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I am proposing the following content to rework this section to make the content more succinct, remove unrelated paragraphs about the Khavaris and remove repeated information.
In June 2016 Khashayar Khavari, son of Iranian fugitive [Mahmoud Reza Kahvari]( http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-24/iran-hangs-man-convicted-of-2.6-billion-bank-scam/5475958) and his brother in-law filed a lawsuit against Sam Mizrahi. Khavari claimed that because of their $14.2M contribution to purchase land for 181 Davenport and 133 Hazelton [17], two condo projects that Mizrahi is building, he is also owed stakes in other projects that Mizrahi’s companies are building including several buildings on Hazelton Avenue, a synagogue, and a 50 percent stake in "The One", which will be Canada's tallest tower..[17] [1] He is seeking at least C$105 million ($81 million) in damages. Mizrahi denies their claims to ownership in the additional projects and has filed a countersuit, seeking at least C$50 million for breach of contract, negligence, intimidation, conspiracy to cause economic harm, and defamation, among other grievances.[17] Though Mizrahi had said none of the money from the developments would be distributed until the two properties were finished, he has agreed to write a $7 million cheque to the Khavari family. [2] The final outcome of the lawsuits are pending in Ontario but there have been two rulings so far.[17] On March 24, 2016, the court dismissed a motion, described as an “attempt to fast track the case”[17], on the part of the Khavaris to have Mizrahi return shares of five corporations held by Mizrahi, ruling "Khash has transferred all of his rights of ownership in the Shares to MEI [Mizrahi]. What remains under the Trust Agreement is essentially no more than a contractual obligation on the part of MEI to re-transfer the Shares at a future point in time".[39] Most recently, on August 17, 2016, the judge presiding over the legal dispute dismissed the Khavari’s motion for an inspector to be assigned to investigate Mizrahi's finances, awarding Mizrahi’s side with $373,860.25 in costs and writing "... I am further of the view that, in all of the circumstances, it would not be appropriate to appoint an inspector."[40] Aimerlamer ( talk) 17:49, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
There is a dispute about the content of this bio, illustrated by this edit. I have semi-protected the article for a month. Please discuss the addition/removal of these controversial details, presenting high-quality reliable sources to support your position. Fences& Windows 10:29, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Well I have been on Wikipedia long enough to know about the rules and policies and most of the criticism was not about rules but the fact that you "felt" that they did not belong to the page. In answer to your responses :
In the end , this whole relationship with Mr. Khavari just shows the whole hypocrisy,lies and corruption of the governments of Iran, Israel and Canada. How crazy it is that the head of the largest bank in Iran had commercial ties to a Persian Jewish person in Canada with strong ties to the state of Israel for years, and money in order of millions (or maybe billions) have been transferred. None of this would have been possible with corruption at very top levels. The fact that Mr. Khavari and Mr. Mizrahi have none of their assets frozen and do not have CSIS interrogations, just shows that very powerful people at the top are protecting the matter.
And there is no way that Mr. Mizrahi did not know about this. Two young Iranian guys in their 20's approached him with huge sums of money. It is impossible that he did not know where the source of money was.
Israeli's also monitor these kinds of international large transactions originating from Iran. It is impossible that the government of Israel did not catch this. Iranian government, with all of its primitive technology, has a very powerful Intelligence apparatus. It is also impossible that they did not know Mr. Khavari's relationship with Mr. Mizrahi (who is an active supporter of their supposed "archenemy" Israel). Canadian banks also have frozen accounts belonging to Iranian students on many occasions [2] [3] for receiving funds in the order of a few thousands from Iran and government of Canada has strict sanctions against Iran [4]. There is no way that Canadian government did not know about this.
Apparently they all are "frenemies" behind the scenes and some are trying hard to keep this a secret. Masterofthename ( talk) 04:52, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
I was a bit surprised to see the recent edits to this biography of a living person: Sam Mizrahi. The edits were done on points that had already been arbitrated and settled through consensus. I also note the previous edit war between masterofthename and NTtb613.
