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The result of the move request was: Moot. After the initial RM was posted, the scope of the article has expanded through ordinary editing, and it now covers multiple laws rather than one law. The RM initiator has boldly moved the article from "Russia fake news law" to the plural form, "Russian fake news laws", to reflect the expanded scope. Typically, we'd frown on editors posting an RM and then boldly moving the article while the RM is still going, but in this case, it seems appropriate and efficient, whether as WP:IAR or just natural WP:BOLD editing. In any event, the expansion of the scope of the article, and the new, plural, title, renders this original RM moot. Anyone should feel free to revert this close without discussing with me first if they disagree. ( non-admin closure) Levivich 17:12, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Russia fake news law →
Federal Law No. 32-FZ of 4 March 2022 – There's more Russian laws regarding fake news. As the article itself indicates, this is only an amendment.
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Russian Federal Laws of 4 March 2022 №31-FZ and №32-FZ require separate article because these laws have the subject of legal regulation different from the the subject of legal regulation of the Federal Law of 18 March 2019 №31-FZ allowing Roskomnadzor to block the access to any online media in case of revealing a "fake news". And there is one more "fake news" law - the Federal Law of 1 April 2020 №100-FZ prohibiting fake information about COVID-19. We should avoid confusion. K8M8S8 ( talk) 21:02, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
So ...
Something like this. K8M8S8 ( talk) 21:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Russian Wikipedia containes separate articles for different "fake news" laws. For example, this Пакет федеральных законов о недостоверных новостях is devoted to 2019 Fake News Law, and this Федеральный закон № 32-ФЗ 2022 года is devoted to 2022 Laws Establishing War Censorship and Prohibiting Anti-War Statements and Calls for Sanctions. So, after splitting, we should fix interwiki links. K8M8S8 ( talk) 13:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Let me sum up (preliminary): now we have well-done broad-concept article devoted to group of Russian laws. In addition to this article, we may create separate articles "Russian 2019 Fake News Law" interwiki-linked to Пакет федеральных законов о недостоверных новостях and "Russian 2022 Laws Establishing War Censorship and Prohibiting Anti-War Statements and Calls for Sanctions" interwiki-linked to Федеральный закон № 32-ФЗ 2022 года. These future articles shoud containe not only overview and description of effect on society but also sections on application of law (notable cases) and on criticism by international organizations, human rights activists, etc. K8M8S8 ( talk) 15:24, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Newslinger's idea makes sense to me—this could remain a summary-style article that broadly covers all the fake news laws, with each of the laws having their own subarticle that covers each one in more depth. If that's what this split entails, then I'd support that. — Mhawk10 ( talk) 18:25, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
I've created four new sub-articles. Please check out. But I think we should keep this broad-concept article. K8M8S8 ( talk) 22:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
We currently have Similar Belarusian law as a past of the past ("had been") creation in 2021, but "similar to" the 2022 Russian law, since it is in the section on the 2022 Russian law. This makes sense, but I don't know if it's correct or not. It does sound a bit odd, because the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was still quite speculative in December 2021. Russian speakers should probably check this (and creating an article on the Belarusian law would help...). Boud ( talk) 01:48, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Moot. After the initial RM was posted, the scope of the article has expanded through ordinary editing, and it now covers multiple laws rather than one law. The RM initiator has boldly moved the article from "Russia fake news law" to the plural form, "Russian fake news laws", to reflect the expanded scope. Typically, we'd frown on editors posting an RM and then boldly moving the article while the RM is still going, but in this case, it seems appropriate and efficient, whether as WP:IAR or just natural WP:BOLD editing. In any event, the expansion of the scope of the article, and the new, plural, title, renders this original RM moot. Anyone should feel free to revert this close without discussing with me first if they disagree. ( non-admin closure) Levivich 17:12, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
Russia fake news law →
Federal Law No. 32-FZ of 4 March 2022 – There's more Russian laws regarding fake news. As the article itself indicates, this is only an amendment.
Super
Ψ
Dro
14:14, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Russian Federal Laws of 4 March 2022 №31-FZ and №32-FZ require separate article because these laws have the subject of legal regulation different from the the subject of legal regulation of the Federal Law of 18 March 2019 №31-FZ allowing Roskomnadzor to block the access to any online media in case of revealing a "fake news". And there is one more "fake news" law - the Federal Law of 1 April 2020 №100-FZ prohibiting fake information about COVID-19. We should avoid confusion. K8M8S8 ( talk) 21:02, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
So ...
Something like this. K8M8S8 ( talk) 21:14, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Russian Wikipedia containes separate articles for different "fake news" laws. For example, this Пакет федеральных законов о недостоверных новостях is devoted to 2019 Fake News Law, and this Федеральный закон № 32-ФЗ 2022 года is devoted to 2022 Laws Establishing War Censorship and Prohibiting Anti-War Statements and Calls for Sanctions. So, after splitting, we should fix interwiki links. K8M8S8 ( talk) 13:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Let me sum up (preliminary): now we have well-done broad-concept article devoted to group of Russian laws. In addition to this article, we may create separate articles "Russian 2019 Fake News Law" interwiki-linked to Пакет федеральных законов о недостоверных новостях and "Russian 2022 Laws Establishing War Censorship and Prohibiting Anti-War Statements and Calls for Sanctions" interwiki-linked to Федеральный закон № 32-ФЗ 2022 года. These future articles shoud containe not only overview and description of effect on society but also sections on application of law (notable cases) and on criticism by international organizations, human rights activists, etc. K8M8S8 ( talk) 15:24, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Newslinger's idea makes sense to me—this could remain a summary-style article that broadly covers all the fake news laws, with each of the laws having their own subarticle that covers each one in more depth. If that's what this split entails, then I'd support that. — Mhawk10 ( talk) 18:25, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
I've created four new sub-articles. Please check out. But I think we should keep this broad-concept article. K8M8S8 ( talk) 22:31, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
We currently have Similar Belarusian law as a past of the past ("had been") creation in 2021, but "similar to" the 2022 Russian law, since it is in the section on the 2022 Russian law. This makes sense, but I don't know if it's correct or not. It does sound a bit odd, because the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine was still quite speculative in December 2021. Russian speakers should probably check this (and creating an article on the Belarusian law would help...). Boud ( talk) 01:48, 19 March 2022 (UTC)