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This article lacks an NPOV treatment of the subject. In particular, in the background, it fails to mention that the idea of breaking the salt law as mooted by Gandhi was thought to be too weak to stir up the independence movement by Motilal Nehru and others in Congress as well as by the British government which did not anticipate the wide following that Dandi march got. -- Just my 2 cents -- Hemanshu 20:11, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is the Tax Resistance box really relevant to this subject? -- wrighttj
why is there a huge gap just before the 'the march' chapter? am i the only one who can see this? there is no gap in the edit page so whats going on?
This page is nearly identical to http://english.emory.edu/Bahri/Dandi.html, and that page is much better cited. I suspect that this page was copied from that one without proper references and in possible violation of copyright. I think it should be looked into. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.171.61.142 ( talk) 00:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
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I've moved this section to the bottom of the article, since it's not directly relevant to Salt Satyagraha and the events surrounding Salt Satyagraha (unless we put the entire history of British rule, taxes, the making of salt, etc. into the article - which is already on the lengthy side). This is only a placeholder - when I have time in the next few days I'll break this section off into it's own article and have a link from this article to the new one.
Also, this is a GA, and close to FA quality article. The one link referencing this extremely overly long section does not qualify as a Reliable Source under WP:RS - another reason for having its own, non-reliably sourced article. And, this section is still arguably a copyright violation taken from here [1], which is why it was removed the first time. Removing copyright violations is not considered 'blanking', but is part of wikipedia policy. Making only slight edits to text taken from another website is not enough to avoid copyright violations. When the section is moved to its own article, that will still be an issue that needs to be resolved. ~ priyanath talk 18:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Many Indian place names have been changed in recent years, e.g. Poona to Pune, and there are many examples of this in this article. In general, I take the view that articles should reflect the contemporary naming of the events in them, as they form a reference, so (say) an article on the terrorist attacks in Mumbai should say that, with possibly something like " Mumbai (formerly Bombay)" in its first reference - and, contrariwise, an article on the Black Hole of Calcutta should mention Calcutta, with possibly something like " Calcutta (now Kolkata)" in its first reference. This is because the articles are for reference, and people might well be going to or coming from other contemporary source material as references.
Therefore, I feel that this article would benefit from being edited in this way, to reflect the contemporary naming of the 1920s and 1930s. However, I also know that this is a topic that is alive in current Indian discourse, so possibly that might be disruptive in that respect - quite apart from any reflexive reactions from people who are sensitive on the subject. So, can anyone suggest a suitable editing approach for the place names in this article? As it stands, the anachronistic names have made it disconnected from other contemporary material. PMLawrence ( talk) 14:02, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Each of "Dandi March", "Civil Disobedience Movement", and of course "Salt Satyagraha" bring one to this article. Even though each of these three overlap to a large extent, they also have distinct features. For example, picketing of liquor shops or boycotting of foreign cloth would primarily be part of Civil Disobedience Movement (CDM). At present, this theme is not dealt with in detail here, and logically shouldn't be either, since it's not Salt Satyagraha exactly. When next have time, will start a dedicated article on CDM, that has a summary of Dandi March & Salt Satyagraha, but focuses more on the non-salt features. VishalB ( talk) 21:45, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
One full section on the "Choice of salt as protest focus." Has a variety of views on why salt was or was not considered an appropriate vehicle for a national protest movement. Incorporates some facts already present in the article, and adds several new ones, with appropriate references.
Slightly more information added about Dharasana Satyagraha, approx 5-6 additional sentences most relevant to this article. An explicit link to Dharasana ("Main article: Dharasana Satyagraha") has also been given, to emphasize that there is a lot more to that satyagraha. Since Dharasana was a key event of Salt Satyagraha, its name has been put in the relevant section title.
Tried to represent more events from other parts of India (i.e. beyond Gujarat). Added C. Rajagopalachari's views, and his parallel march and arrest on the east Coast, in sync with the main Dandi March.
Miscellaneous info about Dandi March: length of marchers' line swelled to two miles; they used to sing Raghupati Raghava Raja Ram while walking; Gandhi's quote "On bended knees I asked for bread, but I have received stone instead."
Introduction had become slightly fragmented due to several edits over the years. Tried to make it more coherent. Did not add or remove any significant new information here.
