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Why isn't it mentioned that the "After a few shots were fired, the Dresden ran up a white flag " were illegal, as the ship was in a Chilean harbour which was neutral? So the shots were done ignoring the neutral status of the place where the ship was.
As my Uncle always told me, the Ship was allready officialy turned over to Chile. It was no official Harbour, but clearly in Chilenian Territory. The Engine was worne out and ther was no Cole left. My Grandfather was one the eight German Man killed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.128.52.153 ( talk • contribs)
It is very clear that the behavior of the british forces were complettly illeagal. It has nothing to do with "fairplay" - more it was the "my country first" attitude. This should be mentioned on the british wikipedia page as it is mentioned on the german wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.123.70.181 ( talk) 14:00, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
The ship was anchored within the territorial waters of Chile or the chilean island "Más a Tierra", in front of the beach, flying a white flag and definitely no ensign. " ... Im Ersten Weltkrieg stellte sich der deutsche Kreuzer SMS Dresden am 14. März 1915 nach Verfolgung durch die britischen Kreuzer Kent, Glasgow und Orama in der Cumberlandbucht der Insel Más a Tierra unter chilenische Hoheit. Die englischen Schiffe eröffneten das Feuer und die Dresden geriet in Brand. ..." The Dresden was shot without negotiations or contact, as soon as the british ships were at firing range. There was no contact of any of the german officers with their british adversaries, this is simply not true but most probably propaganda. When the SMS "Dresden" began to burn, the Captain tried to scuttle the ship. The crew had already evacuated to the island before. English rumours said it was a retaliation from Churchill, ordering to sink the SMS "Dresden" at any cost and " ... kill the crew or take prisoners, whatever you see fit", as he already had ordered to do with shipwrecked german soldiers from U-boats. The papers are in the british archives (only to be opened in 2018) and the german Bundearchiv. The surviving, then first officer of the SMS "Dresden" was the later SD-chief Wilhelm Canaris. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.238.15.14 ( talk) 13:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
The info. box says ship had two propellers. German Wiki says four (Die "Dresden" verfügte über vier Propeller....). Sca ( talk) 14:31, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
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Nice article, I just have the following comments to make:
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All in all, pretty minor stuff really. I'll check back in a few days for your response. Cheers. Zawed ( talk) 23:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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Why isn't it mentioned that the "After a few shots were fired, the Dresden ran up a white flag " were illegal, as the ship was in a Chilean harbour which was neutral? So the shots were done ignoring the neutral status of the place where the ship was.
As my Uncle always told me, the Ship was allready officialy turned over to Chile. It was no official Harbour, but clearly in Chilenian Territory. The Engine was worne out and ther was no Cole left. My Grandfather was one the eight German Man killed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.128.52.153 ( talk • contribs)
It is very clear that the behavior of the british forces were complettly illeagal. It has nothing to do with "fairplay" - more it was the "my country first" attitude. This should be mentioned on the british wikipedia page as it is mentioned on the german wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.123.70.181 ( talk) 14:00, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
The ship was anchored within the territorial waters of Chile or the chilean island "Más a Tierra", in front of the beach, flying a white flag and definitely no ensign. " ... Im Ersten Weltkrieg stellte sich der deutsche Kreuzer SMS Dresden am 14. März 1915 nach Verfolgung durch die britischen Kreuzer Kent, Glasgow und Orama in der Cumberlandbucht der Insel Más a Tierra unter chilenische Hoheit. Die englischen Schiffe eröffneten das Feuer und die Dresden geriet in Brand. ..." The Dresden was shot without negotiations or contact, as soon as the british ships were at firing range. There was no contact of any of the german officers with their british adversaries, this is simply not true but most probably propaganda. When the SMS "Dresden" began to burn, the Captain tried to scuttle the ship. The crew had already evacuated to the island before. English rumours said it was a retaliation from Churchill, ordering to sink the SMS "Dresden" at any cost and " ... kill the crew or take prisoners, whatever you see fit", as he already had ordered to do with shipwrecked german soldiers from U-boats. The papers are in the british archives (only to be opened in 2018) and the german Bundearchiv. The surviving, then first officer of the SMS "Dresden" was the later SD-chief Wilhelm Canaris. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.238.15.14 ( talk) 13:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
The info. box says ship had two propellers. German Wiki says four (Die "Dresden" verfügte über vier Propeller....). Sca ( talk) 14:31, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Zawed ( talk · contribs) 23:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Nice article, I just have the following comments to make:
Infobox
Service history
World War I
Battle of Coronel
Battle of the Falkland Islands
Aftermath
General
All in all, pretty minor stuff really. I'll check back in a few days for your response. Cheers. Zawed ( talk) 23:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
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Here, here, here, here, here, and here, sinking. Parsecboy ( talk) 13:06, 8 November 2019 (UTC)