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Seems to me Sade's musicians should not be separated from the singer herself. There isn't a band called Sade, with a singer named Sally Smith singing lead, the individual's name is Sade and she already has a Wikipedia entry. Her musicians and recording history should be merged into that entry. J. Van Meter 08:57, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
-- 82.173.130.75 ( talk) 13:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Response : Helen Folasade Adu and the rest of the band say to their fans they are a band because the lady alone has hardly ever appeared alone except in the movie Absolute Begginers or on the song she penned for the Darfur crisis, song named Mum.
Most of the instrumental lines/melodies are written by the three musicians in Sade, Stuart Mathewman, Paul Denman and Andrwe Hale, Sade Adu writes all her lyrics (except as quoted bellow) and often co writes the music as well. Sometimes but rarely other people are involved in the song writing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.104.159.63 ( talk) 13:24, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Response : Sade is a band that bears the name of Sade Adu the singer who happens to write all her lyrics exept two "Why Can't We Live Together - 1984" and "Please Send Me Someone To Love - 1994" and cowrites music with other band members. That's it no less no more.
I've removed the link Sweetback because that word currently points at Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song, the seventies movie. It would seem more sensible to me to either disambig the word or have Sweetback point to the band, with the movie being Sweetback (movie) or Sweet Sweetback or whatever, but at the moment it isn't StuartDouglas 21:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone's been adding entries in the (redundant, now removed) discography on the Sade Adu page for an upcoming Sade album in 2007, apparently titled X Lounge. Whoever's making the edits isn't adding any references, and I can't find anything about it on the official Sade news sites. Does anyone know anything about this? Is it anything more than a rumor at this point? Xihr 22:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Response : In spring 2009 a lot of rumours have emerged about a new recording, one major source came from Maxwell who has worked with Sade's Stuart Mathewman on three of his recordings. He gave some hints about a new Sade album but did not revealed a date of release. In the meantime a web site called sade2009.com has been speculating a release date of an album, suposuedly named "Love Supreme" for 24th of november 2009. Sony Music has asked the owner of the sade2009.com web site to deny his own information. Sony music, however, confirmed something was in preparation but no date of release was announced.
In July 2009 Stuart Mathewman appeared on sade.com, saying "we are hard at it, thanks for your patience, Stuart, Paul, Andrew and Sade" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.104.159.63 ( talk) 13:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Her image appears to have been deleted. I have removed the redlink reference in the infobox. Thanks. Refsworldlee (chew-fat) (eds) 00:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
When Epic Records made a point of putting "Pronounced Shar-Day" on her albums for years why does this article claim it's "pronounced 'shah-day'"?? Yes, almost all DJ's and audiophiles pronounce it wrong but this is supposed to be a reliable source isn't it? AaronzDad ( talk) 04:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree, I've attempted to correct this on both articles, but it has been re-edited to the incorrect pronunciation in each case. I will correct them again. SilverTab ( talk) 19:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I understand that the article needed to be "internationalized", but is it really necessary to talk about how many "units" the band have sold worldwide in the introduction? Surely there are more interesting aspects to Sade's music? 84.198.246.199 ( talk) 22:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
It's like that on wikipedia for all artists. I suppose it's notable when an artist or group has sold more than 50 million records worldwide. 75.22.18.97 ( talk) 22:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
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Some confusion here. There are entries for Sade Adu and for Sade the band. Allmusic has one entry for Sade and the genres are listed as follows: R&B, Adult Contemporary, Sophisti-Pop, Adult Contemporary, Quiet Storm. There are some people who think that she is a jazz singer or that the band is a jazz band or both. If I find other sources that conflict with these assertions, what happens then? Whose sources are right?
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If I may bring a third opinion to this discussion... The disambiguation page that brought me here, Sade, refers to this band as "a British smooth jazz band headed by the singer Sade". It's surprising then that an editor is arguing they are not jazz. Let's look at the sources Vmavanti offered:
So I see 3 reliable source citations calling the band jazz, one that has them as jazz for part of their history, one that's ambiguous, and one against. This looks pretty clear: most RS call them jazz.
NeilN points out that the band charted on a Smooth Jazz chart. Vmavanti dismisses this as not impartial, as the information came from her record label, but we are allowed to use WP:PRIMARY sources when they are describing themselves. So, with caution, this further adds to a jazz claim. I found further relevant citations. Billboard has Sade under jazz for its charts. Smooth Radio calls them jazz.
Given this, I'll restore the WikiProject jazz tag. Bondegezou ( talk) 15:12, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
will likely find more sources calling them a soul band than a jazz band.Can you show us these sources? Bondegezou ( talk) 08:00, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Sade isn't jazz, and everyone knows it. The band knows it. I don't understand the refusal to face that fact. I would like to remove it from the Jazz Project.— Vmavanti ( talk) 01:31, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Regarding the rhotacized United States: I'm a native speaker of American English, and always wondered why Sade ought to be pronounced /ʃɑrdeɪ/. How can I be expected to know that, from reading the name? Well, now I gather it's because people at Epic Records put that out. 2001:B011:3009:58DC:9897:8569:563:5956 ( talk) 04:05, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
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Seems to me Sade's musicians should not be separated from the singer herself. There isn't a band called Sade, with a singer named Sally Smith singing lead, the individual's name is Sade and she already has a Wikipedia entry. Her musicians and recording history should be merged into that entry. J. Van Meter 08:57, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
-- 82.173.130.75 ( talk) 13:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Response : Helen Folasade Adu and the rest of the band say to their fans they are a band because the lady alone has hardly ever appeared alone except in the movie Absolute Begginers or on the song she penned for the Darfur crisis, song named Mum.
