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My understanding is that Russia has not annexed a region called "Mykolaiv" (or Nikolaev), but has instead streamlined the tiny bit of Mykolaiv under its control into the new " Kherson Oblast (Russia)". With that being said, it's not even entirely clear how much territory of Mykolaiv is still under Russian control. I've seen reports that certain parts of Russian-occupied Mykolaiv have been liberated by Ukrainian forces, although these reports are unconfirmed. At this point, Russia does not seem to control much of value in Mykolaiv, although I think Russia has technically annexed some tiny bits of the oblast. Whether Russia would attempt to re-occupy these bits after Ukrainian liberation is another matter entirely. i.e. Russia could theoretically continue to claim them after losing control of them. Jargo Nautilus ( talk) 02:44, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Ping: @ Cryw 9 - I already created this talk section yesterday to discuss the concept of Mykolaiv getting absorbed into Kherson. The main issue I'm seeing here is that the sourcing is low-quality. Even if it is Russian-state media, it can't be trusted. We need something that is definitive, preferably from a reliable third party (e.g. BBC News). Jargo Nautilus ( talk) 15:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
...Russia's TASS news agency reported on Wednesday.--> This statement is found in the Reuters article. They are probably referring to an older article that was published by TASS. Jargo Nautilus ( talk) 16:20, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
There's a good reason that I'm skeptical of the Russian annexation of parts of Mykolaiv Oblast, which I mentioned in the section above. All of the annexations in this conflict have occurred in the midst of ongoing warfare. Russia did not fully control any of the oblasts at the time that it annexed them. Originally, Russia was planning to annex the entirety of Kharkiv Oblast and Mykolaiv Oblast, but these plans failed after Kharkiv Oblast was almost completely retaken by Ukraine; meanwhile, Russia never managed to expand its control of Mykolaiv Oblast (after the early stages of the war), with only a small portion remaining under Russian control, connected to Kherson Oblast.
In the annexation that occurred on 30 September 2022, Russia declared that it had annexed four oblasts of Ukraine, namely Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts. All of these oblasts have at least 50% of the oblast under Russian control, so they are more "viable", so to speak. However, Mykolaiv Oblast has less than 10% under Russian control, and Kharkiv Oblast has less than 5% under Russian control. Russia never announced that it had annexed these oblasts, although some reports suggest that Russia has annexed the areas of Mykolaiv Oblast under its control (no news about Kharkiv Oblast).
I believe that it is WP:RECENTISM and WP:CRYSTAL to suggest that Russia has annexed parts of Mykolaiv Oblast. The parts under Russian control are only relatively small, and they are also located along the front line of the war. This area could easily pass back and forth between Russian and Ukrainian control within a matter of weeks, and it seems that Ukraine is currently on the offensive to retake these territories. Could it really be said that Russia has annexed this area if it falls under Ukrainian control within the next few weeks, and especially considering that Russia has no major ambitions in Mykolaiv Oblast anymore? Ultimately, Russia's base of operations in the region is Kherson Oblast, and the small parts of Mykolaiv Oblast are being incorporated into Kherson Oblast out of convenience rather than for a profound reason. If Russia loses this area to Ukraine, it is likely that Russia's next move will be to consolidate the borders of Kherson Oblast, rather than to try and retake the relatively useless parts of Mykolaiv Oblast.
Generally speaking, I believe that the Snihurivka Raion Snihurivka's environs* should be regarded as a "contested area", rather than as a definitively annexed area, because its situation is ephemeral, temporary, and highly unstable (even more so than the situations in the Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts). With that being said, the portion of the Kinburn Peninsula that belongs to Mykolaiv Oblast will probably remain under Russian control until the city of Kherson is liberated, due to the obvious geographic reality of the area; the Kinburn Peninsula is connected to Kherson Oblast by land and separated from the rest of Mykolaiv Oblast by water, so its centre of gravity is naturally in Kherson Oblast, and especially in Kherson City.
