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Postal address is Rutherglen, Glasgow - SoM 23:42, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
This page is in desperate need of a large section on the history of Rutherglen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.197.90 ( talk) 20:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
If Rutherglen is part of Glasgow, why do you see big "Welcome to Glasgow" signs as you leave Rutherglen on King's Park Avenue, Burnhill Street and Glasgow Road? AlistairMcMillan 08:41, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
SinceRutherglen just redirects to this page, then perhaps this page should be at Rutherglen. AlistairMcMillan 10:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Calgacus, let's discuss this. (I am undoing your revert for now, as you also, unintentionally I am sure, removed additional information about the MP and MSP I had put into the info box).
My points are as follows - that the name Rutherglen is derived from Gaelic is good information, and should be prominently included. We are better however, using 'Gaelic' or 'Scots Gaelic' as Gd is not an abreviation familliar to English speakers. (We would not use Dt. for German.)
However, putting into the info box the Gaelic as an alternative name for Rutherglen is wholey misleading. No-one calls Rutherglen by that name, Rutherglen has no significant Gaelic-speaking population. No signs in Rutherglen are in Gaelic. Incidently, I know Rutherglen well and have never come across this name in any documentation. Whatever may have been the history, it is simply not the name of this town.
I'm not trying to exclude the Gaelic, as I am sure it is of interest to some. But it is not significant information, and we don't to create the false impression that Rutherglen is a dual language town. Thanks. -- Doc ask? 11:56, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I would like to voice my support for including the Gaelic name. It is regretable that info about the MP and MSP was accidentally lost; and the Gd versus Gaelic or Scottish Gaelic label I have no strong opinion about (Gaelic seems a good option though). This is a very important topic, and I am just wondering if either of you see value in starting a wider discussion on this at WP:SCOWNB , because if we do not then I fear that we will repeat this discussion ad infinitum at many, many Talk pages. Eg. the Shetland question is very interesting, being about the only part of Scotland with zero history of Gaelic (I think).-- Mais oui! 13:29, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes the Gaelic name should be included. I think 'Gaelic' should be used rather than 'GD' or 'Scots Gaelic'. An Siarach
For me, the fact that the goverment in Scotland uses the gaelic term should be enough to include it. As Gaelic is now regarded as an official language, I see no reason to exclude it from the infobox. Panjabi is not an official language (though it is used in some government publications directed at Panjabi speakers). Irish geography articles include Irish Gaelic names, even though the language is not widely spoken in day-to-day life by most of the population. It's being an official language that counts. Lurker oi! 16:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I support it without a doubt. Many Glasgow names are of Gaelic origin, and also, there are various placenames in recently Gaelic speaking areas which have a Lallans name, and that should be included on them. --
MacRusgail
15:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
A couple of suggested revisions;
Surely there should be a section on Rutherglen's History, after all there is plenty of it. The Rutherglen Library has a copy of "Shearer's" "Rutherglen Lore" a wonderful source of it's history, including the fact that Rutherglen was once very nearly an island. I am saying nothing about it until you all read the book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asste ( talk • contribs) 19:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Link to White's chemicals takes us to a gentlemans club in London. Are the two related? The owner of White's, Lord Overtoun, gifted the land for Overtoun Park, should this be mentioned? Is the bandstand not quite important?
Should probably mention that Clyde FC played at Shawfield Stadium and it is still an important dog track. Need somebody to write a page on Shawfield, it's linked to on the Clyde FC page.
There is no mention about the River Clyde. It's hidden behind the wasteland but still an important part of the town. Can anybody dig anything up about shipbuilding? TSSY Esperance is the worlds oldest surviving powered yacht and still sails about Lake Windemere. It was built by Thomas B Seath in Rutherglen. I guess the boat building hit the skids when the weir was built at Glasgow Green.
How about a list of famous folk from Rutherglen?
The Fernhill page refers to it as part of Ruggie, should 'suburbs' of Rutherglen, past or present, also be listed?
How about a photo of the town hall?
And finally, a list of all the great tourist attractions like...., em. The taxi rank?
Fuzzy 23:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
This page would benefit from showing a photo of the mercat cross.
Some silly process had altered the infobox for this article to a UK one which didn't work for the Scots and Gaelic. Rather then fight this, I've imply subst the old one back onto this page. I think it works better for this article. If anyone disagrees then, then let me know and give me some reasons and we can discuss this. The UK one simply left the Scots and Glc without any explanation of what they meant.-- Docg 13:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Custom infobox converted to UK place infobox as per guidelines and consensus at WP:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements. Scots and Gaelic names are still both tagged as such. Dallan72 ( talk) 07:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Some idiot put the schools names and addresses as if they were writing it in a letter! USE BULLET POINTS!!!!! How annoying is it when you see that picture and the schools names are ALL jumbled!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! LOTRrules ( talk) 01:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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Postal address is Rutherglen, Glasgow - SoM 23:42, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
This page is in desperate need of a large section on the history of Rutherglen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.197.90 ( talk) 20:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
If Rutherglen is part of Glasgow, why do you see big "Welcome to Glasgow" signs as you leave Rutherglen on King's Park Avenue, Burnhill Street and Glasgow Road? AlistairMcMillan 08:41, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
SinceRutherglen just redirects to this page, then perhaps this page should be at Rutherglen. AlistairMcMillan 10:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Calgacus, let's discuss this. (I am undoing your revert for now, as you also, unintentionally I am sure, removed additional information about the MP and MSP I had put into the info box).
