This article is within the scope of WikiProject Architecture, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Architecture on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ArchitectureWikipedia:WikiProject ArchitectureTemplate:WikiProject ArchitectureArchitecture articles
St Thomas' Church, Strasbourg is within the scope of WikiProject Catholicism, an attempt to better organize and improve the quality of information in articles related to the
Catholic Church. For more information, visit the
project page.CatholicismWikipedia:WikiProject CatholicismTemplate:WikiProject CatholicismCatholicism articles
St Thomas' Church, Strasbourg is part of WikiProject Lutheranism, an effort to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Lutheranism on Wikipedia. This includes but is not limited to Lutheran churches, Lutheran theology and worship, and biographies of notable Lutherans. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the
project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the
discussion.LutheranismWikipedia:WikiProject LutheranismTemplate:WikiProject LutheranismLutheranism articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject France, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
France on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FranceWikipedia:WikiProject FranceTemplate:WikiProject FranceFrance articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Historic sites, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
historic sites on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Historic sitesWikipedia:WikiProject Historic sitesTemplate:WikiProject Historic sitesHistoric sites articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pipe Organ, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Pipe Organ on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Pipe OrganWikipedia:WikiProject Pipe OrganTemplate:WikiProject Pipe OrganPipe organ articles
"It" being the article? Said so on what source(s)? - For those who didn't notice: It was moved from
St. Thomas, Strasbourg to
Church of Saint Thomas, Strasbourg, while other French churches come by their French name, or a translation which works for building and parish, in English commonly with "St" or "St." instead of "Saint". - I vote for moving it back to the simple, internationally understood name, and rather change the article. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
14:23, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
No, but I may find some if I looked for them. However, it is *you* who should provide "legal arguments" (so to speak) in favour of the move you did, not me against it. After all, we should have had this discussion before, not afterwards. --
Edelseider (
talk)
15:44, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
But Saint-Sulpice ist also the name of a Paris métro station! It would be ambiguous in any case. You have also picked a rather bad example. Jerusalem, Paris... why do you people always have to choose the
A-listers?
Edelseider (
talk)
15:56, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
So, should the page be moved further to "Saint-Thomas, Strasbourg", or back, to "St. Thomas, Strasbourg"? Provided, of course, it is moved (again). As I wrote, I would just move it back to where it was for years. --
Edelseider (
talk)
16:13, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I suggest you move it back, as obiously not uncontroversial, and whoever wants to move it should better find consensus before on the talk. We are not obliged to follow an English pattern for a French church. Coming from
St. Martin, Idstein, Germany. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
17:12, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I am sure that even in German, the phrase "as obviously not uncontroversial" sounds vague. Da offensichtlich nicht unumstritten... that's paralyzing! I won't do anything (yet). All the best,
Edelseider (
talk)
17:30, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
If we followed the norm for churches in England, it would be "St Thomas' Church, Strasbourg. This pattern is used for
St Thomas' Church, Copenhagen. Incidentally, the full stop after "St" is inappropriate.
By the way, I have come out of semi-retirement to comment on this matter, because I used to live right next door to this church and I care about it.
LynwoodF (
talk)
16:36, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Yes, but "formula" suggested (to me) that it would be good to be used generally, and I don't think so. For my church, it would not be a common name, and simply wrong for the parish part. If "St Thomas' Church, Strasbourg" is a common name for this church, I don't know ;) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
10:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I have just modified 2 external links on
St Thomas' Church, Strasbourg. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit
this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).
If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with
this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with
this tool.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Architecture, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Architecture on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ArchitectureWikipedia:WikiProject ArchitectureTemplate:WikiProject ArchitectureArchitecture articles
St Thomas' Church, Strasbourg is within the scope of WikiProject Catholicism, an attempt to better organize and improve the quality of information in articles related to the
Catholic Church. For more information, visit the
project page.CatholicismWikipedia:WikiProject CatholicismTemplate:WikiProject CatholicismCatholicism articles
St Thomas' Church, Strasbourg is part of WikiProject Lutheranism, an effort to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Lutheranism on Wikipedia. This includes but is not limited to Lutheran churches, Lutheran theology and worship, and biographies of notable Lutherans. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the
project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the
discussion.LutheranismWikipedia:WikiProject LutheranismTemplate:WikiProject LutheranismLutheranism articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject France, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
France on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FranceWikipedia:WikiProject FranceTemplate:WikiProject FranceFrance articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Historic sites, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
historic sites on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Historic sitesWikipedia:WikiProject Historic sitesTemplate:WikiProject Historic sitesHistoric sites articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pipe Organ, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Pipe Organ on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Pipe OrganWikipedia:WikiProject Pipe OrganTemplate:WikiProject Pipe OrganPipe organ articles
"It" being the article? Said so on what source(s)? - For those who didn't notice: It was moved from
St. Thomas, Strasbourg to
Church of Saint Thomas, Strasbourg, while other French churches come by their French name, or a translation which works for building and parish, in English commonly with "St" or "St." instead of "Saint". - I vote for moving it back to the simple, internationally understood name, and rather change the article. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
14:23, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
No, but I may find some if I looked for them. However, it is *you* who should provide "legal arguments" (so to speak) in favour of the move you did, not me against it. After all, we should have had this discussion before, not afterwards. --
Edelseider (
talk)
15:44, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
But Saint-Sulpice ist also the name of a Paris métro station! It would be ambiguous in any case. You have also picked a rather bad example. Jerusalem, Paris... why do you people always have to choose the
A-listers?
Edelseider (
talk)
15:56, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
So, should the page be moved further to "Saint-Thomas, Strasbourg", or back, to "St. Thomas, Strasbourg"? Provided, of course, it is moved (again). As I wrote, I would just move it back to where it was for years. --
Edelseider (
talk)
16:13, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I suggest you move it back, as obiously not uncontroversial, and whoever wants to move it should better find consensus before on the talk. We are not obliged to follow an English pattern for a French church. Coming from
St. Martin, Idstein, Germany. --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
17:12, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I am sure that even in German, the phrase "as obviously not uncontroversial" sounds vague. Da offensichtlich nicht unumstritten... that's paralyzing! I won't do anything (yet). All the best,
Edelseider (
talk)
17:30, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
If we followed the norm for churches in England, it would be "St Thomas' Church, Strasbourg. This pattern is used for
St Thomas' Church, Copenhagen. Incidentally, the full stop after "St" is inappropriate.
By the way, I have come out of semi-retirement to comment on this matter, because I used to live right next door to this church and I care about it.
LynwoodF (
talk)
16:36, 20 March 2017 (UTC)reply
Yes, but "formula" suggested (to me) that it would be good to be used generally, and I don't think so. For my church, it would not be a common name, and simply wrong for the parish part. If "St Thomas' Church, Strasbourg" is a common name for this church, I don't know ;) --
Gerda Arendt (
talk)
10:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)reply
I have just modified 2 external links on
St Thomas' Church, Strasbourg. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit
this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).
If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with
this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with
this tool.