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The population figure of 100,000 sounds very excessive... as far as I can remember, it's closer to 60,000. Does anyone know of a good UK database for population statistics?
Also, the section of famous inhabitants seems to me a very silly idea, unless it's limited to famous people of the past. If anything it makes the town look more irrelevant than it actually is - no page on any large city would list present-day celebrity residents. Palefire 03:33, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)
In terms of population, I think that must be for the whole district covered by the Borough Council. This is a very confusing statistic when compared to the Sevenoaks page, for instance, that quotes its population as 18,000, which could only cover the very centre of the town itself - with suburbs taken into account, these towns are similar sizes. Some standardisation is needed.
Shoppers are best advised to choose which part of the town they are most interested in (the old Pantiles and "Village" area to the south of the town, or the newer area around the Victoria Shopping Centre) before they go, as each area is separated and is thus not easy to walk between. This is subjective, I find the walk between these two areas very pleasant and takes all of 10 minutes. MilkmanDan 12:00, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
Not sure if MilkmanDan's comments above are potentially misleading. Whilst I agree that it can take 10 minutes to walk between the new (clone town) part of Tunbridge Wells and the older High Street/Chapel Place/Pantiles end of town, the comment makes it sound like there's nothing in between. The route between the two areas, Mount Pleasant Road is still a major shopping area leading to the town' railway station which is in the middle of the two areas. There is not really any physical distinction between the areas (other than a hill), it is more of a linear town from Royal Victoria Place all the way down the hill to the Pantiles. The two areas are not seperated. -- JezzBrookes 12:20, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I do not want to diminish the primary thrust of MJD's comments regarding bourgeois T Wells vs social deprivation in certain parts - High Brooms springs to mind. However I would like to see evidence of high truancy, drug taking and crime rates compared with other areas even in Kent before the statements are made so categorically. My understanding is that truancy rates vary from virtually zero at the top end to ca 2.5 times the national average at T Well's "sink" school. Drug dealing is anecdotaly alleged to be the highest in the south east between London and the coast but I understand the police and social services to claim there is no greater problem here than in any otehr comparable town. The same is true for crime. See http://www.tunbridgewells.gov.uk/MASmedia_SB/viewSite?requestType=viewPage&siteId=232&pageId=4407 for more information. -- Silver149 5 July 2005 08:38 (UTC)
The most recent mod has changed a few words from British to American spelling. Since this is an article about a British town, they should have been left as-is.
Since the town is commonly known as Tunbridge Wells, should that not be this article's name under the WP naming conventions (use common name)? -- Necrothesp 13:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
The statement "To this day, Royal Tunbridge Wells is one of only two towns in England to be granted [the title Royal], the other being Royal Leamington Spa." is surely wrong. Lyme Regis? Bognor Regis? Royal Borough of Windsor & Maidenhead?
I can't see how singling "Pomeroi" out (and providing a link to its website as a reference!) or indeed naming certain other shops over others can be seen as anything but advertising... 192.93.164.20 15:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC) I agree-Can we keep the advertising on a leash please-lets just stick to facts and fiqures,not personal opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bladerunner63 ( talk • contribs) 19:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I have added a section on parks, with each park being given its own sub-heading. This is with the intension of developing each parks content, so the sections get bigger. At the moment they look a little short and therefore maybe not suited to subheadings, but eventually i intend to add more so bullet points (or similar would be unsuitable). I also intend to develop an independent article on Dunorlan Park as I is of such historical importance and such a popular location in the town. It would be good to develop more in the Commons and Wellington Rocks too. McKDandy 19:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Are the crime rate figures for the district as whole, not for the town? These figures diffe, and are given in a different format - although for another year? Peter Shearan ( talk) 07:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the paragraphs on industrial estates and employers, partly because they didn't seem to fit in a "Geography" section, partly because they don't seem to be particularly relevant to the article - it's not as though Tunbridge Wells is known for any of those employers, and I think the location of industrial estates is more suited to the Yellow Pages than to an encyclopaedia (though I concede that could be a matter of opinion), and partly because the Pantiles and the old Cinema aren't actually industrial estates. Simon 78.149.147.223 ( talk) 16:29, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Out of interest I wonder why my blog, http://anke.blogs.com, is always removed from the External Links no matter who inserts it. Bear with me here. Firstly it is not a personal blog anymore but the largest online repository of the history and culture of Tunbridge Wells, and more significantly contains many historic articles about Tunbridge Wells that just do not exist anywhere else online. I know it's called a blog but it's evolved into more than that. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankehuber ( talk • contribs) 08:42, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
The External Links section is burgeoning to say the least - do we really think the article for Tunbridge Wells can justify having more external links than the article for London?! - and it reads like a combination of tourist office and church notice board. I pared it back to what I considered were the bare bones, but User:Ankehuber reinstated the links (including one to a personal blog run by someone called "Anke"...). When I added information about the Tunbridge Wells Half Marathon I linked to the Tunbridge Wells Harriers website in the main body of the text; surely this is preferable to a list of 18 external links (some to entities that aren't even mentioned in the article). Remember, Wikipedia is not a repository of links.
