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I was checking through the refrences at the bottom of the page and several of them are invalid addresses. Currently looking to see if I can find information similar to what they should contain. Cencere ( talk) 04:50, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi
We are now up to 33 topics on this page, many of which are dead or repeats. I plan (unless there are any major objections) to archive this page, remove the older discussions, and place a couple of reminders about repeated issues that keep on turning up. I would like to do this next week, so if there are any objections please can we discuss them over the next 7 days. Any bits not resolved will not be done, any bits rejected will not be done, and and new bits suggested and meet with approval will be done.
Sections I propose to be remove:
Mistake in content
Runescape HD critical reaction
Game Change Consolidation
New animations?
Addition to the history page
German Beta
Runescape Unique Gameplay omissions
3 new server locations
I cant edit
Runescape history
Problems with the article
New Proposed External Link
German Servers
Criticism
Way off
recent reviews
hi
Any objections if?
Sections I propose to add:
Reminder that all comments need come from a verifiable source
Big notice that the article is semi protected
Request for sourced verifiable negative opinion
(and this one, obviously)
Any for or against-please post and discuss.
FlashNerdX (
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15:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
I think that a controversy section should be added talking about this games addictive properties and its anti religious philosophy Runemaster24 ( talk) 02:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't think Runescape Wiki is usually considered a major fansite. I know an earlier rule was just to stick with Zybez, Tip.it, and RuneHQ, has that changed? 76.27.55.64 ( talk) 02:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The runescape wiki is not considered one of the major three sites. My vote is to remove it.
75.163.240.140 (
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22:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Keep it, I removed it's 'major fansite' claim a while back. It provides just as much help as Zybez, tip.it, HQ and etc. A Prodigy ~In Pursuit of Perfection~ 09:17, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
It says "RuneScape Classic was closed to new accounts and restricted to paying members who had played Classic at least once since 3 August 2005, and once every six months after that"
I believe you misread this, you do not have to log in once every six months after that. You had to have logged in at least once within the 6 months following August 3rd 2005, but after that you never had to log into it again.
I would have put this on the main page but I can't. So hopefully one of you can, then delete this.
Edit: Here is the source of this. http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarticle.ws?article_id=752
StrawberryKitten ( talk) 22:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
The brand new graphics of Runescape, known as "Runescape HD" has recieved mixed critical reaction in the Runescape forums, mostly negative. Most players complain about the new look of the characters, certain items, and emotes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.30.240.20 ( talk) 00:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Currently there are a number of repeated statements in the Rules & Cheating and Reception parts of the document covering the game changes from the beginning of the year. Does anyone has a problem with me putting them into one place? Both sections mention the negative reaction to the changes and both use the same reference, as they are so close together it makes sense to me to not repeat the information and I think it would go better in the Reception section (which deals with peoples opinions and reactions to the game) than the more descriptive 'what do they do 'Rules & Cheating' section. FlashNerdX ( talk) 20:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
No objections so done FlashNerdX ( talk) 19:29, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
We need new animations to reflect the graphics updates. I can make animations. Tell me what we need an animation of, and I have no problem going and getting it. Tebuddy ( talk) 19:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
July 2008 (UTC)
For some reason, I cannot seem to edit this article due to the semi-protection(My account has been made for a long while now, and yet I cant seem to edit it), so could someone please add in that the Free-To-Play version of Runescape HD was released on Monday, July 14, 2008?-- Roflthatnoobgotowned ( talk) 00:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Reading this article, i've noticed that it incorrectly states there are four German servers. I have been to the German beta on the Runescape website, and there are 5 servers; 3 free, and 2 members. I am unable to edit the page, so I wish to draw attention to this matter. Smartstuff13 ( talk) 06:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, never mind. There are correctly four German servers; world 147 is no longer on the German beta. Smartstuff13 ( talk) 06:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I am a former WOW player who has played Runescape for over 2 years now. The reasons I like Runescape over WOW or many other games out there are the same reasons I like playing Chess -- it takes a lot of planning and thinking and when your plans come together it is really rewarding. It is MUCH harder to level a character up on Runescape. I don't care about the graphics. I know I am not alone in this. Runescape is a lifelong game. I had several friends with characters in WOW, for example, who had multiple characters leveled-up to max. I know NO players personally who have doen this in Runescape. That's a pretty big difference from other mmorpg's. TO me (and many others) it is the most important difference. It is NOT a simple game. If you glance at the game it looks graphically simple, but so does chess. These "analysts" cited have obviously never played Runescape very long, or just glanced superficially at it and assumed it was similar to other MMORPG's in this regard. This is a HUGE omission! it is the main reason people stay with Runescape so long. Here is the relevant passage from the Wiki article:
Quote: "Its analysis posits that "RuneScape’s mass-market appeal lies in its simplicity and accessibility (both financial and technical). It has tapped into the vast market of games players unwilling or unable to spend premium prices on PCs capable of playing the latest, expensive, processor-intensive games. Its core gameplay concepts are very similar to its retail-distributed RPG and MMORPG analogues".[70]