I also note the following characteristics of the Orange Relish account that performed these contentious edits:
As for the points:
I have notified Orange Relish that these edits are being contested. I am also notifying the editor who did the warning and page protection earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truthseekr67 ( talk • contribs) 19:36, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Truthseekr67 ( talk) 21:06, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Truthseekr67 ( talk) 20:45, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
I have undone several edits made by Aimerlamer on March 16, 2017 that added +796 characters to the page as the information added is not sufficiently relevant to Mizrahi to deem inclusion on the page. Mepo233 ( talk) 13:55, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
@JBernardCA Your edit would have been helpful because it’s new and previously unfound but I think we have to seriously question the legitimacy of this source. The available evidence suggests that IlBusinessDaily.com is not a reliable source even though it is pretending to be one.
The Illinois Business Daily is a fake news site run by Locality Labs aka Local Labs, run by Brian Timpone.
Here is proof that this publication is run by Locality Labs which is owned by fake news huckster Brian Timpone: http://ilbusinessdaily.com/terms
Here are multiple articles providing support for the fact that Brian Timpone, publisher of this Illinois Business Daily, owner of Locality Labs, is a right-wing fake news publisher:
These sites are the subject of complaints by the Illinois Board of Elections:
The Illinois Business Daily has a Domains By Proxy WHOIS. No real news site would have that.
This content should be deleted and this site should probably be added to this page: /info/en/?search=List_of_fake_news_websites Truthseekr67 ( talk) 17:24, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
I have read through the edit history and this Talk page and now I'm trying to get this page back on track. Unfortunately, the rollback, while obviously needed, has taken this article to a place with a lot of policy issues. For one, it has re-introduced the Khavari lawsuits section. As a first step, I'd like to propose that this section be removed from the page as it's a clear WP:BLPPRIMARY issue. The section is cited entirely from primary sources, with the Bloomberg article providing no independent analysis beyond the allegations in the lawsuit. As per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:BLPRS unless there is analysis available on how these allegations played out, they should not be included. Mepo233 ( talk) 22:38, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
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I am proposing the following content to rework this section to make the content more succinct, remove unrelated paragraphs about the Khavaris and remove repeated information.
In June 2016 Khashayar Khavari, son of Iranian fugitive [Mahmoud Reza Kahvari]( http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-05-24/iran-hangs-man-convicted-of-2.6-billion-bank-scam/5475958) and his brother in-law filed a lawsuit against Sam Mizrahi. Khavari claimed that because of their $14.2M contribution to purchase land for 181 Davenport and 133 Hazelton [17], two condo projects that Mizrahi is building, he is also owed stakes in other projects that Mizrahi’s companies are building including several buildings on Hazelton Avenue, a synagogue, and a 50 percent stake in "The One", which will be Canada's tallest tower..[17] [1] He is seeking at least C$105 million ($81 million) in damages. Mizrahi denies their claims to ownership in the additional projects and has filed a countersuit, seeking at least C$50 million for breach of contract, negligence, intimidation, conspiracy to cause economic harm, and defamation, among other grievances.[17] Though Mizrahi had said none of the money from the developments would be distributed until the two properties were finished, he has agreed to write a $7 million cheque to the Khavari family. [2] The final outcome of the lawsuits are pending in Ontario but there have been two rulings so far.[17] On March 24, 2016, the court dismissed a motion, described as an “attempt to fast track the case”[17], on the part of the Khavaris to have Mizrahi return shares of five corporations held by Mizrahi, ruling "Khash has transferred all of his rights of ownership in the Shares to MEI [Mizrahi]. What remains under the Trust Agreement is essentially no more than a contractual obligation on the part of MEI to re-transfer the Shares at a future point in time".[39] Most recently, on August 17, 2016, the judge presiding over the legal dispute dismissed the Khavari’s motion for an inspector to be assigned to investigate Mizrahi's finances, awarding Mizrahi’s side with $373,860.25 in costs and writing "... I am further of the view that, in all of the circumstances, it would not be appropriate to appoint an inspector."[40] Aimerlamer ( talk) 17:49, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
There is a dispute about the content of this bio, illustrated by this edit. I have semi-protected the article for a month. Please discuss the addition/removal of these controversial details, presenting high-quality reliable sources to support your position. Fences& Windows 10:29, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Well I have been on Wikipedia long enough to know about the rules and policies and most of the criticism was not about rules but the fact that you "felt" that they did not belong to the page. In answer to your responses :
In the end , this whole relationship with Mr. Khavari just shows the whole hypocrisy,lies and corruption of the governments of Iran, Israel and Canada. How crazy it is that the head of the largest bank in Iran had commercial ties to a Persian Jewish person in Canada with strong ties to the state of Israel for years, and money in order of millions (or maybe billions) have been transferred. None of this would have been possible with corruption at very top levels. The fact that Mr. Khavari and Mr. Mizrahi have none of their assets frozen and do not have CSIS interrogations, just shows that very powerful people at the top are protecting the matter.
