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The name needs to be changed, as it is a non-notable neologism, though to what? NSA Blackmail? NSA Pornography Blackmail? Is there an actual name for this program that was covered in secret documents, similar to PRISM? The whole basis that this article was undeleted is because that the content is notable, but not the name. If there is no name change, then there is no justification to keep the article, as the sole basis of undeletion is that the name would be changed to more suitable suite the topic.
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is there a way to find the archived discussions? I don't remember that being the cause of undeletion explicitly (not accusing you!!)/ The issue is that while changing the name is preferable there doesn't seem to be many alternatives. I also still think that that neologism is notable due to who coined it which also suggests to me that they aren't the only person who has used it. The issue seemed to be that the article was apparently about the term itself- perhaps simply ensuring the tone is informatory as to the actual programs and abuses would be the appropriate course of action? This is all assuming that the consensus wasn't explicitly 'keep, change name' of course. I just want to be sure because people went ahead and deleted the article before consensus and such.
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See the deletion review located here;
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Deletion_review#18_May_2014 that was the primary theme. The name needs to be changed. Given that it's still on everybody's watchlist, I'm trying to start a discussion on that.
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The name needs to be changed, as it is a non-notable neologism, though to what? NSA Blackmail? NSA Pornography Blackmail? Is there an actual name for this program that was covered in secret documents, similar to PRISM? The whole basis that this article was undeleted is because that the content is notable, but not the name. If there is no name change, then there is no justification to keep the article, as the sole basis of undeletion is that the name would be changed to more suitable suite the topic.
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talk) 02:12, 27 May 2014 (UTC)reply
is there a way to find the archived discussions? I don't remember that being the cause of undeletion explicitly (not accusing you!!)/ The issue is that while changing the name is preferable there doesn't seem to be many alternatives. I also still think that that neologism is notable due to who coined it which also suggests to me that they aren't the only person who has used it. The issue seemed to be that the article was apparently about the term itself- perhaps simply ensuring the tone is informatory as to the actual programs and abuses would be the appropriate course of action? This is all assuming that the consensus wasn't explicitly 'keep, change name' of course. I just want to be sure because people went ahead and deleted the article before consensus and such.
Ogma the Scholar (
talk) 23:55, 29 May 2014 (UTC)reply
See the deletion review located here;
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Deletion_review#18_May_2014 that was the primary theme. The name needs to be changed. Given that it's still on everybody's watchlist, I'm trying to start a discussion on that.
Tutelary (
talk) 00:01, 30 May 2014 (UTC)reply