is a much smaller urban area than San Francisco and the Peninsula. Regarding the last argument, *if* what you wrote is true, I would suppose that a special agreement has been made between the City & County San Francisco and the County of San Mateo, to the effect that the C&C SF has law enforcement jurisdiction on SFO property. The airport, like unto a city of its own itself, has to have security forces to match - if the airport is owned and operated by the C&C SF, why should the County of San Mateo use its resources to provide law enforcement for such a large entity? Thus, I imagine, an intergovernmental agreement was struck. Bottom line - SFO lies in San Mateo county; it could only become part of the City and County of San Francisco if county boundaries were changed, and this would require action at the state level. It would probably be complicated or costly to make a change in county boundaries; as a result, things are just left as-is, even if it creates a somewhat confusing situation and requires certain intergovernmental agreements. Not lying within any incorporated city, SFO is then of course an unincorporated part of San Mateo County. 205.162.34.253 17:35, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
However, according to USGS topographic maps of the airport, it lies in San Francisco City and County, not in San Mateo. Map source - [www.TopoZone.com] - Check-Six
I'm curious if there is any solid information out there on the closing of the staging area at the south end of the airport, or any efforts to reopen it. I think it was closed down shortly after 9/11 because it would be a good terrorist attack point or something like that, but I know a lot of locals are disappointed because it was a good place to watch planes. TheCharlie 21:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Recently I have been adding (and subtracting) destinations from the United Airlines domestic and international lists after searching through SFO's and United's websites for destinations. However, it seems that while Bangkok (plane change at Tokyo-Narita) is included, Brussels (plane change at Washington-Dulles) and Munich (plane change at Chicago-O'Hare) are not. Also, service to Ho Chi Minh City has a stop at Hong Kong. Is there a standard for inclusion or exclusion? If there is, what is it? Thanks. Physicq210 03:52, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Please leave parentheses around the gate numbers in the subheadings for terminals/boarding areas. There is no formal style standard for this, but I have not seen hyphens used in any other airport articles, and the only other article I could find with gate number ranges ( Philadelphia International Airport) uses parentheses, as do other articles with explanatory material after the terminal name or number, e.g., John F. Kennedy International Airport and Charles de Gaulle International Airport. I don't see any with hyphens. MCB 04:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Please stop adding Shanghai-Pudong to the list of destinations under Air China. Air China does NOT have direct service from SFO to Shanghai-Pudong. Therefore, this destination is not worth mentioning, per WikiProject Airports guidelines. -- Physicq210 02:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
This question has come up before, and there is a lengthy discussion above. However, as someone who lived in San Mateo County from 1971-1973 and 1981-87, it was well known locally (and the subject of newspaper stories, hearings, political developments, etc.) that the airport, while owned and operated by San Francisco, is in fact located in San Mateo County. This was noted in the article for most of its existence. However, Wikipedia policy requires citation to reliable sources, and I was unable to locate an online source to confirm this until recently. I didn't see any place to refer to it in the article and pretty much forgot about it until the article was changed.
The source is an official publication of the County of San Mateo, the County Profile 2006-07 (PDF document), which states: "The San Francisco International Airport (SFO) is located in an unincorporated area of the County. [...] Although SFO is owned and operated by the City and County of San Francisco, it plays a very significant part in the economy of the County." Elsewhere in the document, in a list of the largest employers in the County, it shows United Airlines with 10,328 employees, and the airport itself with 1,179 employees.
I reverted the assertion that SFO is "an enclave of San Mateo County" (which I believe is not quite what the author intended; that should have been "an enclave in San Mateo County" or "an exclave of San Francisco"; see enclave and exclave). I'm not sure why the USGS map would say otherwise; it may be out of date, or else a simple error. In any case I would consider the County's own publication authoritative. -- MCB 04:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it necessary to have two pictures of SFO in the infobox? The first was OK, but the second one is not as good as the first one (in my point of view). However, I did not delete it lest an edit war be started over this. Any suggestions? -- Physicq210 23:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the SFO logo, now that I've changed it to an SVG, the logo's transparent background doesn't fit with the blue background. Is there any way we could have it on very light gray, like with the photo below it? My idea was to model the infobox after the
LAX example.
Gordeonbleu
05:25, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm that United Airlines has nonstop service between SFO and MSP ( Minneapolis/St. Paul)? According to the wikipedia-MSP page, United does not offer SFO-MSP service. However, on airline route maps.com, SFO does fly to MSP. I've tried placing MSP under United Airlines destinations, but something keeps taking it off. Can anyone verify this route? July 18, 2006
Dpes anyone know if the new Columbus-based Skybus Airlines is planning on flying to SFO. An ultra- low cost carrier is really needed since niether Southwest Airlines or Jetblue Airways serve SFO.
This is getting ridiculous. User:24.3.225.234 has constantly added Cancun as a destination for United Airlines, despite constant reverts and numerous warnings on his/her talk page. WikiProject Airports guidelines state:
List non-stop and direct flights only. (emphasis added)
Using www.flysfo.com, united.com, or any similar website will show that Cancun does not fit the above description, hence are not worth mentioning. Please, do NOT add Cancun as a destination until United Airlines does have direct flights from SFO to Cancun (which, as of now, it does not). -- physicq210 04:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Depart: San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Arrive: Cancun, Mexico (CUN)
Distance: 2408mi / 3852km
Duration: 5h20m
Date: July 22, 2006
Leg 1 - United Airlines 1087
Departure San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Departure Time 08:35
Arrival Cancun, Mexico (CUN)
Arrival Time 15:55
Aircraft Type 752
Meal Food for Purchase
Distance 2408mi / 3852km
Duration 5h20m
Operated By United Airlines
Dbinder ( talk) 18:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, according to united.com, there is SFO-CUN service on Saturday only. I apologize for my mistake. -- physicq210 19:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, i do apologize! There is SFO-CUN service on Saturdays only. I only looked up the flight status of the flight. I do apologize for my mistake! But I will never make any edits to this again cause we're all dumb!!! Bucs2004 00:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
This article has come along nicely (even has a featured picture!). However, the references are very light, and this could be a problem. External links can be deleted at will, but references are permanent as long as the information that they are referencing remain in the article. Hence the "Further Reading" section is pretty much the extent of the references, and that is not sufficient. I turned one in-line link into an inline notation for starters, but this needs to be expanded. Particular atention needs to be given to statistics, quotes and specific events (especially on the individual aircraft incidents). For more information on how to improve in this area, see "How and where to cite sources".
