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This article still reads like an advertisment produced by Salesforce.com marketing. The first paragraph which should simply describe what this product is. Move the accolades to a section that includes criticism for a balanced look Tylerchill ( talk) 22:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
This article reads like it was produced by a marketing firm (and it very likely was). It sounds more like a press release or the introduction to an annual report than a NPOV encyclopedia article. Therefore, I have added the advert tag. If you are knowledgeable enough about salesforce to edit this into a more formal, NPOV, and encyclopedic format (I am not), please do so. Kwertii 22:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I've gotten rid of some advertising/marketese type stuff (apparently that's not the first time this has happened), but it could use some additional work on NPOV and less ad tone. I'll keep an eye on it as well. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:52, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
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Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:External_Links) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.152.0.58 ( talk) 10:45, August 23, 2007 (UTC)
It may have been changed (I can never figure out the history page), but as a user of SF, I think this looks pretty NPOV. There is no "this app is the best in the world and the other ones pale in comparison" type of things that I would consider NPOV. Citable sources are definitely needed, but at the risk of incensing others, I am going to remove the ad tag. Mechroneal 16:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
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I propose that the first reference to Salesforce.com stay, and change all following references in the body of the article to Salesforce only, without the ".com" (which is how it's more commonly referred to in conversation). Any disagreements? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crysb ( talk • contribs) 13:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Salesforce.com is only used in financial documents, I guess. Otherwise both the company and the product are called Salesforce. It is better to standardize the article with Salesforce. Amart13 ( talk) 11:38, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Requesting comment on this language "This reinforces the view that Salesforce arbitrarily change features offered with no explanation." "The view" is particularly difficult to cite and seems POV to me. Additionally, this (if true) seems like a minor feature grievance and I'm not sure if it is relevant or valuable to article viewers. Is it proper to relocate to criticisms or remove this language? Midlakewinter ( talk) 12:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I recognized the Chatter commercials in the Super Bowl XLV halftime show and described their relations to the Black Eyed Peas and Will.i.am. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.8.42 ( talk) 01:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
A lot of the entry's content is specific to salesforce.com's product and not the company itself. I would think it makes sense to vastly slim down that content. Using Hubspot#Products_and_services as a model. Any thoughts? Midlakewinter ( talk) 22:31, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
In the main text, it says "The Company was founded in March 1996..." yet in the box on the right it says 1999. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.31.4 ( talk) 19:15, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to propose merging the Force.com article into Salesforce.com. Though Force.com is mentioned in the New York Times, this is not a sufficient reason to create a separate article about the product. The section on the product in Force.com is unsourced, so will benefit from the NYT article to verify it exists. Failing a merger, the Force.com article is ripe for a Articles for Deletion discussion IMO. Sionk ( talk) 18:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
The article has a very confusing list of products/services offered by Salesforce Inc. I'm responsible for merging Force.com with Salesforce.com but yet I have only the most basic understanding of the overlapping terms, sales jargon and product suite titles. Not to mention all the acquisitions that were also re-branded and merged into the "Salseforce1 platform" (or whatever they call the overall platform).
Can someone with some knowledge of the product line please clean it up, while refraining from inserting meaningless statements such as "Sales Cloud" as the titles of the sections. I've renamed the sections to follow a single standard, which is the domain name. Thus Salesforce.com, Work.com and so on. Please stick to this system since it improves understanding of a very confusing product line. Please improve the sections requiring expansion (messages added into article itself). Any other changes may be suggested and/or implemented. -- Wonderfl (reply) 17:21, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ErikHaugen ( talk | contribs) 18:39, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Salesforce.com → Salesforce – Seems strange to have the company's URL as the title of the page. The company is called Salesforce or Salesforce Inc., not salesforce.com relisted-- Mike Cline ( talk) 17:48, 23 April 2015 (UTC) Kaladinrahl ( talk) 15:24, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
How else would one pronounce "salesforce 1"? 108.225.17.141 ( talk) 23:51, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hey, I'm not a regular editor, but I noticed that the Salesforce Lightning section links to a partner blog. Shouldn't it lead to the official Salesfoce site for it instead? https://www.salesforce.com/eu/campaign/lightning/
Markus.lautenbach ( talk) 16:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
So called "case study". This ref, "Purkayastha, Debapratim and Chakraborty, Barnali (2020). "Corporate Culture and HR Practices at Salesforce.com, Inc.|Human Resource and Organization Behavior|Case Study|Case Studies". icmrindia.org. Retrieved June 14, 2020." Is total puff, to say the least. Reading the abstract of it (the rest is conveniently behind a paywall) is enough to tell that this is not something to base the corporate culture section on. I'll include the abstract below.