The concepts are not similar. On the surface they seem to be, but earlier in the article you mentioned the more open game play without a specific path to follow -- you have to THINK much more about what you are doing and the skills and paths you take can be combined or put in various order to work together. Within each skill, the things you can do to level up vary in their difficulty and distances to resources which take careful thought and planning as well. As you level up, it gets harder to level. That is pretty core to the game concept, and contradictory with the quote I copied above, because earlier you say it has more open play than all the others. It is very intellectually challenging and not thinking about it and planning can leave you doing several times the work, making it nearly impossible to level-up. You can of course walk around all day simply doing nothing in the game, but if you actually play the game it is mind-numbingly complex. THAT is the game's main strength, along with being able to play anywhere. Most play-anywhere flash games are mind-numbingly simple -- this is virtually the only one this complex.
Runescape only looks simple. Just add a line that runescape characters take much longer to level up to maximum than every other game I know of out there. It takes more planning too. Runescape is harder. It is a challenging game. It is a much harder game than WOW, for example -- even though wow has more complex-looking graphics. This is a very important distinction. Somewhere it needs to be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiralsun1 ( talk • contribs) 08:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
gree, but please sign your posts with four tildes. To be honest, I think RuneScape has arguably better graphics than "wow", now anyway. RuneScape does have more skills and costs less monthly, and you can do whatever you want without creating a new characters, for the most part. You can switch between any "class" at any time. 76.212.15.113 ( talk) 11:08, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree with JimMiller. Obviously the actual game is not a source, though its website is. But you have to be careful not to overuse primary sources, and you won't find the stuff being discussed here on the RS website. Secondary sources are needed and we don't have them. 1ForTheMoney ( talk) 14:51, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
On July 9th 2008 Jagex released the Jagex store which currently only holds one product: the Runescape Novel "betrayal at Falador" by T.S Church. Jagex has mentioned that more merchandise will be available, including many from the "Shop till you Drop" player poll which was conducted in April 2008( http://news.runescape.com/c=-5f5a3863/newsitem.ws?id=1300). trevor.eh ( talk) 03:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
There is also another published book on the market: "Runescape: The official Handbook", written by Tracey West. This book was published January 1 2007 by Scholastic and covers the basics of the free version of the game (
http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/Runescape-The-Official-Handbook-Tracey-West/9780439877725-item.html?ref=Search+Books%3a+%2527runescape%2527&sterm=runescape+-+Books).
trevor.eh (
talk)
03:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
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There is a lot of vandalism on this page.
Not done It has been removed along time ago.
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23:19, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
they have 3 new server locations in, mexico, belguim, and norway. Mickman1234 ( talk) 10:15, 5 August 2008 (ust)
they have also added servers for ireland, denmark, new zealand, and brazil. here's proof [http:// http://www.runescape.com/slj.ws?rs.x=35&rs.y=3]-- Kanata Kid ( talk) 13:54, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey i would like to say that the edit tab is gone on the article page.Is it because it is edited too much because i can edit other pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucas8k ( talk • contribs) 18:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we put in a section about runescape's history.It could be brief detailing what the god wars were and why guthix stopped it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucas8k ( talk • contribs) 19:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Several problems that need to be brought-up. I've had friends who've played Runescape (even I at one point) and I know there is stuff missing. Things that would allow for a more neutral POV, reducing the page's appearance as an ad. For one, in the article, it implies that the cost for Runescape was always around 4$ before being changed to 5$. I remember it was $15 in the recent past, around a year ago. They dropped the price over 50% due to many issues which I am about to bring-up. In the past there have been numberless hacking attempts and successful sabotages of game code. These were all from dissatisfied players some of my friends knew. On top of that, the article also fails to note a particularly notable glitch, the million gold shop, which caused around 50,000 to cancel their memberships. Finally, the most peculiar, after reading through page Runescape news articles, there is a negligence to mention these things, despite being known by . Articles were also evidently removed, as I remember many logs about removing glitches and trying to regain customer support. All of these need to be noted. I have not added these to the article for this would be a no-doubt controversial topic, especially if Jagex denies any of these events. Thank you for reading this and I must request members who wish to contribute to find evidence; get some members to speak-up and have them publicize it. I hope that this will pave a way to a more neutral POV Wikipedia, even through just one article. -- Eiyuu Kou ( talk) 01:45, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Never been $15 a month and I have no idea where you got the idea from, nor the 'million gold shop' causing 50k to quit the game (unless you mean them trying to stop real money trading, which is already in the article and says that people left because of it). As for the rest of it whilst NPOV is important the lack of any verifiable sources means your claims for such things can't go up till you have them. "the veteran community" and "friends who've played" does not cut it - for what you need please go and check WP:V.