My points are as follows - that the name Rutherglen is derived from Gaelic is good information, and should be prominently included. We are better however, using 'Gaelic' or 'Scots Gaelic' as Gd is not an abreviation familliar to English speakers. (We would not use Dt. for German.)
However, putting into the info box the Gaelic as an alternative name for Rutherglen is wholey misleading. No-one calls Rutherglen by that name, Rutherglen has no significant Gaelic-speaking population. No signs in Rutherglen are in Gaelic. Incidently, I know Rutherglen well and have never come across this name in any documentation. Whatever may have been the history, it is simply not the name of this town.
I'm not trying to exclude the Gaelic, as I am sure it is of interest to some. But it is not significant information, and we don't to create the false impression that Rutherglen is a dual language town. Thanks. -- Doc ask? 11:56, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I would like to voice my support for including the Gaelic name. It is regretable that info about the MP and MSP was accidentally lost; and the Gd versus Gaelic or Scottish Gaelic label I have no strong opinion about (Gaelic seems a good option though). This is a very important topic, and I am just wondering if either of you see value in starting a wider discussion on this at WP:SCOWNB , because if we do not then I fear that we will repeat this discussion ad infinitum at many, many Talk pages. Eg. the Shetland question is very interesting, being about the only part of Scotland with zero history of Gaelic (I think).-- Mais oui! 13:29, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes the Gaelic name should be included. I think 'Gaelic' should be used rather than 'GD' or 'Scots Gaelic'. An Siarach
For me, the fact that the goverment in Scotland uses the gaelic term should be enough to include it. As Gaelic is now regarded as an official language, I see no reason to exclude it from the infobox. Panjabi is not an official language (though it is used in some government publications directed at Panjabi speakers). Irish geography articles include Irish Gaelic names, even though the language is not widely spoken in day-to-day life by most of the population. It's being an official language that counts. Lurker oi! 16:34, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I support it without a doubt. Many Glasgow names are of Gaelic origin, and also, there are various placenames in recently Gaelic speaking areas which have a Lallans name, and that should be included on them. --
MacRusgail
15:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
A couple of suggested revisions;
Surely there should be a section on Rutherglen's History, after all there is plenty of it. The Rutherglen Library has a copy of "Shearer's" "Rutherglen Lore" a wonderful source of it's history, including the fact that Rutherglen was once very nearly an island. I am saying nothing about it until you all read the book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asste ( talk • contribs) 19:51, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Link to White's chemicals takes us to a gentlemans club in London. Are the two related? The owner of White's, Lord Overtoun, gifted the land for Overtoun Park, should this be mentioned? Is the bandstand not quite important?
Should probably mention that Clyde FC played at Shawfield Stadium and it is still an important dog track. Need somebody to write a page on Shawfield, it's linked to on the Clyde FC page.
There is no mention about the River Clyde. It's hidden behind the wasteland but still an important part of the town. Can anybody dig anything up about shipbuilding? TSSY Esperance is the worlds oldest surviving powered yacht and still sails about Lake Windemere. It was built by Thomas B Seath in Rutherglen. I guess the boat building hit the skids when the weir was built at Glasgow Green.
How about a list of famous folk from Rutherglen?
The Fernhill page refers to it as part of Ruggie, should 'suburbs' of Rutherglen, past or present, also be listed?
How about a photo of the town hall?
And finally, a list of all the great tourist attractions like...., em. The taxi rank?
Fuzzy 23:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
This page would benefit from showing a photo of the mercat cross.
Some silly process had altered the infobox for this article to a UK one which didn't work for the Scots and Gaelic. Rather then fight this, I've imply subst the old one back onto this page. I think it works better for this article. If anyone disagrees then, then let me know and give me some reasons and we can discuss this. The UK one simply left the Scots and Glc without any explanation of what they meant.-- Docg 13:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Custom infobox converted to UK place infobox as per guidelines and consensus at WP:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements. Scots and Gaelic names are still both tagged as such. Dallan72 ( talk) 07:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Some idiot put the schools names and addresses as if they were writing it in a letter! USE BULLET POINTS!!!!! How annoying is it when you see that picture and the schools names are ALL jumbled!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! LOTRrules ( talk) 01:10, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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There are too many photos in this article, and it suffers massively from sandwiching. Many photos add no encyclopaedic knowledge, remember images are here to enhance the article and provide encyclopaedic information, not just as decoration. Too many images of non-notable roads, buildings etc not even mentioned in the article and of which having the image doesn't enhance anything. Canterbury Tail talk 17:10, 27 October 2022 (UTC)