Most of the instrumental lines/melodies are written by the three musicians in Sade, Stuart Mathewman, Paul Denman and Andrwe Hale, Sade Adu writes all her lyrics (except as quoted bellow) and often co writes the music as well. Sometimes but rarely other people are involved in the song writing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.104.159.63 ( talk) 13:24, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Response : Sade is a band that bears the name of Sade Adu the singer who happens to write all her lyrics exept two "Why Can't We Live Together - 1984" and "Please Send Me Someone To Love - 1994" and cowrites music with other band members. That's it no less no more.
I've removed the link Sweetback because that word currently points at Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song, the seventies movie. It would seem more sensible to me to either disambig the word or have Sweetback point to the band, with the movie being Sweetback (movie) or Sweet Sweetback or whatever, but at the moment it isn't StuartDouglas 21:23, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Someone's been adding entries in the (redundant, now removed) discography on the Sade Adu page for an upcoming Sade album in 2007, apparently titled X Lounge. Whoever's making the edits isn't adding any references, and I can't find anything about it on the official Sade news sites. Does anyone know anything about this? Is it anything more than a rumor at this point? Xihr 22:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Response : In spring 2009 a lot of rumours have emerged about a new recording, one major source came from Maxwell who has worked with Sade's Stuart Mathewman on three of his recordings. He gave some hints about a new Sade album but did not revealed a date of release. In the meantime a web site called sade2009.com has been speculating a release date of an album, suposuedly named "Love Supreme" for 24th of november 2009. Sony Music has asked the owner of the sade2009.com web site to deny his own information. Sony music, however, confirmed something was in preparation but no date of release was announced.
In July 2009 Stuart Mathewman appeared on sade.com, saying "we are hard at it, thanks for your patience, Stuart, Paul, Andrew and Sade" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.104.159.63 ( talk) 13:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Her image appears to have been deleted. I have removed the redlink reference in the infobox. Thanks. Refsworldlee (chew-fat) (eds) 00:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
When Epic Records made a point of putting "Pronounced Shar-Day" on her albums for years why does this article claim it's "pronounced 'shah-day'"?? Yes, almost all DJ's and audiophiles pronounce it wrong but this is supposed to be a reliable source isn't it? AaronzDad ( talk) 04:15, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree, I've attempted to correct this on both articles, but it has been re-edited to the incorrect pronunciation in each case. I will correct them again. SilverTab ( talk) 19:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I understand that the article needed to be "internationalized", but is it really necessary to talk about how many "units" the band have sold worldwide in the introduction? Surely there are more interesting aspects to Sade's music? 84.198.246.199 ( talk) 22:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
It's like that on wikipedia for all artists. I suppose it's notable when an artist or group has sold more than 50 million records worldwide. 75.22.18.97 ( talk) 22:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Album: Diamond Life
1. Your Love is King 3.37
Directed by Jack Semmens
2. Smooth Operator 4:17
Directed by Julian Temple
3. Hang On To Your Love 3:58
Directed by Brian Ward
4. When Am I Going To Make a Living 3:34
Directed by: Unknown —Preceding unsigned comment added by Allentexas2010 ( talk • contribs) 09:49, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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Some confusion here. There are entries for Sade Adu and for Sade the band. Allmusic has one entry for Sade and the genres are listed as follows: R&B, Adult Contemporary, Sophisti-Pop, Adult Contemporary, Quiet Storm. There are some people who think that she is a jazz singer or that the band is a jazz band or both. If I find other sources that conflict with these assertions, what happens then? Whose sources are right?
–
Vmavanti (
talk) 02:08, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
–
Vmavanti (
talk) 18:22, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
If I may bring a third opinion to this discussion... The disambiguation page that brought me here, Sade, refers to this band as "a British smooth jazz band headed by the singer Sade". It's surprising then that an editor is arguing they are not jazz. Let's look at the sources Vmavanti offered:
So I see 3 reliable source citations calling the band jazz, one that has them as jazz for part of their history, one that's ambiguous, and one against. This looks pretty clear: most RS call them jazz.
NeilN points out that the band charted on a Smooth Jazz chart. Vmavanti dismisses this as not impartial, as the information came from her record label, but we are allowed to use WP:PRIMARY sources when they are describing themselves. So, with caution, this further adds to a jazz claim. I found further relevant citations. Billboard has Sade under jazz for its charts. Smooth Radio calls them jazz.
Given this, I'll restore the WikiProject jazz tag. Bondegezou ( talk) 15:12, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
will likely find more sources calling them a soul band than a jazz band.Can you show us these sources? Bondegezou ( talk) 08:00, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Sade isn't jazz, and everyone knows it. The band knows it. I don't understand the refusal to face that fact. I would like to remove it from the Jazz Project.— Vmavanti ( talk) 01:31, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
Regarding the rhotacized United States: I'm a native speaker of American English, and always wondered why Sade ought to be pronounced /ʃɑrdeɪ/. How can I be expected to know that, from reading the name? Well, now I gather it's because people at Epic Records put that out. 2001:B011:3009:58DC:9897:8569:563:5956 ( talk) 04:05, 26 December 2023 (UTC)