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Sounds like a good idea to me, there's not much additional information on the Vaterland page. Aep 22:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Now deleted is a trivia item which formerly read:
The source of this entry apparently is the US Navy Historical Center [ [1]], which compared Leviathan's estimated displacement of 58,000 T while in troop transport service with the USN in 1917-1945, with Midway's displacement. That same source lists Midway's displacement at 64,000 T, but that is after modernization. [ [2]] (That site lists Midway's beam at 238', which was the width of the flight deck after modernization.) Jane's lists Midway's displacement in 1945 at 55,000 T, although it grew in successive modernizations. Kablammo 12:09, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Someone is confused that "access dates" are useful information; what is needed is the original date of the article or book, using the standard formats to indicate a reliable source such as a magazine or book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.111.146.179 ( talk) 05:50, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
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? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.183.116 ( talk) 04:53, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
I found some possible PD images from a Turkish magazine Servet-i Funun:
Could this be public domain? WhisperToMe ( talk) 14:51, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
The original article was flat wrong in many comments about ownership. Apparently popular references cited in the earlier viersions did not delve into the actual situation in which the United States Shipping Board and its Emergency Fleet Corporation (EFC) owned alomst all U.S. oceangoing shipping, shipyards, shipping companies (United States Lines was a "trade nmee" of an EFC entity) and even controlled ports. That wartime emergency state remained in place into the 1930s as the postwar glut of hulls and economic conditions caused turmoil in shipping and the U.S. faced strong competition from heavily subsidized shipping, particularly from Britan and Japan. Trade journals of the time are full of the details and books have covered some. The tangle is difficult to cover in a brief discussion of this ship and, due to its prominence, it was particularly involved in controversy. It became a symbol of U.S. prestige as the British and others were building new ships advertised as larger and faster. Congress got involved in attempted sales of the ships (see p. 2827). Even as this and other ships ran up losses privatization attempts were embroiled in controversy and failed. This ship became an example of "white elephant" as those losses mounted yet no sale could be accomplished. Palmeira ( talk) 13:26, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
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Sounds like a good idea to me, there's not much additional information on the Vaterland page. Aep 22:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Now deleted is a trivia item which formerly read:
The source of this entry apparently is the US Navy Historical Center [ [1]], which compared Leviathan's estimated displacement of 58,000 T while in troop transport service with the USN in 1917-1945, with Midway's displacement. That same source lists Midway's displacement at 64,000 T, but that is after modernization. [ [2]] (That site lists Midway's beam at 238', which was the width of the flight deck after modernization.) Jane's lists Midway's displacement in 1945 at 55,000 T, although it grew in successive modernizations. Kablammo 12:09, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Someone is confused that "access dates" are useful information; what is needed is the original date of the article or book, using the standard formats to indicate a reliable source such as a magazine or book. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.111.146.179 ( talk) 05:50, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
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? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.0.183.116 ( talk) 04:53, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
I found some possible PD images from a Turkish magazine Servet-i Funun:
Could this be public domain? WhisperToMe ( talk) 14:51, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
The original article was flat wrong in many comments about ownership. Apparently popular references cited in the earlier viersions did not delve into the actual situation in which the United States Shipping Board and its Emergency Fleet Corporation (EFC) owned alomst all U.S. oceangoing shipping, shipyards, shipping companies (United States Lines was a "trade nmee" of an EFC entity) and even controlled ports. That wartime emergency state remained in place into the 1930s as the postwar glut of hulls and economic conditions caused turmoil in shipping and the U.S. faced strong competition from heavily subsidized shipping, particularly from Britan and Japan. Trade journals of the time are full of the details and books have covered some. The tangle is difficult to cover in a brief discussion of this ship and, due to its prominence, it was particularly involved in controversy. It became a symbol of U.S. prestige as the British and others were building new ships advertised as larger and faster. Congress got involved in attempted sales of the ships (see p. 2827). Even as this and other ships ran up losses privatization attempts were embroiled in controversy and failed. This ship became an example of "white elephant" as those losses mounted yet no sale could be accomplished. Palmeira ( talk) 13:26, 19 October 2021 (UTC)