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*It is also important to point out that Ukraine actually abolished the Snihurivka Raion in 2020. Effectively, the Snihurivka Raion no longer exists, according to Ukraine's definition of its own administrative subdivisions. So, the fact that we are calling this area "Snihurivka Raion" is an indication of the ephemerality of the situation. The area is ill-defined, and using a definition that was abolished by Ukraine 2 years ago is not convincing. Russia has clearly revived this definition out of convenience rather than for a profound reason. Jargo Nautilus ( talk) 04:38, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
I have renamed "Snihurivka Raion" to "Snihurivka's environs" in the article " List of territorial disputes". This refers to both the city of Snihurivka itself and the areas immediately surrounding the city. Jargo Nautilus ( talk) 08:55, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
According to a bbc news article: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-63576212?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=636d265852314367adffcf26%26Mykolaiv%20region%20completely%20liberated%20-%20Ukrainian%20commander%262022-11-10T17%3A26%3A22.945Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:4d7942fa-c4df-4b9e-abe5-4afaf27531ae&pinned_post_asset_id=636d265852314367adffcf26&pinned_post_type=share looks like that the entire of mykolaiv oblast is free now Lucasoliveira653 ( talk) 18:34, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
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My understanding is that Russia has not annexed a region called "Mykolaiv" (or Nikolaev), but has instead streamlined the tiny bit of Mykolaiv under its control into the new " Kherson Oblast (Russia)". With that being said, it's not even entirely clear how much territory of Mykolaiv is still under Russian control. I've seen reports that certain parts of Russian-occupied Mykolaiv have been liberated by Ukrainian forces, although these reports are unconfirmed. At this point, Russia does not seem to control much of value in Mykolaiv, although I think Russia has technically annexed some tiny bits of the oblast. Whether Russia would attempt to re-occupy these bits after Ukrainian liberation is another matter entirely. i.e. Russia could theoretically continue to claim them after losing control of them. Jargo Nautilus ( talk) 02:44, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Ping: @ Cryw 9 - I already created this talk section yesterday to discuss the concept of Mykolaiv getting absorbed into Kherson. The main issue I'm seeing here is that the sourcing is low-quality. Even if it is Russian-state media, it can't be trusted. We need something that is definitive, preferably from a reliable third party (e.g. BBC News). Jargo Nautilus ( talk) 15:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
...Russia's TASS news agency reported on Wednesday.--> This statement is found in the Reuters article. They are probably referring to an older article that was published by TASS. Jargo Nautilus ( talk) 16:20, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
There's a good reason that I'm skeptical of the Russian annexation of parts of Mykolaiv Oblast, which I mentioned in the section above. All of the annexations in this conflict have occurred in the midst of ongoing warfare. Russia did not fully control any of the oblasts at the time that it annexed them. Originally, Russia was planning to annex the entirety of Kharkiv Oblast and Mykolaiv Oblast, but these plans failed after Kharkiv Oblast was almost completely retaken by Ukraine; meanwhile, Russia never managed to expand its control of Mykolaiv Oblast (after the early stages of the war), with only a small portion remaining under Russian control, connected to Kherson Oblast.
In the annexation that occurred on 30 September 2022, Russia declared that it had annexed four oblasts of Ukraine, namely Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts. All of these oblasts have at least 50% of the oblast under Russian control, so they are more "viable", so to speak. However, Mykolaiv Oblast has less than 10% under Russian control, and Kharkiv Oblast has less than 5% under Russian control. Russia never announced that it had annexed these oblasts, although some reports suggest that Russia has annexed the areas of Mykolaiv Oblast under its control (no news about Kharkiv Oblast).
I believe that it is WP:RECENTISM and WP:CRYSTAL to suggest that Russia has annexed parts of Mykolaiv Oblast. The parts under Russian control are only relatively small, and they are also located along the front line of the war. This area could easily pass back and forth between Russian and Ukrainian control within a matter of weeks, and it seems that Ukraine is currently on the offensive to retake these territories. Could it really be said that Russia has annexed this area if it falls under Ukrainian control within the next few weeks, and especially considering that Russia has no major ambitions in Mykolaiv Oblast anymore? Ultimately, Russia's base of operations in the region is Kherson Oblast, and the small parts of Mykolaiv Oblast are being incorporated into Kherson Oblast out of convenience rather than for a profound reason. If Russia loses this area to Ukraine, it is likely that Russia's next move will be to consolidate the borders of Kherson Oblast, rather than to try and retake the relatively useless parts of Mykolaiv Oblast.
Generally speaking, I believe that the Snihurivka Raion Snihurivka's environs* should be regarded as a "contested area", rather than as a definitively annexed area, because its situation is ephemeral, temporary, and highly unstable (even more so than the situations in the Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts). With that being said, the portion of the Kinburn Peninsula that belongs to Mykolaiv Oblast will probably remain under Russian control until the city of Kherson is liberated, due to the obvious geographic reality of the area; the Kinburn Peninsula is connected to Kherson Oblast by land and separated from the rest of Mykolaiv Oblast by water, so its centre of gravity is naturally in Kherson Oblast, and especially in Kherson City.
Jargo Nautilus (
talk) 04:24, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
*It is also important to point out that Ukraine actually abolished the Snihurivka Raion in 2020. Effectively, the Snihurivka Raion no longer exists, according to Ukraine's definition of its own administrative subdivisions. So, the fact that we are calling this area "Snihurivka Raion" is an indication of the ephemerality of the situation. The area is ill-defined, and using a definition that was abolished by Ukraine 2 years ago is not convincing. Russia has clearly revived this definition out of convenience rather than for a profound reason. Jargo Nautilus ( talk) 04:38, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
I have renamed "Snihurivka Raion" to "Snihurivka's environs" in the article " List of territorial disputes". This refers to both the city of Snihurivka itself and the areas immediately surrounding the city. Jargo Nautilus ( talk) 08:55, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
According to a bbc news article: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-63576212?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=636d265852314367adffcf26%26Mykolaiv%20region%20completely%20liberated%20-%20Ukrainian%20commander%262022-11-10T17%3A26%3A22.945Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:4d7942fa-c4df-4b9e-abe5-4afaf27531ae&pinned_post_asset_id=636d265852314367adffcf26&pinned_post_type=share looks like that the entire of mykolaiv oblast is free now Lucasoliveira653 ( talk) 18:34, 10 November 2022 (UTC)