It isn't really appropriate to include an external link to a church, a shopping centre and someone's blog - the guidelines state that links to blogs, commercial websites and links intended mainly to promote a website should all be avoided. With this in mind I have reverted to the more streamlined list of links.
Sjc196 ( talk) 09:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I have merged the Amenities section with the rest of the article because, although it had some good information, it seemed more like a tourist brochure than an encyclopaedia (see related criticism of the TW article at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Kent/To_Do) and was inconsistent with the approach taken on other Kent articles such as Canterbury and Maidstone.
Sjc196 ( talk) 10:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I think this article now seems to meet the criteria to be considered a Good Article - see Wikipedia:Good_article_criteria. I don't know the procedure - do we just add it to the list for consideration, or is there more to it than that?
Sjc196 ( talk) 11:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
The two GA reviews for this article can be found at Talk:Royal Tunbridge Wells/GA1 and Talk:Royal Tunbridge Wells/GA2. - epicAdam( talk) 19:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Up to date information on the chalybeate spring in Tunbridge Wells is completely absent from the article on Tunbridge Wells.
Is it still used? Does it still exist? Where is it? Does "Well" in Tunbridge "Wells" refer to the spring? Is there more than one spring outlet? Is there a building over the spring? A picture of the building? Inside the building? Can we have a picture of the water the spring produces? Who manages the spring? Is it still considered to have healing properties? What is the extent of "spa" or "resort" businesses/facilities that depend on the spring's existence?
GGBiscuit ( talk) 19:13, 7 April 2012 (UTC) (New Zealand)
{{geodata-check}}
The following coordinate fixes are needed for Royal Tunbridge Wells
Coordinates are currently given as:
51° 13′ 32″ N, 0° 15′ 52″ E 51.225556, 0.264444
These coordinates are not correct. Click on Google Maps link to see why. Instead of taking one to the centre of Royal Tunbridge Wells, one ends up in a field south of Horn's Lodge Lane, about 250 metres west south west of Stacey's Wood, about 12 km north of the centre of Royal Tunbridge Wells
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The correct (or more correct at least) coordinates would seem to be: loc: 51.1289° N, 0.2608° E. I obtained these values simply by typing "latitude and longitude royal tunbridge wells UK" into Google. The first result gave me loc: 51.1289° N, 0.2608° E which takes one to the centre of Tunbridge Wells as opposed to the middle of a field 12 km to its north. 124.185.15.244 ( talk) 10:51, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
I apologize, I'm a newbie. I added citation #58 about Tunbridge Wells being mentioned in Fanny Burney's novel, Camilla. Since adding this, I have learned the book's publication date (1796) but cannot find how to add that to the citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathsuds ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
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"Tummy Tunny Wells" is a slang term and as I said in the edit summary the only people that use it'are uneducated chavs and the cite is simply a transcript of chavs having a conversation ....., I don't believe anyone has ever called it "Tummy Wells" and are unlikely to ever do so so it's pointless mentioning it IMHO. –
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People call it 'Tunny Wells' (NOT TuMMy Wells). I have cited many sources for this. Just because you don't agree with it does not make it wrong. May I point out that 'Tunbridge Wells' is also slang - a shortening of Royal Tunbridge Wells. 77.221.165.120 ( talk) 00:19, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