I propose that we add a link to wikihow.com/Category:RuneScape. Thoughts? Eric-Wester ( talk) 02:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
They're are supposed to be 5 german based servers, with 3 of them being f2p servers and 2 of them being p2p servers. I can't edit it, so someone will have to do it for me. User:Froggie13 09:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I propose there is something regarding recent updates. Perhaps another media could be found as a reference to it so we have jagex + player perspectives of the new update. Here is a youtube link for example of the new quest update: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B_b28-1UuWo
You could also read from the main runescape page though to see jagex's side.
Something about this should be added to the official article:
RuneScape has also been also receiving criticism for Jagex's "lack of customer support" in response to the removal of the "comment on our service" button a few months ago. This button was the only way regular players could contact Jagex staff unless they were appealing an offence or submitting a bug report. There is very little interaction between Jagex staff and their players as it is and players are angered by the fact that they cannot contact Jagex for queries about the game. Right now, save the extremely rare case you run into a Jagex mod in-game, there is no way to talk with Jagex staff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by InkRaven ( talk • contribs) 22:15, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Any proof?-- Megaman en m ( talk) 22:36, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
WP:NOR ( Butters x ( talk) 15:16, 10 August 2008 (UTC))
To be honest there is endless proof of this. As an experienced player myself, I know how hard it is to contact a REAL Jagex employee about both major and minor issues. Take the instance that you are banned unfairly. No matter how passionate your appeals are and no matter how much proof you give that you are innocent, it amounts to nothing. You recieve an automated response which deams you randomly either guilty or innocent. Browse through Zybez RSC, there are humourous pictures in there of banned players using obscene language and personal threats in appeals, and somehow being unbanned. I acknowledge that Jagex staff are few in number, but with the amount of money the company makes, it SHOULD hire more people and expand it's customer support crew. I may have ranted and gone off-topic a tad, but I hope you see my point... A Prodigy ( t• c• m) 20:38, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Runescape has something like, 125 million free players. Fix this please Twentilla ( talk) 07:50, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Err...no, it doesn't...50%? More like 10%... 76.212.7.63 ( talk) 00:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
---Theres really no way we can tell, right? So if we don't know, can we really put anything at all? 70.144.225.9( talk)
Can anyone add some reviews after 1 July?-- Megaman en m ( talk) 21:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
On the front page of the website jagex stated that in the future they will offer unique pvp worlds. Should we put this in the article. Lucas8k ( talk) 20:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I noticed there wasn't anything about minigames in this article. Should we atleast put something about minigames in this article? Infernal495 ( talk) 19:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
im a registred user why i cant edit this page?
