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Any reason why there is nothing in here about her husband (possibly ex) in the background? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.78.233.211 ( talk) 01:31, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Reprinted is an email I received:
Accordingly, I am removing the autobiography tag from the page. — C.Fred ( talk) 23:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
At last I have got round to creating a less confusing account name. I am now going to deleting the Rozsavage account so that everything from now on will appear under my own name. Sorry for the confusion. Geoff2DoThat 09:35, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
In the 'First Leg' section :
...she completed the first leg by finishing the Atlantic Rowing Race as the only sole female competitor...
It seems to me to say she is the only sole competitor is redundant. Maybe the writer meant to say she was the only solo female... —Preceding unsigned comment added by PerroPerdido ( talk • contribs) 16:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
There's a tendency with biographies of people who have achieved something, apparently against the odds, to highlight the hardships and gloss over the little details which might have placed them for success - not to diminish Roz's acheivment. Roz said in an interview with the Daily Telegraph that she thought the race had cost about £70,000, that she felt she had got about £10,000 cash sponsorship, but that most of the funding had come from her divorce settlement - but that fact rarely gets a mention in articles about Roz. In fact little was made of it even in the Telegraph article. It is relevant. The average person simply could not finance an adventure like Roz's even with twice the sponsorship. Hard work and dedication are fine, but luck and money are also often an essential component in any venture.
Roz has asked me to keep an eye on "her" entry, to add factual information as events occur, and to watch fo errors that may creep in. My sources include her website and personal knowledge of her activities. When she states an intention publicly in her website, that is likely to be the only source for a citation here and it seems impractical to cite a specific blog entry which may,over time, become hard to find.
The pictures currently posted (19 September 2008) were placed by a supporter in good faith. However, they do not illustrate the entry as well as the preferred one which will show Roz rowing past Diamond Head in Hawaii.
I understand that no-one "owns" anything in the Wikipedia but it seems sensible to require accuracy and specificity. John C Kay ( talk) 20:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Point taken. Researching citations is what I'm doing now. It's interesting that the question of citations arose only today after I had expressed difficulties with trying to change the picture. John C Kay ( talk) 22:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Damn hard to track down some citations, especially from pre-internet years! John C Kay ( talk) 00:17, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
At last I have been able to find time to do the citations which justify the stuff in Roz's page. I confess to knowing the lady but I have for over 50 years been a writer (by profession) of technical material of various sorts and well aware of the importance of verification. I think it would be reasonable, now, to remove the "conflict of interest" warning which exists only because I was open about my involvement. John C Kay ( talk) 05:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
I've removed some superfluous "Further Reading" items and corrected one that was mis-directed. Those that remain add colour to the main text. I have explained the Wikipedia philosophy to Ms. Savage and pointed out that I can only watch for any inaccuracies that might creep in and add new (and citationable) materal. I'm not even sure that I qualify as a "major contributor"; I did not create the entry and have made only a few additions to reflect actual events. John C Kay ( talk) 19:26, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I removed the COI tag after reviewing the article. The information presented is well-cited and factual. The more external links that can be used to "prove" information the less-likely it will get tagged as COI. -- Petercorless ( talk) 15:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Information about her 10 day failed 2007 Pacific attempt and subsequent USCG helicopter rescue should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.229.183 ( talk) 03:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC) Sadly, on her website she has posts from every year from 2005 to present, with the exception of 2007 where there are none. I don't see why her site or this site should leave out the failure, because I see nothing to be ashamed about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.229.183 ( talk) 03:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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Any reason why there is nothing in here about her husband (possibly ex) in the background? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.78.233.211 ( talk) 01:31, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Reprinted is an email I received:
Accordingly, I am removing the autobiography tag from the page. — C.Fred ( talk) 23:53, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
At last I have got round to creating a less confusing account name. I am now going to deleting the Rozsavage account so that everything from now on will appear under my own name. Sorry for the confusion. Geoff2DoThat 09:35, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
In the 'First Leg' section :
...she completed the first leg by finishing the Atlantic Rowing Race as the only sole female competitor...
It seems to me to say she is the only sole competitor is redundant. Maybe the writer meant to say she was the only solo female... —Preceding unsigned comment added by PerroPerdido ( talk • contribs) 16:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
There's a tendency with biographies of people who have achieved something, apparently against the odds, to highlight the hardships and gloss over the little details which might have placed them for success - not to diminish Roz's acheivment. Roz said in an interview with the Daily Telegraph that she thought the race had cost about £70,000, that she felt she had got about £10,000 cash sponsorship, but that most of the funding had come from her divorce settlement - but that fact rarely gets a mention in articles about Roz. In fact little was made of it even in the Telegraph article. It is relevant. The average person simply could not finance an adventure like Roz's even with twice the sponsorship. Hard work and dedication are fine, but luck and money are also often an essential component in any venture.
Roz has asked me to keep an eye on "her" entry, to add factual information as events occur, and to watch fo errors that may creep in. My sources include her website and personal knowledge of her activities. When she states an intention publicly in her website, that is likely to be the only source for a citation here and it seems impractical to cite a specific blog entry which may,over time, become hard to find.
The pictures currently posted (19 September 2008) were placed by a supporter in good faith. However, they do not illustrate the entry as well as the preferred one which will show Roz rowing past Diamond Head in Hawaii.
I understand that no-one "owns" anything in the Wikipedia but it seems sensible to require accuracy and specificity. John C Kay ( talk) 20:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Point taken. Researching citations is what I'm doing now. It's interesting that the question of citations arose only today after I had expressed difficulties with trying to change the picture. John C Kay ( talk) 22:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Damn hard to track down some citations, especially from pre-internet years! John C Kay ( talk) 00:17, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
At last I have been able to find time to do the citations which justify the stuff in Roz's page. I confess to knowing the lady but I have for over 50 years been a writer (by profession) of technical material of various sorts and well aware of the importance of verification. I think it would be reasonable, now, to remove the "conflict of interest" warning which exists only because I was open about my involvement. John C Kay ( talk) 05:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
I've removed some superfluous "Further Reading" items and corrected one that was mis-directed. Those that remain add colour to the main text. I have explained the Wikipedia philosophy to Ms. Savage and pointed out that I can only watch for any inaccuracies that might creep in and add new (and citationable) materal. I'm not even sure that I qualify as a "major contributor"; I did not create the entry and have made only a few additions to reflect actual events. John C Kay ( talk) 19:26, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I removed the COI tag after reviewing the article. The information presented is well-cited and factual. The more external links that can be used to "prove" information the less-likely it will get tagged as COI. -- Petercorless ( talk) 15:45, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Information about her 10 day failed 2007 Pacific attempt and subsequent USCG helicopter rescue should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.229.183 ( talk) 03:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC) Sadly, on her website she has posts from every year from 2005 to present, with the exception of 2007 where there are none. I don't see why her site or this site should leave out the failure, because I see nothing to be ashamed about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.109.229.183 ( talk) 03:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)