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The "description" of this song is horrid, with all respect to its author(s). Grammar, tense, syntax and just about everything else are simply awful, and it reads as one individual's assessment of her life as scripted by tabloid media rather than a neutral presentation of the song and/or video and why it's notable per WP:SONG (it's notable in that it's her first-ever single, and the article all but throws away that fact in favor of someone's individual research). As written, this qualifies for speedy deletion, and I will do so absent a top-to-bottom rewrite. Sorry if I seem harsh, but these are the facts. RadioKirk ( u| t| c) 04:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
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Lindsay Lohan was caught lip syncing on to this song on Good Morning America live on TV. YouTube has a video of it: [1] (See around 2:13 - 2:17 where she's singing "I just need to clear my mind... my mind...") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.159.151.3 ( talk) 05:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Till ( talk · contribs) 10:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi! I will review this article :) Till 10:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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- Because it looks more appealing Till 03:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the proposal was move. Arguments regarding the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC don't apply here, as neither article is the primary topic of the title Rumors; they need to be effectively disambiguated regardless. Cúchullain t/ c 19:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Rumors (song) → Rumors (Lindsay Lohan song) – There is another more notable Rumors song, Rumors (Timex Social Club song). Relisted. Jenks24 ( talk) 10:15, 4 July 2012 (UTC) Morbidthoughts ( talk) 22:28, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Support. Two articles with the same name, so should be disambiguated. Till 09:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I see only two articles on a song named "Rumors" and the Wikpedia article on the Lindsay Lohan song has more than twice the traffic as that on the Timex Social Club song (compare them now [2] v [3]). Further, no dab page per WP:TWODABS, but I've created a hatnote on Rumors (song) pointing to Rumors (Timex Social Club song) [4]. -- →gab 24dot grab← 19:40, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose per 24dot. Theoldsparkle ( talk) 14:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support. The Timex Social Club song was a Top Ten Pop and #1 R&B hit in the US, more notable than Lohan song which did not even make the Top 100. Redirect Rumors (song) to Rumor (disambiguation); few people actually type "Rumors (song)". — AjaxSmack 01:23, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC does not apply here; neither of these articles will be the primary topic and moved to Rumors -- getting readers navigated to the article they are most likely seeking from an unqualified title is the purpose of primary topic. So these song articles need to be qualified. If we agree that they need to be qualified, WP:NCM tells us how to do so, and does not rely on the relative usage of the two songs. -- JHunterJ ( talk) 12:46, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
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The "description" of this song is horrid, with all respect to its author(s). Grammar, tense, syntax and just about everything else are simply awful, and it reads as one individual's assessment of her life as scripted by tabloid media rather than a neutral presentation of the song and/or video and why it's notable per WP:SONG (it's notable in that it's her first-ever single, and the article all but throws away that fact in favor of someone's individual research). As written, this qualifies for speedy deletion, and I will do so absent a top-to-bottom rewrite. Sorry if I seem harsh, but these are the facts. RadioKirk ( u| t| c) 04:27, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Image:LL-Rumors.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot 09:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Image:Rumours2.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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Lindsay Lohan was caught lip syncing on to this song on Good Morning America live on TV. YouTube has a video of it: [1] (See around 2:13 - 2:17 where she's singing "I just need to clear my mind... my mind...") —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.159.151.3 ( talk) 05:09, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
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Hi! I will review this article :) Till 10:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Lead
- It was released as the first single from the album --> so lead single?
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Saulo
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- The lead and "background/composition" section state that it derives from the "teen pop" genre although the Infobox does not.
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music critics
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Background and composition
- New York, New York -> Distinguish from city and state please
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- The lead states that the song was released on 21 September 2004 although this is nowhere in the article (besides infobox).
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Reception
- The song received generally mixed reviews from contemporary critics. -> Start with the song's actual title, "Rumors", and again -
music critics.
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Fixed -
Saulo
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- Some quotes could do with some paraphrasing
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Saulo
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- I think it is worthy of mentioning that it was certified Gold by ARIA (in Australia).
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Saulo
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20:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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- It also charted in Sweden and Netherlands.
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Saulo
Talk to Me
20:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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Promotion
- Commissioned is spelt wrong.
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Saulo
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20:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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- There are some commas that need to be put in the music video section for a better flow.
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Saulo
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20:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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Credits and personnel
- Make a column for personnel.
- Why is this necessary? - Saulo Talk to Me 20:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
- Because it looks more appealing Till 03:15, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
Track listings
- Instead of [...], use (...)
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Fixed -
Saulo
Talk to Me
20:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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Weekly charts
- Need to be separated into 2004 and 2005 peaks.
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Fixed -
Saulo
Talk to Me
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References
- Make it only two columns. Three forces it for those on smaller screens.
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Fixed -
Saulo
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20:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
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- References are all fine
- Thank you! :) - Saulo Talk to Me 20:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Overall
- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and
verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to
reliable sources): c (
OR):
- a (references):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the
neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by
images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have
fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with
suitable captions):
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have
fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Short article but good, giving time to fix the issues.
- Pass/Fail:
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was move. Arguments regarding the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC don't apply here, as neither article is the primary topic of the title Rumors; they need to be effectively disambiguated regardless. Cúchullain t/ c 19:59, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Rumors (song) → Rumors (Lindsay Lohan song) – There is another more notable Rumors song, Rumors (Timex Social Club song). Relisted. Jenks24 ( talk) 10:15, 4 July 2012 (UTC) Morbidthoughts ( talk) 22:28, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
- Support. Two articles with the same name, so should be disambiguated. Till 09:04, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I see only two articles on a song named "Rumors" and the Wikpedia article on the Lindsay Lohan song has more than twice the traffic as that on the Timex Social Club song (compare them now [2] v [3]). Further, no dab page per WP:TWODABS, but I've created a hatnote on Rumors (song) pointing to Rumors (Timex Social Club song) [4]. -- →gab 24dot grab← 19:40, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose per 24dot. Theoldsparkle ( talk) 14:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support. The Timex Social Club song was a Top Ten Pop and #1 R&B hit in the US, more notable than Lohan song which did not even make the Top 100. Redirect Rumors (song) to Rumor (disambiguation); few people actually type "Rumors (song)". — AjaxSmack 01:23, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC does not apply here; neither of these articles will be the primary topic and moved to Rumors -- getting readers navigated to the article they are most likely seeking from an unqualified title is the purpose of primary topic. So these song articles need to be qualified. If we agree that they need to be qualified, WP:NCM tells us how to do so, and does not rely on the relative usage of the two songs. -- JHunterJ ( talk) 12:46, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.