Founded in 1999, Salesforce began its journey as a company specializing in software as a service (SaaS). In 2020, it became a global leader in customer relationship management, or CRM, software. According to analysts, a strong corporate culture and HR practices were a huge driving force behind its continuous business success. The case discusses in detail Salesforce’s culture based on the concept of Ohana, a deep-rooted support system nurtured inside the company. In addition, the company’s culture emphasized certain core values, behaviors, and experiences. The case then sets out to describe how the company managed to make Salesforce a great place to work and maintained this position as it continued to grow. The case also explores the company’s HR practices. Salesforce’s focus on employee wellbeing is also explained in detail. The leaders at Salesforce believed that its culture fostered dialogue, collaboration, recognition, and a sense of family, and helped its employees drive the company’s purpose, vision, and impact. The case ends with a discussion on whether Salesforce’s unique culture could be preserved as it continued to grow.
Who are these mysterious "analysts"? Lots of ambiguous language. Written like a scientific study, but it's a load of puff.
Goodbye to this ref, and anything it backs up, because the stuff it does, is basically paraphrased from it. The Alternate Mako ( talk) 13:18, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Removed the puff reference and the puff it propped up. Also found an issue with the only other ref in the "positive" lead of this section. Not looking good here. The Alternate Mako ( talk) 13:33, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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@ Ohnoitsjamie I have updated the content and please approve, if it is not under the WP policy . Rakish ( talk) 03:24, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
I tried to add the 2020 Evergage acquisition but I can't figure out the markup to include it. If someone wants to add it...?
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/salesforce-acquires-evergage-will-use-personalization-to-enhance-customer-data-and-deliver-more-relevant-experiences-301000691.html Nikjft ( talk) 17:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
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This article still reads like an advertisment produced by Salesforce.com marketing. The first paragraph which should simply describe what this product is. Move the accolades to a section that includes criticism for a balanced look Tylerchill ( talk) 22:11, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
This article reads like it was produced by a marketing firm (and it very likely was). It sounds more like a press release or the introduction to an annual report than a NPOV encyclopedia article. Therefore, I have added the advert tag. If you are knowledgeable enough about salesforce to edit this into a more formal, NPOV, and encyclopedic format (I am not), please do so. Kwertii 22:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I've gotten rid of some advertising/marketese type stuff (apparently that's not the first time this has happened), but it could use some additional work on NPOV and less ad tone. I'll keep an eye on it as well. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:52, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
"What should be linked
Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article, such as reviews and interviews." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:External_Links) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.152.0.58 ( talk) 10:45, August 23, 2007 (UTC)
It may have been changed (I can never figure out the history page), but as a user of SF, I think this looks pretty NPOV. There is no "this app is the best in the world and the other ones pale in comparison" type of things that I would consider NPOV. Citable sources are definitely needed, but at the risk of incensing others, I am going to remove the ad tag. Mechroneal 16:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello folks, I manage social media at salesforce.com, and I officially represent them on Wikipedia. I am not new to Wikipedia, and I know, and will play by the rules. This article is sub-par, and I'd like to help in any way I can. In the immediate time frame, I can:
In a slightly longer timeframe, I'd like to help improve the flow & content of this article.