Thanks to all previous editors (esp Priyanath) for making it a good article already. VishalB ( talk) 21:45, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
I moved this comment, "The 78 satyagrahis symbolised th unity of the country as it included males and females from different religions along with one harijan who came together for this common cause from different parts of the country", from the article to here, because it was unsourced. I have no objection to including the comment in the article if a reliable source is cited. -- Donald Albury 12:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
independence of mauritius
As a mauritian, I know that 12 March was chosen to be the independence day to commemorate the salt march but I cannot find references to prove it. Please help, by posting a link . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mip130916 ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
The most common name for this event is "Salt March". Most books and articles refer to the event by this name, and few refer to it by the other name. Even in India "Salt March" is the common term. It looks like Salt March has redirected here since 2007 and this has never been discussed previously. I propose a rename to "Salt March" per WP:COMMONNAME. Any comments? Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:29, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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A map of the march would be useful for the readers (for example, something like this). Data could be taken from sources such as [2] or [3]. Razvan Socol ( talk) 20:28, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
The "March to Dandi" section begins "On 12 March 1930, Gandhi and 78 satyagrahis many of them were scheduled castes, set out on foot ..." This is not a correctly structured sentence in American or British English, and I doubt works in Indian English. However, I have absolutely no idea how to correct it. Will somebody who knows what is being talked about please fix? Thx! GeorgeTSLC ( talk) 03:33, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
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This came to my attention when an edit was made changing number set off, from 78 to 72. Dalton's book say 78 [4] and the list of names in the article make 80 [5]. Can someone advise? 90th anniversary next year. Whispyhistory ( talk) 10:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
The number of volunteers in this article is 78 at one place while 79 at the other. The information is inconsistent. TheSilverStone ( talk) 17:02, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Dendi March 2409:4073:4E03:DB44:0:0:F6CA:B810 ( talk) 14:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Mean and small point 2401:4900:5996:D423:0:0:28:9F41 ( talk) 00:40, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Endha kazichath 42.108.124.81 ( talk) 13:54, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
On 12 March 1930, Gandhiji decided to march from Sabarmati Ashram with his supporters to Dandi, a small village on the Gujarat seacoast. It was a part of the Civil Disobedience Movement, which he launched with the full support of the Indian National Congress and the people of India. 115.96.46.48 ( talk) 03:51, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Smg mumm 4w564fa⅔ 122.161.240.59 ( talk) 13:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
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This article lacks an NPOV treatment of the subject. In particular, in the background, it fails to mention that the idea of breaking the salt law as mooted by Gandhi was thought to be too weak to stir up the independence movement by Motilal Nehru and others in Congress as well as by the British government which did not anticipate the wide following that Dandi march got. -- Just my 2 cents -- Hemanshu 20:11, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Is the Tax Resistance box really relevant to this subject? -- wrighttj
why is there a huge gap just before the 'the march' chapter? am i the only one who can see this? there is no gap in the edit page so whats going on?
This page is nearly identical to http://english.emory.edu/Bahri/Dandi.html, and that page is much better cited. I suspect that this page was copied from that one without proper references and in possible violation of copyright. I think it should be looked into. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.171.61.142 ( talk) 00:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of February 24, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:
If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— - J Logan t: 13:03, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I've moved this section to the bottom of the article, since it's not directly relevant to Salt Satyagraha and the events surrounding Salt Satyagraha (unless we put the entire history of British rule, taxes, the making of salt, etc. into the article - which is already on the lengthy side). This is only a placeholder - when I have time in the next few days I'll break this section off into it's own article and have a link from this article to the new one.
Also, this is a GA, and close to FA quality article. The one link referencing this extremely overly long section does not qualify as a Reliable Source under WP:RS - another reason for having its own, non-reliably sourced article. And, this section is still arguably a copyright violation taken from here [1], which is why it was removed the first time. Removing copyright violations is not considered 'blanking', but is part of wikipedia policy. Making only slight edits to text taken from another website is not enough to avoid copyright violations. When the section is moved to its own article, that will still be an issue that needs to be resolved. ~ priyanath talk 18:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Many Indian place names have been changed in recent years, e.g. Poona to Pune, and there are many examples of this in this article. In general, I take the view that articles should reflect the contemporary naming of the events in them, as they form a reference, so (say) an article on the terrorist attacks in Mumbai should say that, with possibly something like " Mumbai (formerly Bombay)" in its first reference - and, contrariwise, an article on the Black Hole of Calcutta should mention Calcutta, with possibly something like " Calcutta (now Kolkata)" in its first reference. This is because the articles are for reference, and people might well be going to or coming from other contemporary source material as references.
