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Removing joshuaproject.net and finding a reliable population source
Three different uninvolved editors at
WP:RSN have concluded that Joshuaproject.net fails
WP:RS: "They should be considered unusable due to a lack of verifiable methodology and recognition for statistical or academic contribution, even when setting aside all questions of advocacy and bias."
[1], "We have no idea where they get their data, it's not part of their primary mission, and there's no significant penalty to them for errors, so I see no reason to consider them as a reliable source for population statistics."
[2], and "I cannot see anything on there about their quality control. For example statistics on India come from 'India - Omid / South Asia engineer'. Not reliable."
[3].
So I am removing the link to Joshua Project and the population figure from there once again. Please put efforts towards finding a reliable source with a population figure. Unfortunately I am not having much luck finding one so far: the Venezuelan census asked about
foreign-born population in 2001 but no figure was given for Russia (and anyway this wouldn't include Russian descendants born in Venezuela), I couldn't find anywhere that
the 2011 census asks about ethnic background, and from web searches I could only find vague historical information like that
300 families of Russians came to Venezuela in the mid-20th century. Anyone else have better sources? Thanks,
61.10.165.33 (
talk)
03:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)reply
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ethnic groups, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles relating to
ethnic groups, nationalities, and other cultural identities on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject Russia, a
WikiProject dedicated to coverage of
Russia on Wikipedia. To participate: Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the
project page, or contribute to the
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject Venezuela, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Venezuela on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
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Removing joshuaproject.net and finding a reliable population source
Three different uninvolved editors at
WP:RSN have concluded that Joshuaproject.net fails
WP:RS: "They should be considered unusable due to a lack of verifiable methodology and recognition for statistical or academic contribution, even when setting aside all questions of advocacy and bias."
[1], "We have no idea where they get their data, it's not part of their primary mission, and there's no significant penalty to them for errors, so I see no reason to consider them as a reliable source for population statistics."
[2], and "I cannot see anything on there about their quality control. For example statistics on India come from 'India - Omid / South Asia engineer'. Not reliable."
[3].
So I am removing the link to Joshua Project and the population figure from there once again. Please put efforts towards finding a reliable source with a population figure. Unfortunately I am not having much luck finding one so far: the Venezuelan census asked about
foreign-born population in 2001 but no figure was given for Russia (and anyway this wouldn't include Russian descendants born in Venezuela), I couldn't find anywhere that
the 2011 census asks about ethnic background, and from web searches I could only find vague historical information like that
300 families of Russians came to Venezuela in the mid-20th century. Anyone else have better sources? Thanks,
61.10.165.33 (
talk)
03:43, 14 January 2014 (UTC)reply