Saiga semi-automatic rifle was a Warfare good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
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Good job, Weepy, but IMO, some of the info, like cleaning, seems too informal and out of place in an encyclopedia.
Article says that the bolt does not stay open after last shot. This is not true. While it is true that removal of the magazine will release the bolt (defeating the whole point of a bolt hold open) nevertheless bolt stays open on last shot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.10.0 ( talk) 06:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey thanks for the advice, I appreciate any criticisms and help that would make this article better. Weepy89 ( talk) 21:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
A good start. I found the infobox for weapons, and you'll need to fill that out more. I did what I could, but there isn't enough info in the article to complete the specifications (and there should be). You need a section or subsection that clearly differentiates the changes between the combat rifle and the sporter version. I have no idea what the list at the end is for. Grammatically, this needs to improve somewhat. I'm going to add this to the list on the military history project, to see if someone will give you an assist. Auntieruth55 ( talk) 00:26, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
It seems like you did a good job with your information, but there were a little glitchy spots in the description and Operation section. I would suggest trying to reword some sentences to give the section more sentence variety in the Operation section. Also, you should go through your wiki links and ensure they direct to the page you want them to because a few were not going to places intended. For example, barrel I think you want to link to [gun barrel|barrel]]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mzwhiz21 ( talk • contribs) 14:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Reviewer: Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:27, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
This article isn't too bad so far, but it's a way from good article status. The biggest concerns is the lack of citing, with many sections being unsourced. Anything controversial should be cited, and at least one cite per paragraph. There are some sentences that are rather confusing as well. Namely, "The rifle is different in that many aspects as well." where I think 'that' is an unnecessary word to add in, doesn't make sense as is. Also, the sporter rifle definition feels a little clustered without wikilinks, cites, etc. in the first long paragraph. As a result I'm failing the article as is. When the issues are fixed, it can be renominated at GAN. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:27, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Reviewer: – MuZemike 19:57, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
This is currently in the article what I noticed.
Failed – I'm sorry, but despite the improvements from the first GAN several days ago, this article still has quite a ways before it can reach GA. I noticed the peer review in the article didn't do terribly much to suggest further improvements to the article or to indicate whichever shortcomings there were, and that's not your fault. Here are my suggestions as to what you can do to help get the article up to GA standards:
Hopefully this helps you out a bit more. – MuZemike 19:57, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
For Saiga rifles chambered in 7.62x39, a magazine designed for an AK-47 and not a Saiga rifle will not fully engage due to the thickness of the material used on the magazine catch of the Saiga rifle. However, an AK-74 style magazine, such as the steel ones used on Polish Tantal rifles, and Bulgarian synthetic magazines, fit and engage just fine on Saiga rifles chambered in 5.45x39. 70.119.53.63 ( talk) 09:34, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Additionally, Saiga rifles chambered in 7.62x39, 5.45x39, and .223, will function and have the ability to chamber and remove a round (although possibly not reliably, though results vary) using non-Saiga magazines (such as ones made for the AK-47 and AK-74 series of rifles) AND without the use of a bullet-guide, which is not a feature of the Saiga rifle as this feature was built into the design of the Saiga magazine. A common issue associated with using non-Saiga magazines in a Saiga rifle without an aftermarket bullet-guide installed is a failure-to-feed the last round of the magazine, with the other 29 rounds (if we're talking about a 30 round magazine) cycling in an acceptable manner.
Therefore, stating that the Saiga line of rifles cannot function without a bullet-guide or without a Saiga-specific magazine is wrong. Due to this, I modified the wording of the article to state that the rifle may not function reliably, instead of using will not function reliably which seems to denote that all Saiga rifles behave the same 70.119.53.63 ( talk) 05:02, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Can we shoot 5.56 nato cartridge on saiga 223 Rem rifle ??? 203.135.45.46 ( talk) 01:48, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
Saiga semi-automatic rifle was a Warfare good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
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Good job, Weepy, but IMO, some of the info, like cleaning, seems too informal and out of place in an encyclopedia.
Article says that the bolt does not stay open after last shot. This is not true. While it is true that removal of the magazine will release the bolt (defeating the whole point of a bolt hold open) nevertheless bolt stays open on last shot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.10.0 ( talk) 06:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey thanks for the advice, I appreciate any criticisms and help that would make this article better. Weepy89 ( talk) 21:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
A good start. I found the infobox for weapons, and you'll need to fill that out more. I did what I could, but there isn't enough info in the article to complete the specifications (and there should be). You need a section or subsection that clearly differentiates the changes between the combat rifle and the sporter version. I have no idea what the list at the end is for. Grammatically, this needs to improve somewhat. I'm going to add this to the list on the military history project, to see if someone will give you an assist. Auntieruth55 ( talk) 00:26, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
It seems like you did a good job with your information, but there were a little glitchy spots in the description and Operation section. I would suggest trying to reword some sentences to give the section more sentence variety in the Operation section. Also, you should go through your wiki links and ensure they direct to the page you want them to because a few were not going to places intended. For example, barrel I think you want to link to [gun barrel|barrel]]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mzwhiz21 ( talk • contribs) 14:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Reviewer: Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:27, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
This article isn't too bad so far, but it's a way from good article status. The biggest concerns is the lack of citing, with many sections being unsourced. Anything controversial should be cited, and at least one cite per paragraph. There are some sentences that are rather confusing as well. Namely, "The rifle is different in that many aspects as well." where I think 'that' is an unnecessary word to add in, doesn't make sense as is. Also, the sporter rifle definition feels a little clustered without wikilinks, cites, etc. in the first long paragraph. As a result I'm failing the article as is. When the issues are fixed, it can be renominated at GAN. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:27, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Reviewer: – MuZemike 19:57, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
This is currently in the article what I noticed.
Failed – I'm sorry, but despite the improvements from the first GAN several days ago, this article still has quite a ways before it can reach GA. I noticed the peer review in the article didn't do terribly much to suggest further improvements to the article or to indicate whichever shortcomings there were, and that's not your fault. Here are my suggestions as to what you can do to help get the article up to GA standards:
Hopefully this helps you out a bit more. – MuZemike 19:57, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
For Saiga rifles chambered in 7.62x39, a magazine designed for an AK-47 and not a Saiga rifle will not fully engage due to the thickness of the material used on the magazine catch of the Saiga rifle. However, an AK-74 style magazine, such as the steel ones used on Polish Tantal rifles, and Bulgarian synthetic magazines, fit and engage just fine on Saiga rifles chambered in 5.45x39. 70.119.53.63 ( talk) 09:34, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Additionally, Saiga rifles chambered in 7.62x39, 5.45x39, and .223, will function and have the ability to chamber and remove a round (although possibly not reliably, though results vary) using non-Saiga magazines (such as ones made for the AK-47 and AK-74 series of rifles) AND without the use of a bullet-guide, which is not a feature of the Saiga rifle as this feature was built into the design of the Saiga magazine. A common issue associated with using non-Saiga magazines in a Saiga rifle without an aftermarket bullet-guide installed is a failure-to-feed the last round of the magazine, with the other 29 rounds (if we're talking about a 30 round magazine) cycling in an acceptable manner.
Therefore, stating that the Saiga line of rifles cannot function without a bullet-guide or without a Saiga-specific magazine is wrong. Due to this, I modified the wording of the article to state that the rifle may not function reliably, instead of using will not function reliably which seems to denote that all Saiga rifles behave the same 70.119.53.63 ( talk) 05:02, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Can we shoot 5.56 nato cartridge on saiga 223 Rem rifle ??? 203.135.45.46 ( talk) 01:48, 10 December 2021 (UTC)