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I think this is a mistake: In 1903, the Societas Rosicruciana became the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. - the Golden Dawn was founded around 1880. But perhaps there is a connection between GD and SRIA, are there any sources to confirm this? -- Asathoor 09:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Nothing is written in this article about the court-case between Crowley and Mathers regarding the latter's publication of GD rituals. I thought this would have been more immportant than Mathers' playing chess...since this had been cited often in occult histories of the GD and its development to Crowley's AA, and of the personality developments between the two, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.200.44.82 ( talk) 05:55, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
The article has him resigning in 1882, which isn't in the reference. I have him in the minutes of Quatuor Coronati visiting five years later, as a member of Hengist lodge. Does anyone have another source for his resignation? Fiddlersmouth ( talk) 00:01, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Sword of Wisdom, SBN:399-11534-8, by Ithell Colquhoun is a biography of Mathers. It contains not only Mathers' material, but discusses the events and people that influenced Mathers and were influenced by him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:8821:0:D12E:1B35:7B0:933D ( talk) 05:49, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
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Over half the article is dedicated to invective, the backbone of which cites the non-scholarly works of people known to have quarreled with Mathers.
The below paragraph following a purported criticism AE Waite levelled against MacGregor Mathers seems tangential. MacGregor Mathers was also a Victorian occultist, so wouldn't he have had similar views to Waite? I'm not sure this provides any clarification when it highlights a unifying factor between the two, not a difference or reason for disagreement.
The extended quote/reference to Crowley regarding MacGregor Mathers' death is also of questionable relevance. It is more a quote on his views of the state of the Golden Dawn than any type of requiem and goes off on his opinion of Waite more than it does MacGregor Mathers, the decedent in this circumstance. Perhaps some thought should be put into the relevance of these two men's features in these sections. AnandaBliss ( talk) 20:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
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I read the paragraph cited as such. It wasn't. I removed the para as otherwise this is trivia with no reason to mention. Skyerise ( talk) 12:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Our article on Aleister Crowley in the section on Possible links to intelligence, asserts with citation that Mathers was known to be a Carlist, yet there is nothing on that here. Seems like it would be an interesting addition here, where we could go into more detail about that. Skyerise ( talk) 16:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
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I think this is a mistake: In 1903, the Societas Rosicruciana became the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. - the Golden Dawn was founded around 1880. But perhaps there is a connection between GD and SRIA, are there any sources to confirm this? -- Asathoor 09:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Nothing is written in this article about the court-case between Crowley and Mathers regarding the latter's publication of GD rituals. I thought this would have been more immportant than Mathers' playing chess...since this had been cited often in occult histories of the GD and its development to Crowley's AA, and of the personality developments between the two, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.200.44.82 ( talk) 05:55, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
The article has him resigning in 1882, which isn't in the reference. I have him in the minutes of Quatuor Coronati visiting five years later, as a member of Hengist lodge. Does anyone have another source for his resignation? Fiddlersmouth ( talk) 00:01, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Sword of Wisdom, SBN:399-11534-8, by Ithell Colquhoun is a biography of Mathers. It contains not only Mathers' material, but discusses the events and people that influenced Mathers and were influenced by him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:8821:0:D12E:1B35:7B0:933D ( talk) 05:49, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
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Over half the article is dedicated to invective, the backbone of which cites the non-scholarly works of people known to have quarreled with Mathers.
The below paragraph following a purported criticism AE Waite levelled against MacGregor Mathers seems tangential. MacGregor Mathers was also a Victorian occultist, so wouldn't he have had similar views to Waite? I'm not sure this provides any clarification when it highlights a unifying factor between the two, not a difference or reason for disagreement.
The extended quote/reference to Crowley regarding MacGregor Mathers' death is also of questionable relevance. It is more a quote on his views of the state of the Golden Dawn than any type of requiem and goes off on his opinion of Waite more than it does MacGregor Mathers, the decedent in this circumstance. Perhaps some thought should be put into the relevance of these two men's features in these sections. AnandaBliss ( talk) 20:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
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I read the paragraph cited as such. It wasn't. I removed the para as otherwise this is trivia with no reason to mention. Skyerise ( talk) 12:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Our article on Aleister Crowley in the section on Possible links to intelligence, asserts with citation that Mathers was known to be a Carlist, yet there is nothing on that here. Seems like it would be an interesting addition here, where we could go into more detail about that. Skyerise ( talk) 16:21, 26 May 2024 (UTC)