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Did you know... that the wreck of the freighter Vernon is one of the deadliest ever to have occurred in
Wisconsin?
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New enough, long enough, well cited - no other policy issues. QPQ done. I tweaked the hook to make it flow better. The hook is good, cited in the article, and verified in the source. On second thought, the source that says it was "one of the deadliest" also says the death toll was 48 while other sources are as low as 36. Any idea if 36 would still put make "one of the deadliest", which I would interpret as in the top three. Can you find another source to back up the "deadliest" claim, like a list of Wisconsin shipwrecks. Otherwise, we should probably go with a different hook.
@
MB: The reason behind the discrepancy in the numbers is that the passenger manifests weren't accurately kept. Multiple numbers are given, anywhere between 36 and 50. Unfortunately, I am unable to find a source to back up the "deadliest" claim. As far as I can work out, there are only a handful of shipwrecks that are deadlier that the Vernon (e.g.
SS Phoenix (1845),
PS Niagara and
SS Milwaukee). I don't know how much that counts, but if there is no source, I would definitely go for the ALT1 hook.
GreatLakesShips (
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21:55, 2 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Although the hook had a source, I think it needs a better source. It was "hookier" that ALT1, which is why I was trying to "salvage" (no pun intended) it. ALT1 doesn't flow very well either. I've modified it into ALT2 which states the same facts, and is stated in the article and source. with ALT2.
MB22:14, 2 January 2021 (UTC)reply
ALT2:... that there was only one survivor in the 1887 sinking of the Vernon(pictured) on
Lake Michigan?
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Did you know... that the wreck of the freighter Vernon is one of the deadliest ever to have occurred in
Wisconsin?
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Ship-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other articles, please
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New enough, long enough, well cited - no other policy issues. QPQ done. I tweaked the hook to make it flow better. The hook is good, cited in the article, and verified in the source. On second thought, the source that says it was "one of the deadliest" also says the death toll was 48 while other sources are as low as 36. Any idea if 36 would still put make "one of the deadliest", which I would interpret as in the top three. Can you find another source to back up the "deadliest" claim, like a list of Wisconsin shipwrecks. Otherwise, we should probably go with a different hook.
@
MB: The reason behind the discrepancy in the numbers is that the passenger manifests weren't accurately kept. Multiple numbers are given, anywhere between 36 and 50. Unfortunately, I am unable to find a source to back up the "deadliest" claim. As far as I can work out, there are only a handful of shipwrecks that are deadlier that the Vernon (e.g.
SS Phoenix (1845),
PS Niagara and
SS Milwaukee). I don't know how much that counts, but if there is no source, I would definitely go for the ALT1 hook.
GreatLakesShips (
talk)
21:55, 2 January 2021 (UTC)reply
Although the hook had a source, I think it needs a better source. It was "hookier" that ALT1, which is why I was trying to "salvage" (no pun intended) it. ALT1 doesn't flow very well either. I've modified it into ALT2 which states the same facts, and is stated in the article and source. with ALT2.
MB22:14, 2 January 2021 (UTC)reply
ALT2:... that there was only one survivor in the 1887 sinking of the Vernon(pictured) on
Lake Michigan?