-- Sistemx ( talk) 03:36, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, just wondering if the fact about RuneScape being the #1 Free MMO needed to be added to the current article. (The Guiness Record) Mr freeze128 ( talk) 03:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I think they should add that and this will show to the world that Runescape is now the 2nd most popular online game beating World of Warcraft(WOW) that is now number 3.Sorry for my lack of grammar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zird345 ( talk • contribs) 11:22, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Here is says that WoW is number one. [3]-- Megaman en m ( talk) 12:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
WoW cant be number one because it isnt free, the offical runescape site is a source also you can find it on the offical Guiness World Records site —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.59.226 ( talk) 14:31, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Guinness World Records Gamer's Edition 2008, page 184: "Largest free MMORPG runescape. More than 10 million free accounts have been created and more than one million who pay for added content, such as extra quests". Someone another 02:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
It may say that in the book, but that cannot be used as a reliable source. I can find nothing on the official site- http://gamers.guinnessworldrecords.com/ Celtic Muffin&Co. ( talk) 19:35, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
in the to do list there are three of the same type. update the article, Update the article to include the current changes and standards, and update the photos. and does anything else needs updating besides the photos?-- Megaman en m ( talk) 15:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Afternoon, folks. I know I've lapsed out of this article now, but I thought I'd let you know: the current issue of PC Gamer UK (issue 192, dated October 2008 (yes, I know), pages 88-89) carries a full, proper review of RuneScape. 72%, not bad. I can post some excerpts if you want, and a cut down version of the review will probably turn up in a bit at computerandvideogames.com (PCG's publisher's website, does exactly what it says on the tin). Wonder if RS'll be getting the Yahtzee treatment next? CaptainVindaloo t c e 14:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Would anyone mind terribly if I was to archive the page, remove the dead and resolved discussions? And would people mind if I were to add a quick explanation as to what Wiki policies on WP:NOR, WP:RS, WP:VER, & WP:SELFPUB are, along with what a semi protected article is, so that we wouldn't get repeated "why can't I edit the main article?" and "I have found no usable references to neg crit of RS but we should add it in anyway" threads? FlashNerdX ( talk) 15:40, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I have just gone through the articles http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:RuneScape&direction=prev&oldid=235181194 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RuneScape/Archive_27 and can't see a different. If I mucked up the copy & paste then point out where and I'll add it in. However I can't see any removal of dead discussions or changing of comments. Unless I am seriously missing something here I really have no clue what your going on about. As to my two warnings - one was for removing a reference and source that didn't meet WP:SPS/ WP:VER and the other was for removing stuff off my own talk page before I knew the guideline about archiving your talk page. Which brings my wrap sheet up to one possible mucked up copy/paste, one not knowing the rules about your own talk page, and one attempt at using WP:VER/ WP:SPS. If you want to ban me for that then I obviously can't stop you, however I'd really like to know on what grounds so that I don't get it wrong again. I have done nothing that I can see that would count me as a vandal.
" Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, or the insertion of nonsense into articles.
Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. "
Please note that I will not be making any more edits to this page, other than additions in this single section, until you remove the threat of banning me for trying to improve an article that I've been putting a lot of effort into. Also please note that I posted up this section to see if anyone who was a regular to this page had I problem with my intended reaction, not to argue with you about my actions. I was fine keeping that on my talk page (like I had done with others before) and will happily stop clogging up the page if you are willing to take it back to there. FlashNerdX ( talk) 16:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
its going to happen we all know it!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Demonofjapan ( talk • contribs) 11:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Proof?-- Megaman en m ( talk) 11:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
^^ Celtic Muffin&Co. ( talk) 19:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Ok i wanted to make a edit in the Runescape wikipedia article because i wanted to represent all the player names that play this game. I play myself to TJ 945. Pilotman555 ( talk) 21:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
... You want to name all 11.000.000 players?-- Megaman en m ( talk) 11:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
runescape is afree online game but when you want to be a mitglied you have to pay 11,euro you can have more skills weapons etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.138.133.236 ( talk) 09:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
And your point is? We can't add prices in an encyclopedia if that's what you're asking.-- Megaman en m ( talk) 11:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Err...Ok... CelticMuffin ( talk) 19:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
um... no its like $5.95 here in the US and your getting ripped off credit card is much cheaper(if you have one) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.23.28.212 ( talk) 02:25, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't think the current animations on this article represent RuneScape as a whole. Almost all of them show a single player in the same outfit, and the combat one shows four identical players. I think new animations should be added showing various players in different outfits and armor. 66.189.89.112 ( talk) 02:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
There are more than 10 million active free accounts on Runescape. I changed this number to reflect the true amount of active freeplayer accounts. Also, I added the fact that there are over 135 million accounts created today. I think this will better inform the people reading this article to how many players there are. Also, one quick question :Who is the user in the animations? The Beatles Fan ( talk) 20:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I heard that Jagex will make it so that you can carry 50 items with you, but in about a few years, maybe 3. 209.124.244.61 ( talk) 19:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
First of all you have no proof and second it's dumb to list such a small update.-- Megaman en m ( talk) 19:41, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Welcome to the land of stupid suggestions that were banned from being suggested-- Jakezing ( talk) 22:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
It seem about once a day some one suggests something for the article that is in direct violation of Wikipedia: NOR Celtic Muffin&Co. ( talk) 19:41, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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I was checking through the refrences at the bottom of the page and several of them are invalid addresses. Currently looking to see if I can find information similar to what they should contain. Cencere ( talk) 04:50, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi
We are now up to 33 topics on this page, many of which are dead or repeats. I plan (unless there are any major objections) to archive this page, remove the older discussions, and place a couple of reminders about repeated issues that keep on turning up. I would like to do this next week, so if there are any objections please can we discuss them over the next 7 days. Any bits not resolved will not be done, any bits rejected will not be done, and and new bits suggested and meet with approval will be done.
