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There is no mention of "tetration" in this page, even though someone said somewhere else at Wikipedia that he uses the word "tetration" and there is no tetration page at Wikipedia.
Someone put one up recently;
Meltingpot ( talk) 12:39, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
I don't see the point of linking all the novels since by convention, most novels do not get Wikipedia articles. RedWolf 07:21, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
I was somewhat surprised to find no mention of the fact that Rucker seems to have undergone a religious conversion between the third and fourth "ware" book, and that the fourth book doesn't fit together very well with the other three as a result ... 24.22.58.51 11:36, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Insofar as his significant novels are concerned, I think White Light would have to be included--I believe the edition I read was published as part of a series of "significant novels in science fiction" or some such.
What I'm surprised about is that there's no discussion of his mathematical work here, which underlies a lot of his science fiction. My understanding is that it's considered significant. I don't really feel competent to write about it here, though; hopefully someone who knows the field will take a crack at it. Nareek 04:39, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
A scientific background for popular sci-fi authors while certainly not predominate, is not unusual. The most obvious example is Isaac Asimov (biochemistry), but there are many others such as Fred Hoyle (astronomy), Carl Sagan (astronomy), Arthur C. Clarke (math & physics), Larry Niven (mathematics), Jerry Pournelle (statistics), and Michael Crichton (medicine). We could do a Wiki-list as an exercise. -- Blainster 20:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Very distracting - it looks like a mistake. If it's done on purpose for artistic or whatever reasons, the cutline should say so. - DavidWBrooks 15:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
You can use a picture taken by my daughter Georgia Rucker if you like, we'll license it under GFDL. The picture is at [ [1]] Rudyrucker 05:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Because Rudy Rucker is a fiction writer, I wonder if his interview with Gödel was fabricated. Did he really meet and talk to the noted recluse? Lestrade ( talk) 18:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)Lestrade
I want to believe you, but I can't understand how you could be so certain. Only Rudy Rucker, in his own mind, would know the truth. Lestrade ( talk) 13:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)Lestrade
Yes, Lestrade, I did meet Kurt Gödel in his Princeton office in 1972, as described in my book INFINITY AND THE MIND. Though if you don't believe my book, why would you believe my comment! Rudyrucker ( talk) 22:31, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Is saucer wisdom fiction, or non-fiction? the article seems to contain opposing points of view. having skimmed through the book (very briefly) it doens't seem obvious to me. G30ffr3y ( talk) 21:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
SAUCER WISDOM in a transreal novel, that is, it is fiction that is closely linked to autobiographical events of the author's life. In this particular work, I dialled up the level of transrealism very high, which seemed fitting for a book celebrating the coming of the New Millennium (year 2000). You can find out more about the genesis of this book in the writing notes, which can be accessed via the Saucer Wisdom book's website. Rudyrucker ( talk) 22:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Which sources say he writes cyberpunk novels? The Voice of the Wild ( talk) 08:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
The article should include a mention the James Gleick's CHAOS: the Software software that he cowrote for Autodesk, which is downloadable as shareware. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplyIrresistible ( talk • contribs) 06:13, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Whoah, I see a warning that this entry needs references!
(1) A Google Scholar search on "Rudy Rucker" returns academic citations of Rucker's works.
