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Please note that the current local time zone in San Bruno is PDT not PST. If you are going to refer to the local time, you should use that designation. -- Crunch ( talk) 13:09, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
We know exactly when this happened, because USGS recorded it as a magnitude 1.1 earthquake: Thursday, September 09, 2010 at 06:11:12 PM at epicenter location 37.623°N, 122.442°W http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/nc71453305.html Bealevideo ( talk) 16:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Why was this article moved without discussion from 2010 San Bruno, California fire to 2010 San Bruno fire? The explanation given was "no need for California, as there was no other notable fire in another San Bruno." First of all, 2010 is not over and we don't know if there will be another fire in another San Bruno. More importantly, having the word "California" in the title does more than just differentiate the fire from other fires in 2010 in other San Bruno. It helps people find the article who might not know exactly where it took place. San Bruno is not a large or well-known location outside of northern California and to require knowledge of the exact city in order to find the article is foolish. See Wikipedia:Article titles. Point number one in this article is "Recognizability." This new name seems to violate that. At the very least a discussion should take place before a renaming take place. -- Crunch ( talk) 21:27, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
It is worth noting that there does not seem to be another San Bruno of any significant size. The San Bruno page has been a redirect to San Bruno, California since 2004, and a Google Maps search for "San Bruno" turns up only the California city. I think it's unlikely that there will be another major fire in another city named San Bruno in the three months remaining in 2010, and in the event that there is, the page can be renamed. Tim Pierce ( talk) 16:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
This article has been nominated for deletion. We need some more free-use photos to beef this article up, besides the only one that's currently up. Seeyardee ( talk) 01:12, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I added a picture I took the night of the accident. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MisterOh ( talk • contribs) 13:54, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
As a gas transmission line, not distribution or service, it was unlikely to have methyl mercaptan injected, as noted:
"He said that high-pressure lines are not required to have odor added to help detect leaks and said the probe would determine whether it was." < http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/09/san-bruno-fire-explosion-ntsb-pge.html>
Thus any stories about "smelling gas" are likely unrelated....
166.84.1.2 ( talk) 04:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
I think it'd be important to add some more info about what hospitals the people went to, or where families went when evacuated, and for how long. Also I wonder if it'd be allowed if there was a victims section allowed. Of course we don't describe too much about each victim because WP doesn't allow that, but just "Person's name, age" as a list. Cyanidethistles ( talk) 07:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
When you look closely at the USGS epicenter on Google Maps, it is obvious that underground work has been done at this spot -- a large square of the pavement is a different color at that exact spot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Corsair1944 ( talk • contribs) 18:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Just FYI, the comment about the San Andreas fault proximity came from a former resident of the area and supported (albeit imprecisely) by the cited USGS map. This is admittedly OR, not a second source. Hopefully the USGS maps can suffice. It is regrettable that it was removed. —Preceding
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Further, if USGS citations are 1st source OR, then they should be removed from the rest of the article as well.
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{{Expert-talk}} Will someone please add more images. 69.181.118.225 ( talk) 05:33, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Some great images on Creative commons lisencse [2] Weaponbb7 ( talk) 22:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Fixed images added. We can add more when we expand the text. Trying to keep Limit images being proportional to amount of text So we dont have a Gallery instead of an article
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too minor for an encyclopaedia, wikinews would be better. Lihaas ( talk) 13:04, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Over the weekend of April 16-17, 2011 I caught a fragment of a report on the radio saying that technicians "admitted to the NTSB" that they had encountered problems during the electrical repair work at the Milpitas pumping station. After repairs had been completed, they powered the system up and it appeared to "go crazy", whereupon they yanked wires out and shut it down. After reconnecting the wires and powering it up again, everything appeared to be working normally. This was shortly before the explosion in San Bruno, about 40 miles away. The malfunction could have caused a pressure surge in the pipeline that ultimately caused a weld failure at a weak point. I left an embedded comment in the article, but a reliable reference is needed to include it. — Quicksilver T @ 14:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
I couldn't find a link to the NTSB report anywhere on the page. Here it is: http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2011/PAR1101.pdf . I think it should be referenced, however the page says there are too many references. Which one should be removed? Or would you like to put it somewhere else? 131.179.1.73 ( talk) 23:25, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