On another point, statements like this:
"As such, San Francisco International Airport will probably remain popular but stagnant while its two neighbor airports (Oakland International Airport in Oakland and San Jose International Airport in San Jose) will continue to grow for the time being"
are highly opinionated/ crystal ballish, and need to either substatiated by a reputable outside source, written in a neutral tone or removed. Like "This reputable source has predicted that SFO will..." or "This such and such report showed that since 2002, SFOs traffice has decreased 62%." But, great job so far.-- Esprit15d 13:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
" tags to the major offenders (more than is recommended, but since this article is actively being workied on, I figured they'll be gone soon). Meanwhile, I'm adding it to the Good articles that only lack sources list. This might help out some, since some people volunteer to bring these articles up to speed. OK, one more thing: many of the references you have now probably can verify many of the facts already there. Don't forget (whomever is ready this) that is you put "name=XYZ" in the ref tag, that you can quickly use <ref name=XYZ/> to verify several statements with a single reference.-- Esprit15d 18:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
What happened to the articles about Alaska Airlines Flight 261 and PSA Flight 1771. They were there one minute and gone the next. Since both flights were headed to SFO, I think they should be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.6.251.241 ( talk • contribs)
I recieived this email form a customer service agent from SFO per my question about Terminal 2: "We are currently studying the possiblity of remodling or completely rebuilding the terminal. To my knowledge nothing has been decided at this time and any construction project is years away."
What airlines did Terminal 2 used to serve? Did all UA international arrivals and departures occur there, for instance?
An anon inserted the following text (along with a reference) into the International Terminal section:
In point of fact, the A380 has much the same dimensions as the Boeing 747, apart from wings that are a little longer. Singapore Airlines plans to fly 475-seat versions, not that much different to a B747's capacity (and in fact well below the maximum for a B747). Unless a gate is built to extremely tight specs (such as some of those at LAX, T4 for example) an A380 will be able to use the gate with no problems. Heavier and larger aircraft regularly use commercial airport runways and facilities. I am prepared to say that the gates were intended for extremely large aircraft, but it is incorrect to say that A380s will not be able to use regular gates. -- Jumbo 22:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
(unverified)According to the Air Canada Jazz website, AC Jazz has service to SFO from Vancouver.
-This is true they serve 1 flight on Saturday, good catch! -- 63.202.190.242 00:38, Sep 26, 2006 (UTC)
From the article: "San Francisco is the largest airport in the San Francisco Bay Area". Isn't it the largest in Northern California? Or are we suggesting that Sacramento's is larger (area vs. traffic)? Gordeonbleu 05:57, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
This is an airport. Yes, it has the second highest traffic volume in California, but it is still just an airport. There are thousands of articles that are more significant to the topic of California in general than this one. Does this article "define and determine the subject of the California WikiProject?" I think not. Gentgeen 06:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
According to the fall update on SFO's website, United Express will begin seasonal SFO-Aspen service 3 times a week.
I was just looking on NWA's website an found this...
NWA flight#369
Departs: Chicago-Midway Int'l, IL ( MDW ) Arrives: Minneapolis/St. Paul-Int'l, MN (MSP) Gate: A5 Gate: C13 Scheduled: 12:15PM Scheduled: 1:40PM Actual: Aircraft: A320 Status: On Schedule
Departs: Minneapolis/St. Paul-Int'l, MN (MSP) Arrives: San Francisco-Int'l, CA (SFO) Gate: C13 Gate: 45B Scheduled: 2:40PM Scheduled: 4:38PM Actual: Aircraft: A320 Status: On Schedule
Since it's the same plane, and doesn't change gates in MSP, should it be listed?
I think most Wikipedia airport pages do not list destinations as nonstop if through a hub airport.
Not sure if we are using inline cites for route announcements, but the Jet Airways source is Reuters India, Jet Airways to add Bangkok, U.S. routes, January 9, 2007. -- MCB 21:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I suggest that we need to figure out a definition of "fortress hub" and then cite and source it. Without question, places like CVG/DL and MSP/NW are fortresses, but I would question SFO's status when under 50 percent of the traffic is United. Perhaps this should be taken up at WP:AIRPORTS for more input. FCYTravis 07:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I removed the former routes section due to the following conversations on WikiProject Airports Talk and SeaTac's Talk Page. I don't mean to offend. Thanks -- Matt 23:46, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Former Airlines and Routes of San Francisco International Airport is related to here. Tinlinkin 10:23, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
If Virgin America plans to operate from the International Terminal, then what will happen to Terminal 2? Bucs2004 01:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Please post your comments. Thanks.-- Inetpup 06:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone explain what is notable about listing all the airlines by boarding area, this is Wikipedia not a travel guide. Airlines are normally listed just by Terminals, this gives the reader an idea and scope about each terminals services. They do not need to know from an encylopedia what gate to use! MilborneOne 21:50, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
There has been an ongoing discussion on the Cathay Pacific talk page on whether or not SFO is qualified as a focus city for CX. After reading many comments made by other editors, I don't think that SFO is a focus city for CX. What are your suggestions? Bucs2004 23:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I emailed Cathay Pacific and they said they are planning on adding at least one additional round trip flight between SFO and HKG this fall as well as adding round trip flights from SFO to Singapore and Taipei City by next year. - Robert25
Why is Bangkok not a direct flight from San Francisco? It runs under the same flight number (UA837/838) and an anon user keeps adding San Francisco as a destination for UA on the BKK article. Bucs2004 04:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Why are anon IPs keep seperating domestic and international operations for the International Terminal Boarding Area A section. Wasn't this discussed before? 19:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Corsairfly (Paris-Orly) (Service may restart in 2008/pending govt. approval) [2]
In a nutshell, corsairfly states intrest in resuming the San Fran-Orly Route. Also, they state intrests in doing so on theri desinations page corsairfly destinations
i tried putting that on the page but some people had some problems with it=) just trying to be helpful, and then someone put it as vandalism.