Sections I propose to be remove:
Mistake in content
Runescape HD critical reaction
Game Change Consolidation
New animations?
Addition to the history page
German Beta
Runescape Unique Gameplay omissions
3 new server locations
I cant edit
Runescape history
Problems with the article
New Proposed External Link
German Servers
Criticism
Way off
recent reviews
hi
Any objections if?
Sections I propose to add:
Reminder that all comments need come from a verifiable source
Big notice that the article is semi protected
Request for sourced verifiable negative opinion
(and this one, obviously)
Any for or against-please post and discuss.
FlashNerdX (
talk)
15:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
I think that a controversy section should be added talking about this games addictive properties and its anti religious philosophy Runemaster24 ( talk) 02:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't think Runescape Wiki is usually considered a major fansite. I know an earlier rule was just to stick with Zybez, Tip.it, and RuneHQ, has that changed? 76.27.55.64 ( talk) 02:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The runescape wiki is not considered one of the major three sites. My vote is to remove it.
75.163.240.140 (
talk)
22:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Keep it, I removed it's 'major fansite' claim a while back. It provides just as much help as Zybez, tip.it, HQ and etc. A Prodigy ~In Pursuit of Perfection~ 09:17, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
It says "RuneScape Classic was closed to new accounts and restricted to paying members who had played Classic at least once since 3 August 2005, and once every six months after that"
I believe you misread this, you do not have to log in once every six months after that. You had to have logged in at least once within the 6 months following August 3rd 2005, but after that you never had to log into it again.
I would have put this on the main page but I can't. So hopefully one of you can, then delete this.
Edit: Here is the source of this. http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarticle.ws?article_id=752
StrawberryKitten ( talk) 22:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
The brand new graphics of Runescape, known as "Runescape HD" has recieved mixed critical reaction in the Runescape forums, mostly negative. Most players complain about the new look of the characters, certain items, and emotes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.30.240.20 ( talk) 00:44, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Currently there are a number of repeated statements in the Rules & Cheating and Reception parts of the document covering the game changes from the beginning of the year. Does anyone has a problem with me putting them into one place? Both sections mention the negative reaction to the changes and both use the same reference, as they are so close together it makes sense to me to not repeat the information and I think it would go better in the Reception section (which deals with peoples opinions and reactions to the game) than the more descriptive 'what do they do 'Rules & Cheating' section. FlashNerdX ( talk) 20:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
No objections so done FlashNerdX ( talk) 19:29, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
We need new animations to reflect the graphics updates. I can make animations. Tell me what we need an animation of, and I have no problem going and getting it. Tebuddy ( talk) 19:56, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
July 2008 (UTC)
For some reason, I cannot seem to edit this article due to the semi-protection(My account has been made for a long while now, and yet I cant seem to edit it), so could someone please add in that the Free-To-Play version of Runescape HD was released on Monday, July 14, 2008?-- Roflthatnoobgotowned ( talk) 00:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Reading this article, i've noticed that it incorrectly states there are four German servers. I have been to the German beta on the Runescape website, and there are 5 servers; 3 free, and 2 members. I am unable to edit the page, so I wish to draw attention to this matter. Smartstuff13 ( talk) 06:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, never mind. There are correctly four German servers; world 147 is no longer on the German beta. Smartstuff13 ( talk) 06:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
I am a former WOW player who has played Runescape for over 2 years now. The reasons I like Runescape over WOW or many other games out there are the same reasons I like playing Chess -- it takes a lot of planning and thinking and when your plans come together it is really rewarding. It is MUCH harder to level a character up on Runescape. I don't care about the graphics. I know I am not alone in this. Runescape is a lifelong game. I had several friends with characters in WOW, for example, who had multiple characters leveled-up to max. I know NO players personally who have doen this in Runescape. That's a pretty big difference from other mmorpg's. TO me (and many others) it is the most important difference. It is NOT a simple game. If you glance at the game it looks graphically simple, but so does chess. These "analysts" cited have obviously never played Runescape very long, or just glanced superficially at it and assumed it was similar to other MMORPG's in this regard. This is a HUGE omission! it is the main reason people stay with Runescape so long. Here is the relevant passage from the Wiki article:
Quote: "Its analysis posits that "RuneScape’s mass-market appeal lies in its simplicity and accessibility (both financial and technical). It has tapped into the vast market of games players unwilling or unable to spend premium prices on PCs capable of playing the latest, expensive, processor-intensive games. Its core gameplay concepts are very similar to its retail-distributed RPG and MMORPG analogues".[70]