- Kingsley2.com ( talk) 00:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
I propose that the first reference to Salesforce.com stay, and change all following references in the body of the article to Salesforce only, without the ".com" (which is how it's more commonly referred to in conversation). Any disagreements? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crysb ( talk • contribs) 13:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Salesforce.com is only used in financial documents, I guess. Otherwise both the company and the product are called Salesforce. It is better to standardize the article with Salesforce. Amart13 ( talk) 11:38, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Requesting comment on this language "This reinforces the view that Salesforce arbitrarily change features offered with no explanation." "The view" is particularly difficult to cite and seems POV to me. Additionally, this (if true) seems like a minor feature grievance and I'm not sure if it is relevant or valuable to article viewers. Is it proper to relocate to criticisms or remove this language? Midlakewinter ( talk) 12:16, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
I recognized the Chatter commercials in the Super Bowl XLV halftime show and described their relations to the Black Eyed Peas and Will.i.am. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.8.42 ( talk) 01:38, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
A lot of the entry's content is specific to salesforce.com's product and not the company itself. I would think it makes sense to vastly slim down that content. Using Hubspot#Products_and_services as a model. Any thoughts? Midlakewinter ( talk) 22:31, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
In the main text, it says "The Company was founded in March 1996..." yet in the box on the right it says 1999. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.31.4 ( talk) 19:15, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to propose merging the Force.com article into Salesforce.com. Though Force.com is mentioned in the New York Times, this is not a sufficient reason to create a separate article about the product. The section on the product in Force.com is unsourced, so will benefit from the NYT article to verify it exists. Failing a merger, the Force.com article is ripe for a Articles for Deletion discussion IMO. Sionk ( talk) 18:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
The article has a very confusing list of products/services offered by Salesforce Inc. I'm responsible for merging Force.com with Salesforce.com but yet I have only the most basic understanding of the overlapping terms, sales jargon and product suite titles. Not to mention all the acquisitions that were also re-branded and merged into the "Salseforce1 platform" (or whatever they call the overall platform).
Can someone with some knowledge of the product line please clean it up, while refraining from inserting meaningless statements such as "Sales Cloud" as the titles of the sections. I've renamed the sections to follow a single standard, which is the domain name. Thus Salesforce.com, Work.com and so on. Please stick to this system since it improves understanding of a very confusing product line. Please improve the sections requiring expansion (messages added into article itself). Any other changes may be suggested and/or implemented. -- Wonderfl (reply) 17:21, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ErikHaugen ( talk | contribs) 18:39, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Salesforce.com → Salesforce – Seems strange to have the company's URL as the title of the page. The company is called Salesforce or Salesforce Inc., not salesforce.com relisted-- Mike Cline ( talk) 17:48, 23 April 2015 (UTC) Kaladinrahl ( talk) 15:24, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
How else would one pronounce "salesforce 1"? 108.225.17.141 ( talk) 23:51, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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Hey, I'm not a regular editor, but I noticed that the Salesforce Lightning section links to a partner blog. Shouldn't it lead to the official Salesfoce site for it instead? https://www.salesforce.com/eu/campaign/lightning/
Markus.lautenbach ( talk) 16:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
So called "case study". This ref, "Purkayastha, Debapratim and Chakraborty, Barnali (2020). "Corporate Culture and HR Practices at Salesforce.com, Inc.|Human Resource and Organization Behavior|Case Study|Case Studies". icmrindia.org. Retrieved June 14, 2020." Is total puff, to say the least. Reading the abstract of it (the rest is conveniently behind a paywall) is enough to tell that this is not something to base the corporate culture section on. I'll include the abstract below.
Founded in 1999, Salesforce began its journey as a company specializing in software as a service (SaaS). In 2020, it became a global leader in customer relationship management, or CRM, software. According to analysts, a strong corporate culture and HR practices were a huge driving force behind its continuous business success. The case discusses in detail Salesforce’s culture based on the concept of Ohana, a deep-rooted support system nurtured inside the company. In addition, the company’s culture emphasized certain core values, behaviors, and experiences. The case then sets out to describe how the company managed to make Salesforce a great place to work and maintained this position as it continued to grow. The case also explores the company’s HR practices. Salesforce’s focus on employee wellbeing is also explained in detail. The leaders at Salesforce believed that its culture fostered dialogue, collaboration, recognition, and a sense of family, and helped its employees drive the company’s purpose, vision, and impact. The case ends with a discussion on whether Salesforce’s unique culture could be preserved as it continued to grow.
Who are these mysterious "analysts"? Lots of ambiguous language. Written like a scientific study, but it's a load of puff.
Goodbye to this ref, and anything it backs up, because the stuff it does, is basically paraphrased from it. The Alternate Mako ( talk) 13:18, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Removed the puff reference and the puff it propped up. Also found an issue with the only other ref in the "positive" lead of this section. Not looking good here. The Alternate Mako ( talk) 13:33, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
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Annasf3986 ( talk) 20:02, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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@ Ohnoitsjamie I have updated the content and please approve, if it is not under the WP policy . Rakish ( talk) 03:24, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
I tried to add the 2020 Evergage acquisition but I can't figure out the markup to include it. If someone wants to add it...?
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/salesforce-acquires-evergage-will-use-personalization-to-enhance-customer-data-and-deliver-more-relevant-experiences-301000691.html Nikjft ( talk) 17:53, 18 March 2024 (UTC)