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@ GreenC: you restored disputed content back to BLP, maybe in violation of WP:BLPRESTORE in this diff. I subsequently tagged it. The source that you added simply contains a quote from the justice department, in which they insert the typical "in the interest of the victims" copy paste text into their press release. As I stated initially this is probably grossly undue for the lead. If you want to keep it (as you have already done), then find some sources where the RS actually states this and not a quote from the US Justice Department. Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 04:56, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
Should "Jewish American" be included in the first sentence? I saw that someone made this change very recently and thought it might deserve discussion first. Thanks! 205.178.63.9 ( talk) 19:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Problem continues. Requested page protection. -- Green C 00:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
I would like to request changing the main image of sam bankman fried. i work with esports organization TSM and he is wearing a TSM jersey in this pic, showing half of our logo on his chest. this is the image im reffering too https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sam_Bankman-Fried#/media/File:Sam_Bankman-Fried.png
i would like to suggest to please use this image https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sam_Bankman-Fried#/media/File:MIT_Bitcoin_Expo_2022_-_Sam_Bankman.png
or please crop the existing image to not show top half of our logo on his chest. for reference you can see our logo on www.tsm.gg 209.232.4.17 ( talk) 20:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
What success? Scamming people? This reads like it was written by Bankman-Fried himself. He is a fraudster, he was never a success. Please remove this from the summary. I had done this already and replaced it with the neutral, objective - "At one point, ..." Do not attempt to glamourize this individual with misinformation. He made big bucks through fraud and fraud alone. 2604:3D09:4184:5100:6D85:C839:DA7A:7E2E ( talk) 18:17, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia's encyclopedic mission encompasses the inclusion of material that may offend. And
Wikipedia is not censored. Note that if enough sources qualify B-F as, for example, "one of the most successful fraudsters ever," or some such, then there could not be a strong objection to include the use of that word, "success" or its derivatives, in the article. No " promotion" or " editors' opinions" there. But, either way, please check out my suggestion below, no matter what the language in sources is. - The Gnome ( talk)
Special:Diff/1222816958/1222993873 - "cleanup nonsense. you never have to convince two courts, find a better source if you want to include all this. it is contrary to even a basic understanding of US law"
"The appeal would need to convince the District Court, and possibly the Supreme Court" ie. the appeal begins at the District Court, and if SBF looses that, he can appeal to a higher court, which is the SCOTUS, at which point SCOTUS either rules on it, or sends it back to the lower court decision (or directs the lower court to refactor based on some issue with the law). There is no misunderstanding of the law, it is SBF's appeal roadmap: he will need to convince the District Court, and if that doesn't work and he chooses, SCOTUS. This is basic, commonsense, law 101. Nor is it "crystal" (a woefully overused rule on Wikipedia) to note what is the absolutely predetermined legal path open for SBF's appeals process. -- Green C 15:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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In the incarceration history section, please add that he is currently incarcerated at Federal Correctional Institution, Lewisburg https://www.bop.gov/mobile/find_inmate/byname.jsp#inmate_results 2600:100C:A211:7F18:358E:7CD8:2C0A:B889 ( talk) 02:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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@ GreenC: you restored disputed content back to BLP, maybe in violation of WP:BLPRESTORE in this diff. I subsequently tagged it. The source that you added simply contains a quote from the justice department, in which they insert the typical "in the interest of the victims" copy paste text into their press release. As I stated initially this is probably grossly undue for the lead. If you want to keep it (as you have already done), then find some sources where the RS actually states this and not a quote from the US Justice Department. Jtbobwaysf ( talk) 04:56, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
Should "Jewish American" be included in the first sentence? I saw that someone made this change very recently and thought it might deserve discussion first. Thanks! 205.178.63.9 ( talk) 19:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Problem continues. Requested page protection. -- Green C 00:43, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
I would like to request changing the main image of sam bankman fried. i work with esports organization TSM and he is wearing a TSM jersey in this pic, showing half of our logo on his chest. this is the image im reffering too https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sam_Bankman-Fried#/media/File:Sam_Bankman-Fried.png
i would like to suggest to please use this image https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sam_Bankman-Fried#/media/File:MIT_Bitcoin_Expo_2022_-_Sam_Bankman.png
or please crop the existing image to not show top half of our logo on his chest. for reference you can see our logo on www.tsm.gg 209.232.4.17 ( talk) 20:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
What success? Scamming people? This reads like it was written by Bankman-Fried himself. He is a fraudster, he was never a success. Please remove this from the summary. I had done this already and replaced it with the neutral, objective - "At one point, ..." Do not attempt to glamourize this individual with misinformation. He made big bucks through fraud and fraud alone. 2604:3D09:4184:5100:6D85:C839:DA7A:7E2E ( talk) 18:17, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia's encyclopedic mission encompasses the inclusion of material that may offend. And
Wikipedia is not censored. Note that if enough sources qualify B-F as, for example, "one of the most successful fraudsters ever," or some such, then there could not be a strong objection to include the use of that word, "success" or its derivatives, in the article. No " promotion" or " editors' opinions" there. But, either way, please check out my suggestion below, no matter what the language in sources is. - The Gnome ( talk)
Special:Diff/1222816958/1222993873 - "cleanup nonsense. you never have to convince two courts, find a better source if you want to include all this. it is contrary to even a basic understanding of US law"
"The appeal would need to convince the District Court, and possibly the Supreme Court" ie. the appeal begins at the District Court, and if SBF looses that, he can appeal to a higher court, which is the SCOTUS, at which point SCOTUS either rules on it, or sends it back to the lower court decision (or directs the lower court to refactor based on some issue with the law). There is no misunderstanding of the law, it is SBF's appeal roadmap: he will need to convince the District Court, and if that doesn't work and he chooses, SCOTUS. This is basic, commonsense, law 101. Nor is it "crystal" (a woefully overused rule on Wikipedia) to note what is the absolutely predetermined legal path open for SBF's appeals process. -- Green C 15:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
In the incarceration history section, please add that he is currently incarcerated at Federal Correctional Institution, Lewisburg https://www.bop.gov/mobile/find_inmate/byname.jsp#inmate_results 2600:100C:A211:7F18:358E:7CD8:2C0A:B889 ( talk) 02:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)