The concepts are not similar. On the surface they seem to be, but earlier in the article you mentioned the more open game play without a specific path to follow -- you have to THINK much more about what you are doing and the skills and paths you take can be combined or put in various order to work together. Within each skill, the things you can do to level up vary in their difficulty and distances to resources which take careful thought and planning as well. As you level up, it gets harder to level. That is pretty core to the game concept, and contradictory with the quote I copied above, because earlier you say it has more open play than all the others. It is very intellectually challenging and not thinking about it and planning can leave you doing several times the work, making it nearly impossible to level-up. You can of course walk around all day simply doing nothing in the game, but if you actually play the game it is mind-numbingly complex. THAT is the game's main strength, along with being able to play anywhere. Most play-anywhere flash games are mind-numbingly simple -- this is virtually the only one this complex.
Runescape only looks simple. Just add a line that runescape characters take much longer to level up to maximum than every other game I know of out there. It takes more planning too. Runescape is harder. It is a challenging game. It is a much harder game than WOW, for example -- even though wow has more complex-looking graphics. This is a very important distinction. Somewhere it needs to be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiralsun1 ( talk • contribs) 08:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
gree, but please sign your posts with four tildes. To be honest, I think RuneScape has arguably better graphics than "wow", now anyway. RuneScape does have more skills and costs less monthly, and you can do whatever you want without creating a new characters, for the most part. You can switch between any "class" at any time. 76.212.15.113 ( talk) 11:08, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree with JimMiller. Obviously the actual game is not a source, though its website is. But you have to be careful not to overuse primary sources, and you won't find the stuff being discussed here on the RS website. Secondary sources are needed and we don't have them. 1ForTheMoney ( talk) 14:51, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
On July 9th 2008 Jagex released the Jagex store which currently only holds one product: the Runescape Novel "betrayal at Falador" by T.S Church. Jagex has mentioned that more merchandise will be available, including many from the "Shop till you Drop" player poll which was conducted in April 2008( http://news.runescape.com/c=-5f5a3863/newsitem.ws?id=1300). trevor.eh ( talk) 03:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
There is also another published book on the market: "Runescape: The official Handbook", written by Tracey West. This book was published January 1 2007 by Scholastic and covers the basics of the free version of the game (
http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/books/Runescape-The-Official-Handbook-Tracey-West/9780439877725-item.html?ref=Search+Books%3a+%2527runescape%2527&sterm=runescape+-+Books).
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they have 3 new server locations in, mexico, belguim, and norway. Mickman1234 ( talk) 10:15, 5 August 2008 (ust)
they have also added servers for ireland, denmark, new zealand, and brazil. here's proof [http:// http://www.runescape.com/slj.ws?rs.x=35&rs.y=3]-- Kanata Kid ( talk) 13:54, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey i would like to say that the edit tab is gone on the article page.Is it because it is edited too much because i can edit other pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucas8k ( talk • contribs) 18:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't we put in a section about runescape's history.It could be brief detailing what the god wars were and why guthix stopped it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucas8k ( talk • contribs) 19:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Several problems that need to be brought-up. I've had friends who've played Runescape (even I at one point) and I know there is stuff missing. Things that would allow for a more neutral POV, reducing the page's appearance as an ad. For one, in the article, it implies that the cost for Runescape was always around 4$ before being changed to 5$. I remember it was $15 in the recent past, around a year ago. They dropped the price over 50% due to many issues which I am about to bring-up. In the past there have been numberless hacking attempts and successful sabotages of game code. These were all from dissatisfied players some of my friends knew. On top of that, the article also fails to note a particularly notable glitch, the million gold shop, which caused around 50,000 to cancel their memberships. Finally, the most peculiar, after reading through page Runescape news articles, there is a negligence to mention these things, despite being known by . Articles were also evidently removed, as I remember many logs about removing glitches and trying to regain customer support. All of these need to be noted. I have not added these to the article for this would be a no-doubt controversial topic, especially if Jagex denies any of these events. Thank you for reading this and I must request members who wish to contribute to find evidence; get some members to speak-up and have them publicize it. I hope that this will pave a way to a more neutral POV Wikipedia, even through just one article. -- Eiyuu Kou ( talk) 01:45, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Never been $15 a month and I have no idea where you got the idea from, nor the 'million gold shop' causing 50k to quit the game (unless you mean them trying to stop real money trading, which is already in the article and says that people left because of it). As for the rest of it whilst NPOV is important the lack of any verifiable sources means your claims for such things can't go up till you have them. "the veteran community" and "friends who've played" does not cut it - for what you need please go and check WP:V.
