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I just reviewed the guideline at
WP:DABNAME for another move request. It states: "The title of a disambiguation page is the ambiguous term itself, provided there is no primary topic for that term. If there is a primary topic, then the tag "(disambiguation)" is added to the name of the disambiguation page, as in
Jupiter (disambiguation). It is also acceptable to create a page at "Term ABC (disambiguation)" that redirects to a disambiguation page at "Term ABC". This type of redirect can be used to indicate deliberate links to the disambiguation page."
Since it's not immediately clear to me that this article is "
the primary topic" for the name "Sahagún" (what about the
Sahagún, Córdoba municipality?), you're probably correct that it needs to be renamed. I don't think that moving it to
Sahagún is a solution, though. Looking around at other moderately sized place names (Check through
Category:Cities by country), I would think that
Sahagún, León would be a more appropriate title.
Wikipedia:PLACE#Disambiguation seems to support this, as well.
The fact that incoming links don't need to be disambiguated isn't an endorsement of the current title, it's an artifact from the high level of maintenance which Wikipedia receives. Additionally, Wikipedia is not itself a
reliable source, so based on both points even if every link without exception pointed to
Sahagún, that wouldn't support a change in and of itself (see
WP:PRIMARY for further amplification). If a
WP:COMMONNAME is available, then that should be established through references so that it can be verified. I also don't see any obvious "historical importance" associated with the town. I'm still left with the opinion that
Sahagún, León would be the more appropriate title, and that
Sahagún (disambiguation) should me moved to
Sahagún. —
V = I * R (
talk)
20:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)reply
"Roughly similar in nature is Las
crónicas anónimas de Sahagún, an account of the fortunes and misfortunes of the most important royal abbey of León-Castilla from the beginning of Urraca's reign until 1117. Although its interest also is something else than the history of the reign as such, Sahagún was so central to the realm and its dynasty that again it supplies invaluable if erratic information." From
Reilly (1982), xi.
216.8.144.218 (
talk)
20:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 29 September 2014
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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
I just reviewed the guideline at
WP:DABNAME for another move request. It states: "The title of a disambiguation page is the ambiguous term itself, provided there is no primary topic for that term. If there is a primary topic, then the tag "(disambiguation)" is added to the name of the disambiguation page, as in
Jupiter (disambiguation). It is also acceptable to create a page at "Term ABC (disambiguation)" that redirects to a disambiguation page at "Term ABC". This type of redirect can be used to indicate deliberate links to the disambiguation page."
Since it's not immediately clear to me that this article is "
the primary topic" for the name "Sahagún" (what about the
Sahagún, Córdoba municipality?), you're probably correct that it needs to be renamed. I don't think that moving it to
Sahagún is a solution, though. Looking around at other moderately sized place names (Check through
Category:Cities by country), I would think that
Sahagún, León would be a more appropriate title.
Wikipedia:PLACE#Disambiguation seems to support this, as well.
The fact that incoming links don't need to be disambiguated isn't an endorsement of the current title, it's an artifact from the high level of maintenance which Wikipedia receives. Additionally, Wikipedia is not itself a
reliable source, so based on both points even if every link without exception pointed to
Sahagún, that wouldn't support a change in and of itself (see
WP:PRIMARY for further amplification). If a
WP:COMMONNAME is available, then that should be established through references so that it can be verified. I also don't see any obvious "historical importance" associated with the town. I'm still left with the opinion that
Sahagún, León would be the more appropriate title, and that
Sahagún (disambiguation) should me moved to
Sahagún. —
V = I * R (
talk)
20:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)reply
"Roughly similar in nature is Las
crónicas anónimas de Sahagún, an account of the fortunes and misfortunes of the most important royal abbey of León-Castilla from the beginning of Urraca's reign until 1117. Although its interest also is something else than the history of the reign as such, Sahagún was so central to the realm and its dynasty that again it supplies invaluable if erratic information." From
Reilly (1982), xi.
216.8.144.218 (
talk)
20:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 29 September 2014
The following discussion is an archived discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a
move review. No further edits should be made to this section.