The reason for including this is a good one; unlike all but a handful of airports in the world (perhaps only SFO, LAX, and JFK, maybe also DFW, in the United States), it is most commonly referred to by its three-letter IATA code, as an initialism, by travelers and the general public. (In Chicago, you wouldn't tell a taxi driver to take you to O.R.D.) Removing the sentence because the code appears in the lead and the infobox is inapposite; it's there as a name or nickname for the airport rather than merely as a code. -- MCB ( talk) 21:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
United Express/SkyWest is going to launch SFO-YYJ in June.
A little history lesson: A few months back two editors were fighting on whether there was one or two carousels for domestic/pre-cleared arrivals. I sort of settled it with "let's not worry about the numbers" and it seemed everybody was happy. It's enough details telling that arrivals are separated. The exact carousel numbering is too much. HkCaGu ( talk) 21:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Does Delta still fly that route? I couldn't find any flights on their schedules that reflect this. It was recently added. Audude08 ( talk) 04:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I would have to disagree with mentioning Air Canada anywhere in the Boarding Area A section since AC doesn't operate in the International Terminal.
-- Limaindia ( talk) 00:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I second that, it’s a useful nugget of information to know that Canada operates out of domestic.-- DavidD4scnrt ( talk) 07:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
It says on the Narita International Airport page that United Airlines will be discontinuing services as of March 29, 2008. Can anyone find a reference or clarify this? I can't find anything. Duhhitsminerva ( talk) 07:22, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
It says on this article that the start date for Guangzhou on UA has been changed from "June 18, 2008" to "June 18, 2009". Is this true/correct? Will they still begins flights in June of this year? On United's website, I can still book flights to CAN from SFO on June 18, 2008. 74.183.173.237 ( talk) 23:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I edited T3 section to say most UA domestic flights leave from T3. "All" is incorrect as there are a few flights that leave from the international terminal because the aircraft arrived from an international source (usually an A319 or A320 from Mexico) and they do not want to take the time to reposition it. 69.12.151.50 ( talk) 05:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Is the airline still planning on flying to SFO? 74.183.173.237 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 00:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Old timetables of United (I'm looking at 1935) have airplanes going both to Mills Field and Oakland, so this statement from the article would seem to be incorrect: "After the war, United Airlines took up residence at SFO." -- From the 1935 timetable "All United Air Lines planes in Coast-to-Coast and Coastwise service arrive and depart from both San Francisco (Mills Field) and Oakland Municipal Airports, thus eliminating cross Bay ferry trip." JoeD80 ( talk) 21:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The Airport's zip code is officially considered to be 94128 as stated on their website. Therefore, the airport should be classified as within the city and county of San Francisco, CA and NOT unincorporated San Mateo county. Windows live local also states that the Airport is WITHIN and INSIDE the city limits on San Francisco. Also, city-data.com states that the zip code 94128 is NOT considered to be unincorporated San Mateo county. Therefore information on the article about the location of the airport has been INCORRECT this entire time. Please advise on correcting the article by revising the location, thank you.
City data link: http://www.city-data.com/zips/94128.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.152.220 ( talk) 00:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
You mean to tell me that the USGS themselves are "simply just plain wrong?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.152.220 ( talk) 06:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
The airport is clearly labeled SF from this link. How can this be explained? Also, I mean no disrespect when arguing against registered users here. I am only 21 years of age after all, but I carefully monitor city jurisdictions of many areas in California with precision. And I will continue to remain firm with my beliefs about the city jurisdiction of this airport until I am fully convinced otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.152.220 ( talk) 08:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
When did Jet Airways announced that they are ending its SFO-PVG-BOM flight? I still found flights after that date on their website. Cashier freak ( talk) 05:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Is United still planning on flying to CAN? They have delayed the flight for 1 year due to the rising of oil prices so i am not seure we should removed CAN from the list or leave it as Guangzhou [begins June 2009]? Cashier freak ( talk) 04:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
What's with the tables, every airport has it now. I know it is accepted by wikipedia, but personally, I think the old way looked better and seemed a bit more organized. I could be mistaken though. Any thoughts would be appreciated. RK-SFO November 11, 2008
Singapore Airlines says its San Francisco City Office is at 710 N McDonnell Road. http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/company_info/contact.jsp Is this on the airport grounds? WhisperToMe ( talk) 13:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
For the moment, Aer Lingus are only cutting the Winter schedule. Although it was said that there was "no absolute guarantee" that they will operate the summer schedule next year, for the moment it is operational as it hasn't been cut. Therefore a "seasonal" tag is the best indication. FF3000 ( talk) 21:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I am reviewing this article for GA Sweeps. Comments forthcoming.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 22:57, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
The article states that the security screening contractor is Covenant Aviation Security, which is correct. However, it also says that CAS is nicknamed "Team SFO." This is not quite correct. ALL SFO employees, contractors, volunteers, etc., are part of Team SFO, which refers to all of the people who are part of SFO, regardless of whether they work for the airport or a contractor. The idea is that all of us have a role in the security of the airport. A lot of people (especially on flyertalk.com) think that the CSA folks are called Team SFO because they had a "Team SFO" embroidered on their previous white TSA-style uniforms. However, I do not work for CAS and I have nothing *directly* to do with security at SFO, but I have a "Team SFO" lanyard that holds my SFO badge, and I have a bunch of other Team SFO swag. As SFO's 2005 annual report ( http://www.flysfo.com/web/export/sites/default/download/about/reports/pdf/SFO_Annual_Year_Review_2005.pdf) states: "Team SFO consists of more than 18,000 employees committed to keeping the Airport safe and secure. Of these, 1050 are Covenant Aviation Security employees...." In other words, "Team SFO" is much larger (and somewhat more amorphous) than CAS.