I propose that we add a link to wikihow.com/Category:RuneScape. Thoughts? Eric-Wester ( talk) 02:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
They're are supposed to be 5 german based servers, with 3 of them being f2p servers and 2 of them being p2p servers. I can't edit it, so someone will have to do it for me. User:Froggie13 09:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I propose there is something regarding recent updates. Perhaps another media could be found as a reference to it so we have jagex + player perspectives of the new update. Here is a youtube link for example of the new quest update: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B_b28-1UuWo
You could also read from the main runescape page though to see jagex's side.
Something about this should be added to the official article:
RuneScape has also been also receiving criticism for Jagex's "lack of customer support" in response to the removal of the "comment on our service" button a few months ago. This button was the only way regular players could contact Jagex staff unless they were appealing an offence or submitting a bug report. There is very little interaction between Jagex staff and their players as it is and players are angered by the fact that they cannot contact Jagex for queries about the game. Right now, save the extremely rare case you run into a Jagex mod in-game, there is no way to talk with Jagex staff. —Preceding unsigned comment added by InkRaven ( talk • contribs) 22:15, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Any proof?-- Megaman en m ( talk) 22:36, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
WP:NOR ( Butters x ( talk) 15:16, 10 August 2008 (UTC))
To be honest there is endless proof of this. As an experienced player myself, I know how hard it is to contact a REAL Jagex employee about both major and minor issues. Take the instance that you are banned unfairly. No matter how passionate your appeals are and no matter how much proof you give that you are innocent, it amounts to nothing. You recieve an automated response which deams you randomly either guilty or innocent. Browse through Zybez RSC, there are humourous pictures in there of banned players using obscene language and personal threats in appeals, and somehow being unbanned. I acknowledge that Jagex staff are few in number, but with the amount of money the company makes, it SHOULD hire more people and expand it's customer support crew. I may have ranted and gone off-topic a tad, but I hope you see my point... A Prodigy ( t• c• m) 20:38, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Runescape has something like, 125 million free players. Fix this please Twentilla ( talk) 07:50, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Err...no, it doesn't...50%? More like 10%... 76.212.7.63 ( talk) 00:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
---Theres really no way we can tell, right? So if we don't know, can we really put anything at all? 70.144.225.9( talk)
Can anyone add some reviews after 1 July?-- Megaman en m ( talk) 21:52, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
On the front page of the website jagex stated that in the future they will offer unique pvp worlds. Should we put this in the article. Lucas8k ( talk) 20:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I noticed there wasn't anything about minigames in this article. Should we atleast put something about minigames in this article? Infernal495 ( talk) 19:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
im a registred user why i cant edit this page?