(2) A regular Google search for "Rudy Rucker review" yields general reviews. Rudyrucker ( talk) 23:47, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
I see a warning that I edited this, my article, in the past. I'd like to undo these edits and clean up the record, but I'm not sure how. If I try and remove my old edits, I'm blocked from doing this, as the reversions would conflict with later edits by others. Any advice? Rudyrucker ( talk) 23:49, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Fartherred, for clearing this up. Rudyrucker ( talk) 04:08, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Fartherred, I guess I would however maintain that by some lights I can be considered a notable computer scientist. I shipped three software products, CA Lab, Chaos, and Artificial Life Lab. I was one of earlier professors to teach computer games programmign (this was at SJSU), and I authored an Addison Wesley book on this, "Software Engineering and Computer Games." And finally, I published a tome about the Philosophy of Computer Science (a budding field), this was THE LIFEBOX, THE SEASHELL, AND THE SOUL, now under the imprint of Basic Books. So maybe I am mildly notable. In any case, time will tell. Rudyrucker ( talk) 04:12, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
The no citations template is not needed on the career section since there are now citations. The no citations template is not needed on the works section because each work is its own citation. Fartherred ( talk) 17:37, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
There are two online articles about Rudy Rucker listed as references in [[Rudy Rucker]]. For a third there is ROY CHRISTOPHER's article. These references were the result of casual searches. The template indicates that [[Rudy Rucker]] is likely to be deleted. That won't happen. It is time for the notability template to disappear. Fartherred ( talk) 08:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
So I was surprised to see a "testimonial" section of this supposed encyclopedia article on Rudy Rucker. But now that I see he's influenced the editing of this article (complete with a friend that edits the article too), I'm no longer surprised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.215.34 ( talk) 11:48, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Recently. User:Pburka removed the following pages from Category:American SubGenii.
Rudy Rucker [2] (Mentioned here, here, here and here)
Penn Jillette [3] (Mentioned here and here and here)
Nancy A. Collins [4] (Mentioned here, here and here)
John Shirley [5] (Mentioned here and here)
Bruce Campbell [6] (Mentioned here and here)
Del Close [7] (Mentioned here)
Paul Reubens AKA Pee Wee Herman [8] (Mentioned here and here)
Lon Milo DuQuette [9](Mentioned here)
These removals were perfectly reasonable, because the articles do not mention membership in the COSG, nor are most of the links I list above reliable sources. Because of this, I am putting out a call for citations to reliable sources that establish Church of the SubGenius membership for these and other celebrities. I suspect that a fair count will put the number considerably higher than the number of celebrity Scientologists. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 00:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
As I added this to my to-read list, this bit caught my eye: the new novel features (inter alia) "man-sized telepathic orgy-loving slugs." Can't wait! Review: http://www.locusmag.com/Reviews/2012/10/paul-di-filippo-reviews-rudy-rucker/
Happy reading-- Pete Tillman ( talk) 22:41, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Some notes for material that could be worked into the article. Updated November 7, 2021.
External Link: The Rudy Rucker entry in the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction. http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/rucker_rudy
External Link: Rucker's paintings page. http://wwww.rudyrucker.com/paintings
Personal Life: After the sentence "Thinking he may not be around much longer, this prompted him to write Nested Scrolls, his autobiography." Add the sentence "Fully recovered, he went on to publish six more novels as well."
Career: Rucker runs his own press, Transreal Books, sometimes publishing or republishing his own books. He also published William J. Craddock's early psychedelic novel BE NOT CONTENT. http://www.transrealbooks.com
Career: Rucker has made over 200 paintings since 1999, many of them relating to SF themes or to his novels. He has a website for his paintings and he's had shows at Borderlands Books and Life Bait in San Francisco. The paintings appear in his annually updated art book, Better Worlds.
Bad Link: The link in footnote [131] is bad, and the note referencing this link from the Mathenauts listing should be dropped.
Rudyrucker ( talk) 01:56, 25 January 2013 (UTC) Rudyrucker ( talk) 21:38, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Concerning a flag asking for references to the remark that R's book Infinity and the Mind has been cited in academic literature: See the collection of essays, Infinity: New Research Frontiers, edited by Michael Heller and W. Hugh Woodin, Cambridge U. Press, 2011. Rudyrucker ( talk) 21:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Is Rudy Rucker a philosopher in a sense that justifies referring to him as such in the first line of this article? Has he ever published a peer-reviewed paper or book in philosophy? Has he ever been cited by academic or professional philosophers? If you drop his name in the next meeting of any professional convention or meeting of philosophers, would one in one hundred there recognize his name? I suggest removing the word "philosopher" from that sentence. 2001:470:DF45:FE77:230:48FF:FE70:B86C ( talk) 12:14, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
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There is no mention of "tetration" in this page, even though someone said somewhere else at Wikipedia that he uses the word "tetration" and there is no tetration page at Wikipedia.