67.169.97.194 ( talk) 08:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
An SFO incident that I remember clearly from my youth was the landing of Japan Airlines Flight 2 in the Bay, well short of the runway. It could certainly be added; I'll leave it for someone more familiar with the article's style. -- BPMullins | Talk 05:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
before adding SGN as a destination, anyone know if either leg involves a plane change? SFO remains as a destination on the SGN page, just for your consideration. -- H XL 何献龙 03:53, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I am very confused on where should Lima be listed. However a direct United international destination, it makes a stop in Houston-Interncontinental then continuing on to Lima. I checked the flight status of UA854/855 on United.com and the flight departs/arrives from Boarding Area F and not the international terminal. I suggesting putting Lima in the domestic section but with a footnote saying that hence an int'l destinations it departs from Boarding Area F instead of G. Snoozlepet ( talk) 23:49, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I added the last sentence about SFO Enterprises, Inc. Amazing there's not much information about this private corporation and how their connection to Honduras' airports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RadioColtrane ( talk • contribs) 07:02, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of San Francisco International Airport's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Route Map":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
There is no reason to include accidents which occurred on flights which happened to be destined for SFO. It does not relate to the operation or history of the airport. 70.36.212.48 ( talk) 18:12, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Why would you want to remove that source on San Francisco International Airport? -- JetBlast ( talk) 20:26, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
But it should all be sourced like any other part of the article is sourced. There is no special arrangement for designation tables. -- JetBlast ( talk) 09:13, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
There have been several edits back and forth re calling SFO a "class B international airport". While its technically true that class B is a designation of airspace, not an airport, class B airspace exists primarily around large airports, as indicated in Airspace class (United States)#Class B and List of Class B airports in the United States. Calling SFO a class B airport is, I think, a useful and unambiguous shorthand to express that it's a major airport (ie major enough to warrant class B airspace), much better than the subjective word "major" which was rightly removed from the opening sentence a day or two ago. Thus, the insistence that "class B" applies to airspace, not airports, is just being pedantic, in my opinion.
That said, I'm not sure it's necessary for other reasons. Class B is a jargon term that probably doesn't mean much to most readers, and the I portable of the airport is probably better conveyed by the traffic statistics in the next paragraph. —Alex ( ASHill | talk | contribs) 22:26, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
This issue has been brought up in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Airports#.22Directness.22 of beyond-hub flights by Mainland Chinese airlines. Please discuss there. HkCaGu ( talk) 20:28, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports. HkCaGu ( talk) 03:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
We should be putting Xi'an under United Airlines destinations as "pending government approval" People need to know that UA will be flying there. Most of the time, service is granted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max.wz.goetz ( talk • contribs) 22:20, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
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On the SFO page and other airport pages, what typically happens when an airline announces it will start service to another city is that the name of the city, the start date in parenthesis, and a reference to an article announcing the new service are added. For example, if an airline announces it will start service to Manchester, the following gets added in an airline's listing of flights - Manchester (UK) (begins May 14, 2017)[94]. Once service begins, the start date and reference are removed.
China Eastern announced and eventually started service to two new cities - Kunming and Qingdao. I noticed the start dates were removed, but the references to the articles announcing the new service were still there. I tried to remove the references, but someone restored them. I tried it again, and they were restored again. In asking the person who did this what was going on, he declared that references should be maintained.
That's not very consistent.
If you look at the listings for currently operating flights, you'll see no references to articles about their start date.
Shouldn't we be consistent here and do what's always been done after a new flight starts, which is remove the start date and reference to the article announcing the start date?
I'm going to try to remove the references and see if they get restored.
Ssinai ( talk) 08:22, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
According to /info/en/?search=Ball_(bearing)#Atypical_uses , the columns of the airport building stand on enormous steel balls sitting between concave dishes. In the event of an earthquake the ground can move 20" horizontally in any direction but the columns will stay more or less stationary. Could someone mention that or add a link to the page? Thanks! UBJ 43X ( talk) 13:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Regarding the Air Canada incident ...
There seems to be some disagreement regarding discussing the Air Canada incident. Technically one can argue it does not yet meet WP:AIRCRASH since there was no actual crash and no policies or procedures have yet been changed. Nevertheless, IMHO
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Routunda A has been closed for demolition. US Airways has moved to America West gates. Does anybody know when Terminal 2 will open?