Therefore, I feel that this article would benefit from being edited in this way, to reflect the contemporary naming of the 1920s and 1930s. However, I also know that this is a topic that is alive in current Indian discourse, so possibly that might be disruptive in that respect - quite apart from any reflexive reactions from people who are sensitive on the subject. So, can anyone suggest a suitable editing approach for the place names in this article? As it stands, the anachronistic names have made it disconnected from other contemporary material. PMLawrence ( talk) 14:02, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Each of "Dandi March", "Civil Disobedience Movement", and of course "Salt Satyagraha" bring one to this article. Even though each of these three overlap to a large extent, they also have distinct features. For example, picketing of liquor shops or boycotting of foreign cloth would primarily be part of Civil Disobedience Movement (CDM). At present, this theme is not dealt with in detail here, and logically shouldn't be either, since it's not Salt Satyagraha exactly. When next have time, will start a dedicated article on CDM, that has a summary of Dandi March & Salt Satyagraha, but focuses more on the non-salt features. VishalB ( talk) 21:45, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
One full section on the "Choice of salt as protest focus." Has a variety of views on why salt was or was not considered an appropriate vehicle for a national protest movement. Incorporates some facts already present in the article, and adds several new ones, with appropriate references.
Slightly more information added about Dharasana Satyagraha, approx 5-6 additional sentences most relevant to this article. An explicit link to Dharasana ("Main article: Dharasana Satyagraha") has also been given, to emphasize that there is a lot more to that satyagraha. Since Dharasana was a key event of Salt Satyagraha, its name has been put in the relevant section title.
Tried to represent more events from other parts of India (i.e. beyond Gujarat). Added C. Rajagopalachari's views, and his parallel march and arrest on the east Coast, in sync with the main Dandi March.
Miscellaneous info about Dandi March: length of marchers' line swelled to two miles; they used to sing Raghupati Raghava Raja Ram while walking; Gandhi's quote "On bended knees I asked for bread, but I have received stone instead."
Introduction had become slightly fragmented due to several edits over the years. Tried to make it more coherent. Did not add or remove any significant new information here.
Thanks to all previous editors (esp Priyanath) for making it a good article already. VishalB ( talk) 21:45, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
I moved this comment, "The 78 satyagrahis symbolised th unity of the country as it included males and females from different religions along with one harijan who came together for this common cause from different parts of the country", from the article to here, because it was unsourced. I have no objection to including the comment in the article if a reliable source is cited. -- Donald Albury 12:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
independence of mauritius
As a mauritian, I know that 12 March was chosen to be the independence day to commemorate the salt march but I cannot find references to prove it. Please help, by posting a link . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mip130916 ( talk • contribs) 20:36, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
The most common name for this event is "Salt March". Most books and articles refer to the event by this name, and few refer to it by the other name. Even in India "Salt March" is the common term. It looks like Salt March has redirected here since 2007 and this has never been discussed previously. I propose a rename to "Salt March" per WP:COMMONNAME. Any comments? Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:29, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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A map of the march would be useful for the readers (for example, something like this). Data could be taken from sources such as [2] or [3]. Razvan Socol ( talk) 20:28, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
The "March to Dandi" section begins "On 12 March 1930, Gandhi and 78 satyagrahis many of them were scheduled castes, set out on foot ..." This is not a correctly structured sentence in American or British English, and I doubt works in Indian English. However, I have absolutely no idea how to correct it. Will somebody who knows what is being talked about please fix? Thx! GeorgeTSLC ( talk) 03:33, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
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This came to my attention when an edit was made changing number set off, from 78 to 72. Dalton's book say 78 [4] and the list of names in the article make 80 [5]. Can someone advise? 90th anniversary next year. Whispyhistory ( talk) 10:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
The number of volunteers in this article is 78 at one place while 79 at the other. The information is inconsistent. TheSilverStone ( talk) 17:02, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Dendi March 2409:4073:4E03:DB44:0:0:F6CA:B810 ( talk) 14:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Mean and small point 2401:4900:5996:D423:0:0:28:9F41 ( talk) 00:40, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Endha kazichath 42.108.124.81 ( talk) 13:54, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
On 12 March 1930, Gandhiji decided to march from Sabarmati Ashram with his supporters to Dandi, a small village on the Gujarat seacoast. It was a part of the Civil Disobedience Movement, which he launched with the full support of the Indian National Congress and the people of India. 115.96.46.48 ( talk) 03:51, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
Smg mumm 4w564fa⅔ 122.161.240.59 ( talk) 13:20, 3 April 2024 (UTC)