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create " Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 Brexit referendum" or a Timeline section within this article? X1\ ( talk) 23:09, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Pure speculation, fantasy, conspiracy theory etc. Page should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sem999 ( talk • contribs) 11:20, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
After watching Brexit: The Uncivil War, the role of billionaire Robert Mercer ("Mercer played a key role in the Brexit campaign by donating data analytics services to Nigel Farage"). [1] and Andrew Breitbart. This is not to dilute the Russian stuff, it would be a completely additional section.
The big problem with all this stuff is that it was covert and the evidence is circumstantial. I know there are people who believe that "Europe" interfered too so we will be critically dependent on reliable sources (aka "the mainstream media"). If it is in the Daily Telegraph, then it would have to be reported equally.
Am I opening a can of worms here? Comments? -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 23:35, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
The article is about Russian interference. Most of the timeline should be deleted as it has nothing to do with the article subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.55.49 ( talk) 06:02, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
References
Undid 3 edits by thesensetalker 79.79.231.203 ( talk) 20:29, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
@ RaviC: revert the title of this article until it is discussed properly. See Wikipedia talk:Requested moves#Can an article title be changed without discussion? with comments by Crouch, Swale and Levivich. X1\ ( talk) 20:59, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Ok, I've done that. -- RaviC ( talk) 21:41, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the article to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 06:19, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Russian interference in the 2016 Brexit referendum → Alleged Russian interference in the 2016 Brexit referendum – per WP:NPOV - nothing has been proven in a court of law; until such actions are proven, the article title should not suggest that they are an incontrovertible fact. RaviC ( talk) 21:41, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
The Russian government has sought to influence democracy in the United Kingdom through disinformation, cyber hacking, and corruption. While a complete picture of the scope and nature of Kremlin interference in the UK's June 2016 referendum is still emerging... etc.It's explicit. -- The Vintage Feminist ( talk) 03:13, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
X1\ ( talk) 01:31, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
See this. X1\ ( talk) 21:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Many of the primary web sites advocating for Brexit seem have vanished. This is not original research on my part but I though it may be ad rem once we can see the Russian interference report.
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• Here’s the website of Britain’s Future, who spent £434,721 on Facebook ads in 2019 to promote a hard Brexit - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277962443017211912?s=20 • Here’s We Are The 52%, who spent £52,273 on the same issue - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277962625150644227?s=20 • Save Brexit, who spent £43,642 is now just a cookie notice and a redirect to a Kanto URL - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277963330770989056?s=20
Then we move onto the 2019 General Election • City Action spent £40,534 on ‘pro-business' ads during the 2019 election campaign. No posts since December 11th. They’re now a GoDaddy holding page and a dead Gmail address - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277965371924819974?s=20 • ‘Capitalist Worker’ spent £37,790 between being set up on November 4th 2019 and December 12th. A couple of cursory posts since, but it doesn’t really exist any more. They even managed to get most of their ads taken down - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277966650734596096?s=20 • Parents’ Choice spent £43,835 attacking Labour’s education policies, then disappeared. It’s now just a privacy notice. (Richard Tracey, the named data controller is a former Conservative MP and was formerly then-• London-Mayor Boris Johnson’s “Ambassador for the River”) - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277968423599759365?s=20 • The Campaign Against Corbynism keeps on rolling, after spending £50k on ads during the election campaign (but nothing before and less than £1k since). Still no idea who they are - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277964366441111560?s=20 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.181.108 ( talk) 18:06, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
This is fake news. Are you saying Boris is lying? * Boris Johnson: There is 'no evidence of any Russian interference' - 20 Nov 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaribDigita ( talk • contribs) 22:20, June 10, 2021 (UTC)
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create " Timeline of Russian interference in the 2016 Brexit referendum" or a Timeline section within this article? X1\ ( talk) 23:09, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Pure speculation, fantasy, conspiracy theory etc. Page should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sem999 ( talk • contribs) 11:20, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
After watching Brexit: The Uncivil War, the role of billionaire Robert Mercer ("Mercer played a key role in the Brexit campaign by donating data analytics services to Nigel Farage"). [1] and Andrew Breitbart. This is not to dilute the Russian stuff, it would be a completely additional section.
The big problem with all this stuff is that it was covert and the evidence is circumstantial. I know there are people who believe that "Europe" interfered too so we will be critically dependent on reliable sources (aka "the mainstream media"). If it is in the Daily Telegraph, then it would have to be reported equally.
Am I opening a can of worms here? Comments? -- John Maynard Friedman ( talk) 23:35, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
The article is about Russian interference. Most of the timeline should be deleted as it has nothing to do with the article subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.174.55.49 ( talk) 06:02, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
References
Undid 3 edits by thesensetalker 79.79.231.203 ( talk) 20:29, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
@ RaviC: revert the title of this article until it is discussed properly. See Wikipedia talk:Requested moves#Can an article title be changed without discussion? with comments by Crouch, Swale and Levivich. X1\ ( talk) 20:59, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Ok, I've done that. -- RaviC ( talk) 21:41, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: consensus not to move the article to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 06:19, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Russian interference in the 2016 Brexit referendum → Alleged Russian interference in the 2016 Brexit referendum – per WP:NPOV - nothing has been proven in a court of law; until such actions are proven, the article title should not suggest that they are an incontrovertible fact. RaviC ( talk) 21:41, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
The Russian government has sought to influence democracy in the United Kingdom through disinformation, cyber hacking, and corruption. While a complete picture of the scope and nature of Kremlin interference in the UK's June 2016 referendum is still emerging... etc.It's explicit. -- The Vintage Feminist ( talk) 03:13, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
X1\ ( talk) 01:31, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
See this. X1\ ( talk) 21:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Many of the primary web sites advocating for Brexit seem have vanished. This is not original research on my part but I though it may be ad rem once we can see the Russian interference report.
--
• Here’s the website of Britain’s Future, who spent £434,721 on Facebook ads in 2019 to promote a hard Brexit - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277962443017211912?s=20 • Here’s We Are The 52%, who spent £52,273 on the same issue - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277962625150644227?s=20 • Save Brexit, who spent £43,642 is now just a cookie notice and a redirect to a Kanto URL - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277963330770989056?s=20
Then we move onto the 2019 General Election • City Action spent £40,534 on ‘pro-business' ads during the 2019 election campaign. No posts since December 11th. They’re now a GoDaddy holding page and a dead Gmail address - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277965371924819974?s=20 • ‘Capitalist Worker’ spent £37,790 between being set up on November 4th 2019 and December 12th. A couple of cursory posts since, but it doesn’t really exist any more. They even managed to get most of their ads taken down - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277966650734596096?s=20 • Parents’ Choice spent £43,835 attacking Labour’s education policies, then disappeared. It’s now just a privacy notice. (Richard Tracey, the named data controller is a former Conservative MP and was formerly then-• London-Mayor Boris Johnson’s “Ambassador for the River”) - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277968423599759365?s=20 • The Campaign Against Corbynism keeps on rolling, after spending £50k on ads during the election campaign (but nothing before and less than £1k since). Still no idea who they are - https://twitter.com/WhoTargetsMe/status/1277964366441111560?s=20 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.181.108 ( talk) 18:06, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
This is fake news. Are you saying Boris is lying? * Boris Johnson: There is 'no evidence of any Russian interference' - 20 Nov 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaribDigita ( talk • contribs) 22:20, June 10, 2021 (UTC)