Regarding this edit about restoring baylands and its removal, here are some references from the San Francisco Chronicle:
In sum, it's necessary by law to restore/reclaim/preserve wetlands somewhere else in the Bay Area to offset the area lost due to fill. Perhaps the sentence should have been worded more carefully. -- Minesweeper 00:45, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
What would be nice is if boarding areas were indented. Kinda like this:
-- Jigen III 14:38, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think SFO is part of the City of San Francisco since it is administrated by the city. City boundary doesn't have to be interconnected. It even has its own zip code that belongs to San Francisco -- Will74205 08:44, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
The City and County of San Francisco are coextensive, and the airport is clearly in San Mateo County. I know of a couple of examples of counties that have exclaves ( Arapahoe County, Colorado and Norfolk County, Massachusetts), but San Francisco is not one of them. ZIP codes can provide clues about what is part of a city and what is not, but they can never be trusted by themselves. Why? The U.S. Postal Service is, of course, primarily concerned with efficient mail delivery, not with affirming municipal boundaries. It is very common that areas outside the city limits of a certain city have that city's ZIP codes, as is the case with SFO. The USPS always assigns the name of a city (not a county) to every post office, even if the post office is outside that city. When ZIP codes were being set up, the USPS could have assigned the city names "Millbrae" or "San Bruno" to the ZIP code serving SFO (those being the closest actual cities), but probably to avoid confusion (again, to facilitate efficient mail delivery), the city name "San Francisco" was assigned. ZIP code boundaries quite often do not match city boundaries, and it is also very common that smaller cities near a larger city do not have "their own" ZIP codes, resulting in the impression that the smaller cities are actually part of the larger cities. It is also not unusual for places that are not cities to have "their own" ZIP codes; and conversely, there are many cities (especially newly incorporated ones) that do not have "their own" ZIP codes. The bottom line: ZIP codes are not a reliable determinant of city boundaries. Denvoran 16:15, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
It is not a standard that the first three digits of ZIP codes correlate to county boundaries. Off the top of my head, there are both 840XX and 841XX ZIP codes in Salt Lake County, Utah - and this, even though Salt Lake City is a much smaller urban area than San Francisco and the Peninsula. Regarding the last argument, *if* what you wrote is true, I would suppose that a special agreement has been made between the City & County San Francisco and the County of San Mateo, to the effect that the C&C SF has law enforcement jurisdiction on SFO property. The airport, like unto a city of its own itself, has to have security forces to match - if the airport is owned and operated by the C&C SF, why should the County of San Mateo use its resources to provide law enforcement for such a large entity? Thus, I imagine, an intergovernmental agreement was struck. Bottom line - SFO lies in San Mateo county; it could only become part of the City and County of San Francisco if county boundaries were changed, and this would require action at the state level. It would probably be complicated or costly to make a change in county boundaries; as a result, things are just left as-is, even if it creates a somewhat confusing situation and requires certain intergovernmental agreements. Not lying within any incorporated city, SFO is then of course an unincorporated part of San Mateo County. 205.162.34.253 17:35, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
However, according to USGS topographic maps of the airport, it lies in San Francisco City and County, not in San Mateo. Map source - [www.TopoZone.com] - Check-Six
I'm curious if there is any solid information out there on the closing of the staging area at the south end of the airport, or any efforts to reopen it. I think it was closed down shortly after 9/11 because it would be a good terrorist attack point or something like that, but I know a lot of locals are disappointed because it was a good place to watch planes. TheCharlie 21:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Recently I have been adding (and subtracting) destinations from the United Airlines domestic and international lists after searching through SFO's and United's websites for destinations. However, it seems that while Bangkok (plane change at Tokyo-Narita) is included, Brussels (plane change at Washington-Dulles) and Munich (plane change at Chicago-O'Hare) are not. Also, service to Ho Chi Minh City has a stop at Hong Kong. Is there a standard for inclusion or exclusion? If there is, what is it? Thanks. Physicq210 03:52, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Please leave parentheses around the gate numbers in the subheadings for terminals/boarding areas. There is no formal style standard for this, but I have not seen hyphens used in any other airport articles, and the only other article I could find with gate number ranges ( Philadelphia International Airport) uses parentheses, as do other articles with explanatory material after the terminal name or number, e.g., John F. Kennedy International Airport and Charles de Gaulle International Airport. I don't see any with hyphens. MCB 04:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Please stop adding Shanghai-Pudong to the list of destinations under Air China. Air China does NOT have direct service from SFO to Shanghai-Pudong. Therefore, this destination is not worth mentioning, per WikiProject Airports guidelines. -- Physicq210 02:33, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
This question has come up before, and there is a lengthy discussion above. However, as someone who lived in San Mateo County from 1971-1973 and 1981-87, it was well known locally (and the subject of newspaper stories, hearings, political developments, etc.) that the airport, while owned and operated by San Francisco, is in fact located in San Mateo County. This was noted in the article for most of its existence. However, Wikipedia policy requires citation to reliable sources, and I was unable to locate an online source to confirm this until recently. I didn't see any place to refer to it in the article and pretty much forgot about it until the article was changed.
The source is an official publication of the County of San Mateo, the County Profile 2006-07 (PDF document), which states: "The San Francisco International Airport (SFO) is located in an unincorporated area of the County. [...] Although SFO is owned and operated by the City and County of San Francisco, it plays a very significant part in the economy of the County." Elsewhere in the document, in a list of the largest employers in the County, it shows United Airlines with 10,328 employees, and the airport itself with 1,179 employees.
I reverted the assertion that SFO is "an enclave of San Mateo County" (which I believe is not quite what the author intended; that should have been "an enclave in San Mateo County" or "an exclave of San Francisco"; see enclave and exclave). I'm not sure why the USGS map would say otherwise; it may be out of date, or else a simple error. In any case I would consider the County's own publication authoritative. -- MCB 04:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it necessary to have two pictures of SFO in the infobox? The first was OK, but the second one is not as good as the first one (in my point of view). However, I did not delete it lest an edit war be started over this. Any suggestions? -- Physicq210 23:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the SFO logo, now that I've changed it to an SVG, the logo's transparent background doesn't fit with the blue background. Is there any way we could have it on very light gray, like with the photo below it? My idea was to model the infobox after the
LAX example.
Gordeonbleu
05:25, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm that United Airlines has nonstop service between SFO and MSP ( Minneapolis/St. Paul)? According to the wikipedia-MSP page, United does not offer SFO-MSP service. However, on airline route maps.com, SFO does fly to MSP. I've tried placing MSP under United Airlines destinations, but something keeps taking it off. Can anyone verify this route? July 18, 2006
Dpes anyone know if the new Columbus-based Skybus Airlines is planning on flying to SFO. An ultra- low cost carrier is really needed since niether Southwest Airlines or Jetblue Airways serve SFO.