And there is no way that Mr. Mizrahi did not know about this. Two young Iranian guys in their 20's approached him with huge sums of money. It is impossible that he did not know where the source of money was.
Israeli's also monitor these kinds of international large transactions originating from Iran. It is impossible that the government of Israel did not catch this. Iranian government, with all of its primitive technology, has a very powerful Intelligence apparatus. It is also impossible that they did not know Mr. Khavari's relationship with Mr. Mizrahi (who is an active supporter of their supposed "archenemy" Israel). Canadian banks also have frozen accounts belonging to Iranian students on many occasions [2] [3] for receiving funds in the order of a few thousands from Iran and government of Canada has strict sanctions against Iran [4]. There is no way that Canadian government did not know about this.
Apparently they all are "frenemies" behind the scenes and some are trying hard to keep this a secret. Masterofthename ( talk) 04:52, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
I was a bit surprised to see the recent edits to this biography of a living person: Sam Mizrahi. The edits were done on points that had already been arbitrated and settled through consensus. I also note the previous edit war between masterofthename and NTtb613.
I also note the following characteristics of the Orange Relish account that performed these contentious edits:
As for the points:
I have notified Orange Relish that these edits are being contested. I am also notifying the editor who did the warning and page protection earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truthseekr67 ( talk • contribs) 19:36, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Truthseekr67 ( talk) 21:06, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Truthseekr67 ( talk) 20:45, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
I have undone several edits made by Aimerlamer on March 16, 2017 that added +796 characters to the page as the information added is not sufficiently relevant to Mizrahi to deem inclusion on the page. Mepo233 ( talk) 13:55, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
@JBernardCA Your edit would have been helpful because it’s new and previously unfound but I think we have to seriously question the legitimacy of this source. The available evidence suggests that IlBusinessDaily.com is not a reliable source even though it is pretending to be one.
The Illinois Business Daily is a fake news site run by Locality Labs aka Local Labs, run by Brian Timpone.
Here is proof that this publication is run by Locality Labs which is owned by fake news huckster Brian Timpone: http://ilbusinessdaily.com/terms
Here are multiple articles providing support for the fact that Brian Timpone, publisher of this Illinois Business Daily, owner of Locality Labs, is a right-wing fake news publisher:
These sites are the subject of complaints by the Illinois Board of Elections:
The Illinois Business Daily has a Domains By Proxy WHOIS. No real news site would have that.
This content should be deleted and this site should probably be added to this page: /info/en/?search=List_of_fake_news_websites Truthseekr67 ( talk) 17:24, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
I have read through the edit history and this Talk page and now I'm trying to get this page back on track. Unfortunately, the rollback, while obviously needed, has taken this article to a place with a lot of policy issues. For one, it has re-introduced the Khavari lawsuits section. As a first step, I'd like to propose that this section be removed from the page as it's a clear WP:BLPPRIMARY issue. The section is cited entirely from primary sources, with the Bloomberg article providing no independent analysis beyond the allegations in the lawsuit. As per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:BLPRS unless there is analysis available on how these allegations played out, they should not be included. Mepo233 ( talk) 22:38, 25 August 2020 (UTC)