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I notice you call Simeon " emperor", but I think it should be tsar. I know that car means "emperor" in modern Serbian, and the word did mean "emperor" in the Slavic language of Simeon's days, but the Russian and Bulgarian titles are traditionally rendered as tsar in English (even though "the Bulgarian empire" is an existent notion in English, unlike Bulgarian). BTW, the word has come to mean just "king" in modern Russian and Bulgarian. -- 85.187.44.131 11:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
If there are other sources than Anonymus, that would answer my questions but if he is te only source, the article is rather vaguely written -- KIDB 06:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I based my edits on the Gesta text itself. If Gesta Hungarorm was the only source of your scientists, they manipulated their results. The map they made doesn't correspond to the Gesta text either. Please read the original text, it is available in Hungarian and in Latin on the net. If you don't understand these languages, ask a Hungarian friend to read them for you - he/she will confirm I am right. Please note that I am not saying there were no Bulgarian (or Slavic) rulers in the area, I only think that it is not sure their name was Salan and their lands were just as described in the Legend. If we fully believed what is written there, we should agree that Árpád was the descendent of Attila and Russian borders reached the Carpathians in the 5-6th century. -- KIDB 08:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I moved the map here because I think it is not correct. According to the text of Gesta Hungarorum, the borders of the lands controlled by the (imaginary or real) ruler called Salanus were in present-day Northern Hungary.
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I notice you call Simeon " emperor", but I think it should be tsar. I know that car means "emperor" in modern Serbian, and the word did mean "emperor" in the Slavic language of Simeon's days, but the Russian and Bulgarian titles are traditionally rendered as tsar in English (even though "the Bulgarian empire" is an existent notion in English, unlike Bulgarian). BTW, the word has come to mean just "king" in modern Russian and Bulgarian. -- 85.187.44.131 11:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
If there are other sources than Anonymus, that would answer my questions but if he is te only source, the article is rather vaguely written -- KIDB 06:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I based my edits on the Gesta text itself. If Gesta Hungarorm was the only source of your scientists, they manipulated their results. The map they made doesn't correspond to the Gesta text either. Please read the original text, it is available in Hungarian and in Latin on the net. If you don't understand these languages, ask a Hungarian friend to read them for you - he/she will confirm I am right. Please note that I am not saying there were no Bulgarian (or Slavic) rulers in the area, I only think that it is not sure their name was Salan and their lands were just as described in the Legend. If we fully believed what is written there, we should agree that Árpád was the descendent of Attila and Russian borders reached the Carpathians in the 5-6th century. -- KIDB 08:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I moved the map here because I think it is not correct. According to the text of Gesta Hungarorum, the borders of the lands controlled by the (imaginary or real) ruler called Salanus were in present-day Northern Hungary.
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