This is getting ridiculous. User:24.3.225.234 has constantly added Cancun as a destination for United Airlines, despite constant reverts and numerous warnings on his/her talk page. WikiProject Airports guidelines state:
List non-stop and direct flights only. (emphasis added)
Using www.flysfo.com, united.com, or any similar website will show that Cancun does not fit the above description, hence are not worth mentioning. Please, do NOT add Cancun as a destination until United Airlines does have direct flights from SFO to Cancun (which, as of now, it does not). -- physicq210 04:51, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Depart: San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Arrive: Cancun, Mexico (CUN)
Distance: 2408mi / 3852km
Duration: 5h20m
Date: July 22, 2006
Leg 1 - United Airlines 1087
Departure San Francisco, CA (SFO)
Departure Time 08:35
Arrival Cancun, Mexico (CUN)
Arrival Time 15:55
Aircraft Type 752
Meal Food for Purchase
Distance 2408mi / 3852km
Duration 5h20m
Operated By United Airlines
Dbinder ( talk) 18:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, according to united.com, there is SFO-CUN service on Saturday only. I apologize for my mistake. -- physicq210 19:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, i do apologize! There is SFO-CUN service on Saturdays only. I only looked up the flight status of the flight. I do apologize for my mistake! But I will never make any edits to this again cause we're all dumb!!! Bucs2004 00:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
This article has come along nicely (even has a featured picture!). However, the references are very light, and this could be a problem. External links can be deleted at will, but references are permanent as long as the information that they are referencing remain in the article. Hence the "Further Reading" section is pretty much the extent of the references, and that is not sufficient. I turned one in-line link into an inline notation for starters, but this needs to be expanded. Particular atention needs to be given to statistics, quotes and specific events (especially on the individual aircraft incidents). For more information on how to improve in this area, see "How and where to cite sources".
On another point, statements like this:
"As such, San Francisco International Airport will probably remain popular but stagnant while its two neighbor airports (Oakland International Airport in Oakland and San Jose International Airport in San Jose) will continue to grow for the time being"
are highly opinionated/ crystal ballish, and need to either substatiated by a reputable outside source, written in a neutral tone or removed. Like "This reputable source has predicted that SFO will..." or "This such and such report showed that since 2002, SFOs traffice has decreased 62%." But, great job so far.-- Esprit15d 13:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
" tags to the major offenders (more than is recommended, but since this article is actively being workied on, I figured they'll be gone soon). Meanwhile, I'm adding it to the Good articles that only lack sources list. This might help out some, since some people volunteer to bring these articles up to speed. OK, one more thing: many of the references you have now probably can verify many of the facts already there. Don't forget (whomever is ready this) that is you put "name=XYZ" in the ref tag, that you can quickly use <ref name=XYZ/> to verify several statements with a single reference.-- Esprit15d 18:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
What happened to the articles about Alaska Airlines Flight 261 and PSA Flight 1771. They were there one minute and gone the next. Since both flights were headed to SFO, I think they should be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.6.251.241 ( talk • contribs)
I recieived this email form a customer service agent from SFO per my question about Terminal 2: "We are currently studying the possiblity of remodling or completely rebuilding the terminal. To my knowledge nothing has been decided at this time and any construction project is years away."
What airlines did Terminal 2 used to serve? Did all UA international arrivals and departures occur there, for instance?
An anon inserted the following text (along with a reference) into the International Terminal section:
In point of fact, the A380 has much the same dimensions as the Boeing 747, apart from wings that are a little longer. Singapore Airlines plans to fly 475-seat versions, not that much different to a B747's capacity (and in fact well below the maximum for a B747). Unless a gate is built to extremely tight specs (such as some of those at LAX, T4 for example) an A380 will be able to use the gate with no problems. Heavier and larger aircraft regularly use commercial airport runways and facilities. I am prepared to say that the gates were intended for extremely large aircraft, but it is incorrect to say that A380s will not be able to use regular gates. -- Jumbo 22:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
(unverified)According to the Air Canada Jazz website, AC Jazz has service to SFO from Vancouver.
-This is true they serve 1 flight on Saturday, good catch! -- 63.202.190.242 00:38, Sep 26, 2006 (UTC)
From the article: "San Francisco is the largest airport in the San Francisco Bay Area". Isn't it the largest in Northern California? Or are we suggesting that Sacramento's is larger (area vs. traffic)? Gordeonbleu 05:57, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
This is an airport. Yes, it has the second highest traffic volume in California, but it is still just an airport. There are thousands of articles that are more significant to the topic of California in general than this one. Does this article "define and determine the subject of the California WikiProject?" I think not. Gentgeen 06:40, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
According to the fall update on SFO's website, United Express will begin seasonal SFO-Aspen service 3 times a week.
I was just looking on NWA's website an found this...
NWA flight#369
Departs: Chicago-Midway Int'l, IL ( MDW ) Arrives: Minneapolis/St. Paul-Int'l, MN (MSP) Gate: A5 Gate: C13 Scheduled: 12:15PM Scheduled: 1:40PM Actual: Aircraft: A320 Status: On Schedule
Departs: Minneapolis/St. Paul-Int'l, MN (MSP) Arrives: San Francisco-Int'l, CA (SFO) Gate: C13 Gate: 45B Scheduled: 2:40PM Scheduled: 4:38PM Actual: Aircraft: A320 Status: On Schedule
Since it's the same plane, and doesn't change gates in MSP, should it be listed?
I think most Wikipedia airport pages do not list destinations as nonstop if through a hub airport.