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Please note that the current local time zone in San Bruno is PDT not PST. If you are going to refer to the local time, you should use that designation. -- Crunch ( talk) 13:09, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
We know exactly when this happened, because USGS recorded it as a magnitude 1.1 earthquake: Thursday, September 09, 2010 at 06:11:12 PM at epicenter location 37.623°N, 122.442°W http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Quakes/nc71453305.html Bealevideo ( talk) 16:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Why was this article moved without discussion from 2010 San Bruno, California fire to 2010 San Bruno fire? The explanation given was "no need for California, as there was no other notable fire in another San Bruno." First of all, 2010 is not over and we don't know if there will be another fire in another San Bruno. More importantly, having the word "California" in the title does more than just differentiate the fire from other fires in 2010 in other San Bruno. It helps people find the article who might not know exactly where it took place. San Bruno is not a large or well-known location outside of northern California and to require knowledge of the exact city in order to find the article is foolish. See Wikipedia:Article titles. Point number one in this article is "Recognizability." This new name seems to violate that. At the very least a discussion should take place before a renaming take place. -- Crunch ( talk) 21:27, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
It is worth noting that there does not seem to be another San Bruno of any significant size. The San Bruno page has been a redirect to San Bruno, California since 2004, and a Google Maps search for "San Bruno" turns up only the California city. I think it's unlikely that there will be another major fire in another city named San Bruno in the three months remaining in 2010, and in the event that there is, the page can be renamed. Tim Pierce ( talk) 16:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
This article has been nominated for deletion. We need some more free-use photos to beef this article up, besides the only one that's currently up. Seeyardee ( talk) 01:12, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I added a picture I took the night of the accident. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MisterOh ( talk • contribs) 13:54, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
As a gas transmission line, not distribution or service, it was unlikely to have methyl mercaptan injected, as noted:
"He said that high-pressure lines are not required to have odor added to help detect leaks and said the probe would determine whether it was." < http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/09/san-bruno-fire-explosion-ntsb-pge.html>
Thus any stories about "smelling gas" are likely unrelated....
166.84.1.2 ( talk) 04:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
I think it'd be important to add some more info about what hospitals the people went to, or where families went when evacuated, and for how long. Also I wonder if it'd be allowed if there was a victims section allowed. Of course we don't describe too much about each victim because WP doesn't allow that, but just "Person's name, age" as a list. Cyanidethistles ( talk) 07:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
When you look closely at the USGS epicenter on Google Maps, it is obvious that underground work has been done at this spot -- a large square of the pavement is a different color at that exact spot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Corsair1944 ( talk • contribs) 18:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Just FYI, the comment about the San Andreas fault proximity came from a former resident of the area and supported (albeit imprecisely) by the cited USGS map. This is admittedly OR, not a second source. Hopefully the USGS maps can suffice. It is regrettable that it was removed. —Preceding
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Further, if USGS citations are 1st source OR, then they should be removed from the rest of the article as well.
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03:12, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
{{Expert-talk}} Will someone please add more images. 69.181.118.225 ( talk) 05:33, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Some great images on Creative commons lisencse [2] Weaponbb7 ( talk) 22:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Fixed images added. We can add more when we expand the text. Trying to keep Limit images being proportional to amount of text So we dont have a Gallery instead of an article
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23:40, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
too minor for an encyclopaedia, wikinews would be better. Lihaas ( talk) 13:04, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Over the weekend of April 16-17, 2011 I caught a fragment of a report on the radio saying that technicians "admitted to the NTSB" that they had encountered problems during the electrical repair work at the Milpitas pumping station. After repairs had been completed, they powered the system up and it appeared to "go crazy", whereupon they yanked wires out and shut it down. After reconnecting the wires and powering it up again, everything appeared to be working normally. This was shortly before the explosion in San Bruno, about 40 miles away. The malfunction could have caused a pressure surge in the pipeline that ultimately caused a weld failure at a weak point. I left an embedded comment in the article, but a reliable reference is needed to include it. — Quicksilver T @ 14:15, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
I couldn't find a link to the NTSB report anywhere on the page. Here it is: http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2011/PAR1101.pdf . I think it should be referenced, however the page says there are too many references. Which one should be removed? Or would you like to put it somewhere else? 131.179.1.73 ( talk) 23:25, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
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