-- Sistemx ( talk) 03:36, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, just wondering if the fact about RuneScape being the #1 Free MMO needed to be added to the current article. (The Guiness Record) Mr freeze128 ( talk) 03:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
I think they should add that and this will show to the world that Runescape is now the 2nd most popular online game beating World of Warcraft(WOW) that is now number 3.Sorry for my lack of grammar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zird345 ( talk • contribs) 11:22, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Here is says that WoW is number one. [3]-- Megaman en m ( talk) 12:05, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
WoW cant be number one because it isnt free, the offical runescape site is a source also you can find it on the offical Guiness World Records site —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.59.226 ( talk) 14:31, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Guinness World Records Gamer's Edition 2008, page 184: "Largest free MMORPG runescape. More than 10 million free accounts have been created and more than one million who pay for added content, such as extra quests". Someone another 02:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
It may say that in the book, but that cannot be used as a reliable source. I can find nothing on the official site- http://gamers.guinnessworldrecords.com/ Celtic Muffin&Co. ( talk) 19:35, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
in the to do list there are three of the same type. update the article, Update the article to include the current changes and standards, and update the photos. and does anything else needs updating besides the photos?-- Megaman en m ( talk) 15:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Afternoon, folks. I know I've lapsed out of this article now, but I thought I'd let you know: the current issue of PC Gamer UK (issue 192, dated October 2008 (yes, I know), pages 88-89) carries a full, proper review of RuneScape. 72%, not bad. I can post some excerpts if you want, and a cut down version of the review will probably turn up in a bit at computerandvideogames.com (PCG's publisher's website, does exactly what it says on the tin). Wonder if RS'll be getting the Yahtzee treatment next? CaptainVindaloo t c e 14:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Would anyone mind terribly if I was to archive the page, remove the dead and resolved discussions? And would people mind if I were to add a quick explanation as to what Wiki policies on WP:NOR, WP:RS, WP:VER, & WP:SELFPUB are, along with what a semi protected article is, so that we wouldn't get repeated "why can't I edit the main article?" and "I have found no usable references to neg crit of RS but we should add it in anyway" threads? FlashNerdX ( talk) 15:40, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I have just gone through the articles http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:RuneScape&direction=prev&oldid=235181194 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RuneScape/Archive_27 and can't see a different. If I mucked up the copy & paste then point out where and I'll add it in. However I can't see any removal of dead discussions or changing of comments. Unless I am seriously missing something here I really have no clue what your going on about. As to my two warnings - one was for removing a reference and source that didn't meet WP:SPS/ WP:VER and the other was for removing stuff off my own talk page before I knew the guideline about archiving your talk page. Which brings my wrap sheet up to one possible mucked up copy/paste, one not knowing the rules about your own talk page, and one attempt at using WP:VER/ WP:SPS. If you want to ban me for that then I obviously can't stop you, however I'd really like to know on what grounds so that I don't get it wrong again. I have done nothing that I can see that would count me as a vandal.
" Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, or the insertion of nonsense into articles.
Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. "
Please note that I will not be making any more edits to this page, other than additions in this single section, until you remove the threat of banning me for trying to improve an article that I've been putting a lot of effort into. Also please note that I posted up this section to see if anyone who was a regular to this page had I problem with my intended reaction, not to argue with you about my actions. I was fine keeping that on my talk page (like I had done with others before) and will happily stop clogging up the page if you are willing to take it back to there. FlashNerdX ( talk) 16:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
its going to happen we all know it!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Demonofjapan ( talk • contribs) 11:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Proof?-- Megaman en m ( talk) 11:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
^^ Celtic Muffin&Co. ( talk) 19:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Ok i wanted to make a edit in the Runescape wikipedia article because i wanted to represent all the player names that play this game. I play myself to TJ 945. Pilotman555 ( talk) 21:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
... You want to name all 11.000.000 players?-- Megaman en m ( talk) 11:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
runescape is afree online game but when you want to be a mitglied you have to pay 11,euro you can have more skills weapons etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.138.133.236 ( talk) 09:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
And your point is? We can't add prices in an encyclopedia if that's what you're asking.-- Megaman en m ( talk) 11:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Err...Ok... CelticMuffin ( talk) 19:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
um... no its like $5.95 here in the US and your getting ripped off credit card is much cheaper(if you have one) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.23.28.212 ( talk) 02:25, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't think the current animations on this article represent RuneScape as a whole. Almost all of them show a single player in the same outfit, and the combat one shows four identical players. I think new animations should be added showing various players in different outfits and armor. 66.189.89.112 ( talk) 02:28, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
There are more than 10 million active free accounts on Runescape. I changed this number to reflect the true amount of active freeplayer accounts. Also, I added the fact that there are over 135 million accounts created today. I think this will better inform the people reading this article to how many players there are. Also, one quick question :Who is the user in the animations? The Beatles Fan ( talk) 20:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
I heard that Jagex will make it so that you can carry 50 items with you, but in about a few years, maybe 3. 209.124.244.61 ( talk) 19:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
First of all you have no proof and second it's dumb to list such a small update.-- Megaman en m ( talk) 19:41, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Welcome to the land of stupid suggestions that were banned from being suggested-- Jakezing ( talk) 22:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
It seem about once a day some one suggests something for the article that is in direct violation of Wikipedia: NOR Celtic Muffin&Co. ( talk) 19:41, 18 September 2008 (UTC)