Not sure if we are using inline cites for route announcements, but the Jet Airways source is Reuters India, Jet Airways to add Bangkok, U.S. routes, January 9, 2007. -- MCB 21:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I suggest that we need to figure out a definition of "fortress hub" and then cite and source it. Without question, places like CVG/DL and MSP/NW are fortresses, but I would question SFO's status when under 50 percent of the traffic is United. Perhaps this should be taken up at WP:AIRPORTS for more input. FCYTravis 07:39, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I removed the former routes section due to the following conversations on WikiProject Airports Talk and SeaTac's Talk Page. I don't mean to offend. Thanks -- Matt 23:46, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Former Airlines and Routes of San Francisco International Airport is related to here. Tinlinkin 10:23, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
If Virgin America plans to operate from the International Terminal, then what will happen to Terminal 2? Bucs2004 01:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Please post your comments. Thanks.-- Inetpup 06:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone explain what is notable about listing all the airlines by boarding area, this is Wikipedia not a travel guide. Airlines are normally listed just by Terminals, this gives the reader an idea and scope about each terminals services. They do not need to know from an encylopedia what gate to use! MilborneOne 21:50, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
There has been an ongoing discussion on the Cathay Pacific talk page on whether or not SFO is qualified as a focus city for CX. After reading many comments made by other editors, I don't think that SFO is a focus city for CX. What are your suggestions? Bucs2004 23:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I emailed Cathay Pacific and they said they are planning on adding at least one additional round trip flight between SFO and HKG this fall as well as adding round trip flights from SFO to Singapore and Taipei City by next year. - Robert25
Why is Bangkok not a direct flight from San Francisco? It runs under the same flight number (UA837/838) and an anon user keeps adding San Francisco as a destination for UA on the BKK article. Bucs2004 04:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Why are anon IPs keep seperating domestic and international operations for the International Terminal Boarding Area A section. Wasn't this discussed before? 19:10, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Corsairfly (Paris-Orly) (Service may restart in 2008/pending govt. approval) [2]
In a nutshell, corsairfly states intrest in resuming the San Fran-Orly Route. Also, they state intrests in doing so on theri desinations page corsairfly destinations
i tried putting that on the page but some people had some problems with it=) just trying to be helpful, and then someone put it as vandalism.
The reason for including this is a good one; unlike all but a handful of airports in the world (perhaps only SFO, LAX, and JFK, maybe also DFW, in the United States), it is most commonly referred to by its three-letter IATA code, as an initialism, by travelers and the general public. (In Chicago, you wouldn't tell a taxi driver to take you to O.R.D.) Removing the sentence because the code appears in the lead and the infobox is inapposite; it's there as a name or nickname for the airport rather than merely as a code. -- MCB ( talk) 21:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
United Express/SkyWest is going to launch SFO-YYJ in June.
A little history lesson: A few months back two editors were fighting on whether there was one or two carousels for domestic/pre-cleared arrivals. I sort of settled it with "let's not worry about the numbers" and it seemed everybody was happy. It's enough details telling that arrivals are separated. The exact carousel numbering is too much. HkCaGu ( talk) 21:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Does Delta still fly that route? I couldn't find any flights on their schedules that reflect this. It was recently added. Audude08 ( talk) 04:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I would have to disagree with mentioning Air Canada anywhere in the Boarding Area A section since AC doesn't operate in the International Terminal.
-- Limaindia ( talk) 00:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I second that, it’s a useful nugget of information to know that Canada operates out of domestic.-- DavidD4scnrt ( talk) 07:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
It says on the Narita International Airport page that United Airlines will be discontinuing services as of March 29, 2008. Can anyone find a reference or clarify this? I can't find anything. Duhhitsminerva ( talk) 07:22, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
It says on this article that the start date for Guangzhou on UA has been changed from "June 18, 2008" to "June 18, 2009". Is this true/correct? Will they still begins flights in June of this year? On United's website, I can still book flights to CAN from SFO on June 18, 2008. 74.183.173.237 ( talk) 23:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I edited T3 section to say most UA domestic flights leave from T3. "All" is incorrect as there are a few flights that leave from the international terminal because the aircraft arrived from an international source (usually an A319 or A320 from Mexico) and they do not want to take the time to reposition it. 69.12.151.50 ( talk) 05:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Is the airline still planning on flying to SFO? 74.183.173.237 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 00:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Old timetables of United (I'm looking at 1935) have airplanes going both to Mills Field and Oakland, so this statement from the article would seem to be incorrect: "After the war, United Airlines took up residence at SFO." -- From the 1935 timetable "All United Air Lines planes in Coast-to-Coast and Coastwise service arrive and depart from both San Francisco (Mills Field) and Oakland Municipal Airports, thus eliminating cross Bay ferry trip." JoeD80 ( talk) 21:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
The Airport's zip code is officially considered to be 94128 as stated on their website. Therefore, the airport should be classified as within the city and county of San Francisco, CA and NOT unincorporated San Mateo county. Windows live local also states that the Airport is WITHIN and INSIDE the city limits on San Francisco. Also, city-data.com states that the zip code 94128 is NOT considered to be unincorporated San Mateo county. Therefore information on the article about the location of the airport has been INCORRECT this entire time. Please advise on correcting the article by revising the location, thank you.