Someone put one up recently;
Meltingpot ( talk) 12:39, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
I don't see the point of linking all the novels since by convention, most novels do not get Wikipedia articles. RedWolf 07:21, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)
I was somewhat surprised to find no mention of the fact that Rucker seems to have undergone a religious conversion between the third and fourth "ware" book, and that the fourth book doesn't fit together very well with the other three as a result ... 24.22.58.51 11:36, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Insofar as his significant novels are concerned, I think White Light would have to be included--I believe the edition I read was published as part of a series of "significant novels in science fiction" or some such.
What I'm surprised about is that there's no discussion of his mathematical work here, which underlies a lot of his science fiction. My understanding is that it's considered significant. I don't really feel competent to write about it here, though; hopefully someone who knows the field will take a crack at it. Nareek 04:39, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
A scientific background for popular sci-fi authors while certainly not predominate, is not unusual. The most obvious example is Isaac Asimov (biochemistry), but there are many others such as Fred Hoyle (astronomy), Carl Sagan (astronomy), Arthur C. Clarke (math & physics), Larry Niven (mathematics), Jerry Pournelle (statistics), and Michael Crichton (medicine). We could do a Wiki-list as an exercise. -- Blainster 20:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Very distracting - it looks like a mistake. If it's done on purpose for artistic or whatever reasons, the cutline should say so. - DavidWBrooks 15:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
You can use a picture taken by my daughter Georgia Rucker if you like, we'll license it under GFDL. The picture is at [ [1]] Rudyrucker 05:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Because Rudy Rucker is a fiction writer, I wonder if his interview with Gödel was fabricated. Did he really meet and talk to the noted recluse? Lestrade ( talk) 18:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)Lestrade
I want to believe you, but I can't understand how you could be so certain. Only Rudy Rucker, in his own mind, would know the truth. Lestrade ( talk) 13:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)Lestrade
Yes, Lestrade, I did meet Kurt Gödel in his Princeton office in 1972, as described in my book INFINITY AND THE MIND. Though if you don't believe my book, why would you believe my comment! Rudyrucker ( talk) 22:31, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Is saucer wisdom fiction, or non-fiction? the article seems to contain opposing points of view. having skimmed through the book (very briefly) it doens't seem obvious to me. G30ffr3y ( talk) 21:34, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
SAUCER WISDOM in a transreal novel, that is, it is fiction that is closely linked to autobiographical events of the author's life. In this particular work, I dialled up the level of transrealism very high, which seemed fitting for a book celebrating the coming of the New Millennium (year 2000). You can find out more about the genesis of this book in the writing notes, which can be accessed via the Saucer Wisdom book's website. Rudyrucker ( talk) 22:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Which sources say he writes cyberpunk novels? The Voice of the Wild ( talk) 08:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
The article should include a mention the James Gleick's CHAOS: the Software software that he cowrote for Autodesk, which is downloadable as shareware. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SimplyIrresistible ( talk • contribs) 06:13, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Whoah, I see a warning that this entry needs references!
(1) A Google Scholar search on "Rudy Rucker" returns academic citations of Rucker's works.