City data link: http://www.city-data.com/zips/94128.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.152.220 ( talk) 00:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
You mean to tell me that the USGS themselves are "simply just plain wrong?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.152.220 ( talk) 06:55, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
The airport is clearly labeled SF from this link. How can this be explained? Also, I mean no disrespect when arguing against registered users here. I am only 21 years of age after all, but I carefully monitor city jurisdictions of many areas in California with precision. And I will continue to remain firm with my beliefs about the city jurisdiction of this airport until I am fully convinced otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.152.220 ( talk) 08:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
When did Jet Airways announced that they are ending its SFO-PVG-BOM flight? I still found flights after that date on their website. Cashier freak ( talk) 05:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Is United still planning on flying to CAN? They have delayed the flight for 1 year due to the rising of oil prices so i am not seure we should removed CAN from the list or leave it as Guangzhou [begins June 2009]? Cashier freak ( talk) 04:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
What's with the tables, every airport has it now. I know it is accepted by wikipedia, but personally, I think the old way looked better and seemed a bit more organized. I could be mistaken though. Any thoughts would be appreciated. RK-SFO November 11, 2008
Singapore Airlines says its San Francisco City Office is at 710 N McDonnell Road. http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_UK/content/company_info/contact.jsp Is this on the airport grounds? WhisperToMe ( talk) 13:11, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
For the moment, Aer Lingus are only cutting the Winter schedule. Although it was said that there was "no absolute guarantee" that they will operate the summer schedule next year, for the moment it is operational as it hasn't been cut. Therefore a "seasonal" tag is the best indication. FF3000 ( talk) 21:49, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
I am reviewing this article for GA Sweeps. Comments forthcoming.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:LOTM) 22:57, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
The article states that the security screening contractor is Covenant Aviation Security, which is correct. However, it also says that CAS is nicknamed "Team SFO." This is not quite correct. ALL SFO employees, contractors, volunteers, etc., are part of Team SFO, which refers to all of the people who are part of SFO, regardless of whether they work for the airport or a contractor. The idea is that all of us have a role in the security of the airport. A lot of people (especially on flyertalk.com) think that the CSA folks are called Team SFO because they had a "Team SFO" embroidered on their previous white TSA-style uniforms. However, I do not work for CAS and I have nothing *directly* to do with security at SFO, but I have a "Team SFO" lanyard that holds my SFO badge, and I have a bunch of other Team SFO swag. As SFO's 2005 annual report ( http://www.flysfo.com/web/export/sites/default/download/about/reports/pdf/SFO_Annual_Year_Review_2005.pdf) states: "Team SFO consists of more than 18,000 employees committed to keeping the Airport safe and secure. Of these, 1050 are Covenant Aviation Security employees...." In other words, "Team SFO" is much larger (and somewhat more amorphous) than CAS.
67.169.97.194 ( talk) 08:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
An SFO incident that I remember clearly from my youth was the landing of Japan Airlines Flight 2 in the Bay, well short of the runway. It could certainly be added; I'll leave it for someone more familiar with the article's style. -- BPMullins | Talk 05:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
before adding SGN as a destination, anyone know if either leg involves a plane change? SFO remains as a destination on the SGN page, just for your consideration. -- H XL 何献龙 03:53, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I am very confused on where should Lima be listed. However a direct United international destination, it makes a stop in Houston-Interncontinental then continuing on to Lima. I checked the flight status of UA854/855 on United.com and the flight departs/arrives from Boarding Area F and not the international terminal. I suggesting putting Lima in the domestic section but with a footnote saying that hence an int'l destinations it departs from Boarding Area F instead of G. Snoozlepet ( talk) 23:49, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Hello. I added the last sentence about SFO Enterprises, Inc. Amazing there's not much information about this private corporation and how their connection to Honduras' airports. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RadioColtrane ( talk • contribs) 07:02, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of San Francisco International Airport's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Route Map":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
There is no reason to include accidents which occurred on flights which happened to be destined for SFO. It does not relate to the operation or history of the airport. 70.36.212.48 ( talk) 18:12, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Why would you want to remove that source on San Francisco International Airport? -- JetBlast ( talk) 20:26, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
But it should all be sourced like any other part of the article is sourced. There is no special arrangement for designation tables. -- JetBlast ( talk) 09:13, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
There have been several edits back and forth re calling SFO a "class B international airport". While its technically true that class B is a designation of airspace, not an airport, class B airspace exists primarily around large airports, as indicated in Airspace class (United States)#Class B and List of Class B airports in the United States. Calling SFO a class B airport is, I think, a useful and unambiguous shorthand to express that it's a major airport (ie major enough to warrant class B airspace), much better than the subjective word "major" which was rightly removed from the opening sentence a day or two ago. Thus, the insistence that "class B" applies to airspace, not airports, is just being pedantic, in my opinion.
That said, I'm not sure it's necessary for other reasons. Class B is a jargon term that probably doesn't mean much to most readers, and the I portable of the airport is probably better conveyed by the traffic statistics in the next paragraph. —Alex ( ASHill | talk | contribs) 22:26, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
This issue has been brought up in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Airports#.22Directness.22 of beyond-hub flights by Mainland Chinese airlines. Please discuss there. HkCaGu ( talk) 20:28, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports. HkCaGu ( talk) 03:46, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
We should be putting Xi'an under United Airlines destinations as "pending government approval" People need to know that UA will be flying there. Most of the time, service is granted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max.wz.goetz ( talk • contribs) 22:20, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
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On the SFO page and other airport pages, what typically happens when an airline announces it will start service to another city is that the name of the city, the start date in parenthesis, and a reference to an article announcing the new service are added. For example, if an airline announces it will start service to Manchester, the following gets added in an airline's listing of flights - Manchester (UK) (begins May 14, 2017)[94]. Once service begins, the start date and reference are removed.
China Eastern announced and eventually started service to two new cities - Kunming and Qingdao. I noticed the start dates were removed, but the references to the articles announcing the new service were still there. I tried to remove the references, but someone restored them. I tried it again, and they were restored again. In asking the person who did this what was going on, he declared that references should be maintained.
That's not very consistent.
If you look at the listings for currently operating flights, you'll see no references to articles about their start date.
Shouldn't we be consistent here and do what's always been done after a new flight starts, which is remove the start date and reference to the article announcing the start date?
I'm going to try to remove the references and see if they get restored.
Ssinai ( talk) 08:22, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
According to /info/en/?search=Ball_(bearing)#Atypical_uses , the columns of the airport building stand on enormous steel balls sitting between concave dishes. In the event of an earthquake the ground can move 20" horizontally in any direction but the columns will stay more or less stationary. Could someone mention that or add a link to the page? Thanks! UBJ 43X ( talk) 13:26, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Regarding the Air Canada incident ...
There seems to be some disagreement regarding discussing the Air Canada incident. Technically one can argue it does not yet meet WP:AIRCRASH since there was no actual crash and no policies or procedures have yet been changed. Nevertheless, IMHO
-- MC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.131.2.3 ( talk) 17:22, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
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