(2) A regular Google search for "Rudy Rucker review" yields general reviews. Rudyrucker ( talk) 23:47, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
I see a warning that I edited this, my article, in the past. I'd like to undo these edits and clean up the record, but I'm not sure how. If I try and remove my old edits, I'm blocked from doing this, as the reversions would conflict with later edits by others. Any advice? Rudyrucker ( talk) 23:49, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, Fartherred, for clearing this up. Rudyrucker ( talk) 04:08, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
Fartherred, I guess I would however maintain that by some lights I can be considered a notable computer scientist. I shipped three software products, CA Lab, Chaos, and Artificial Life Lab. I was one of earlier professors to teach computer games programmign (this was at SJSU), and I authored an Addison Wesley book on this, "Software Engineering and Computer Games." And finally, I published a tome about the Philosophy of Computer Science (a budding field), this was THE LIFEBOX, THE SEASHELL, AND THE SOUL, now under the imprint of Basic Books. So maybe I am mildly notable. In any case, time will tell. Rudyrucker ( talk) 04:12, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
The no citations template is not needed on the career section since there are now citations. The no citations template is not needed on the works section because each work is its own citation. Fartherred ( talk) 17:37, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
There are two online articles about Rudy Rucker listed as references in [[Rudy Rucker]]. For a third there is ROY CHRISTOPHER's article. These references were the result of casual searches. The template indicates that [[Rudy Rucker]] is likely to be deleted. That won't happen. It is time for the notability template to disappear. Fartherred ( talk) 08:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
So I was surprised to see a "testimonial" section of this supposed encyclopedia article on Rudy Rucker. But now that I see he's influenced the editing of this article (complete with a friend that edits the article too), I'm no longer surprised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.215.34 ( talk) 11:48, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Recently. User:Pburka removed the following pages from Category:American SubGenii.
Rudy Rucker [2] (Mentioned here, here, here and here)
Penn Jillette [3] (Mentioned here and here and here)
Nancy A. Collins [4] (Mentioned here, here and here)
John Shirley [5] (Mentioned here and here)
Bruce Campbell [6] (Mentioned here and here)
Del Close [7] (Mentioned here)
Paul Reubens AKA Pee Wee Herman [8] (Mentioned here and here)
Lon Milo DuQuette [9](Mentioned here)
These removals were perfectly reasonable, because the articles do not mention membership in the COSG, nor are most of the links I list above reliable sources. Because of this, I am putting out a call for citations to reliable sources that establish Church of the SubGenius membership for these and other celebrities. I suspect that a fair count will put the number considerably higher than the number of celebrity Scientologists. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 00:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
As I added this to my to-read list, this bit caught my eye: the new novel features (inter alia) "man-sized telepathic orgy-loving slugs." Can't wait! Review: http://www.locusmag.com/Reviews/2012/10/paul-di-filippo-reviews-rudy-rucker/
Happy reading-- Pete Tillman ( talk) 22:41, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Some notes for material that could be worked into the article. Updated November 7, 2021.
External Link: The Rudy Rucker entry in the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction. http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/rucker_rudy
External Link: Rucker's paintings page. http://wwww.rudyrucker.com/paintings
Personal Life: After the sentence "Thinking he may not be around much longer, this prompted him to write Nested Scrolls, his autobiography." Add the sentence "Fully recovered, he went on to publish six more novels as well."
Career: Rucker runs his own press, Transreal Books, sometimes publishing or republishing his own books. He also published William J. Craddock's early psychedelic novel BE NOT CONTENT. http://www.transrealbooks.com
Career: Rucker has made over 200 paintings since 1999, many of them relating to SF themes or to his novels. He has a website for his paintings and he's had shows at Borderlands Books and Life Bait in San Francisco. The paintings appear in his annually updated art book, Better Worlds.
Bad Link: The link in footnote [131] is bad, and the note referencing this link from the Mathenauts listing should be dropped.
Rudyrucker ( talk) 01:56, 25 January 2013 (UTC) Rudyrucker ( talk) 21:38, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Concerning a flag asking for references to the remark that R's book Infinity and the Mind has been cited in academic literature: See the collection of essays, Infinity: New Research Frontiers, edited by Michael Heller and W. Hugh Woodin, Cambridge U. Press, 2011. Rudyrucker ( talk) 21:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Is Rudy Rucker a philosopher in a sense that justifies referring to him as such in the first line of this article? Has he ever published a peer-reviewed paper or book in philosophy? Has he ever been cited by academic or professional philosophers? If you drop his name in the next meeting of any professional convention or meeting of philosophers, would one in one hundred there recognize his name? I suggest removing the word "philosopher" from that sentence. 2001:470:DF45:FE77:230:48FF:FE70:B86C ( talk) 12:14, 27 April 2016 (UTC)