It deserves a mention in the intro, perhaps by saying 'informally called Tunny Wells'. It is a shortening of Tunbridge Wells that many many people use for convenience. Conversely, saying "The Shithole of Medway" is not a shortening of Chatham, and is clearly derogatory. Read "Country Life" Volume 139, page 656 (on Google Books). The abbreviation has been in use since at least the 60s! Many many people say 'Tunny Wells', and Wikipedia should not be the preserve of the upper-class toffs who can't accept that many other people use a different name for the town. 77.221.165.120 ( talk) 02:33, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
To say it is rarely used is ridiculous. It is used very frequently among many people within the town - or do their opinions mean nothing to you? 31.221.51.61 ( talk) 20:14, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
As a Tunbridge Wells resident, I can say that I have heard this countless times! I have never seen such a ridiculous debate. Here are some sources below and I could cite many more...
Reliable published books
1) Rambles in Sussex (1922), Frederick Gaspard Brabant, Page 34
2) The Tonbridge Circular Walk (2015), Deborah Cole, Page 103
3) Wellspring: A Portrait in Verse of Royal Tunbridge Wells (1995), Colin Aston, Page 42
4) By Royal Appointment: Why Do They Call it Royal Tunbridge Wells? (2009), Chris Jones, Page 82
5) Villages Around Old Maidstone (1980), Irene Hales, Page 13
Informal sites http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&t=121501&mid=0&nmt=Spotted+in+and+around+Tunbridge+Wells http://www.4networking.biz/Forum/ViewTopic/98642 https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/2fgjmg/council_flat_swap_from_tunny_wells_to_glasgow/ http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186315-d2700540-r151309843-Giggling_Squid-Royal_Tunbridge_Wells_Kent_England.html http://www.mapmyrun.com/gb/royal-tunbridge-wells-eng/tunny-wells-10k-route-51003950 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzuwD_6b4ys http://tunnywell.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/wild-woods-of-tunny-wells.html http://heyevent.uk/event/4vzt4facpbroga/phoebe-katis-headline-the-pheasantry-pizza-express-161215 http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum/11plus/viewtopic.php?t=13657&p=190252 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ridgewaye-secondary-tunny-wells/110597155628157 https://twitter.com/lucywestbrooke/status/264281770214686720 http://www.kentonline.co.uk/tunbridge-wells/news/poundland-to-open-in-tunbridge-44336/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sweet-Home-Tunny-Wells/131898033565940 http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186315-d720495-r305317844-Sankey_s-Royal_Tunbridge_Wells_Kent_England.html TheEditorUK2015 ( talk) 12:39, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
The user has provided many books and citations, and said he could provide more. Before continually removing his edits it would be respectful to follow the process of questioning it further with him and allowing him the opportunity to provide satisfactory response to your concerns. 80.229.35.173 ( talk) 06:56, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
TheEditor has provided notable books discussing the topic of Kent, Tunbridge Wells and the surrounding counties. I find the term 'Tunny Wells' to be distasteful but I must concede that it is frequently used by many familiar with the town. Please can you elucidate on the reasons you consider these printed publications to be unreliable? CountyOfKent ( talk) 13:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Davey2010 - My concern is that you have not provided any constructive critique of the printed publications cited by TheEditor. I don't find it a pleasant name for the town, however we cannot ignore the evolution of language. I expect the first use of 'Tunbridge' was considered a travesty by some people in it's day. CountyOfKent ( talk) 13:27, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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Should the article include the slang term "Tunny Wells" ? (I personally don't think it should but as we're not reaching any agreements above I think it's best to seek opinions from outsiders), Thanks, – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 13:11, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
I would like to remind you that the OP cited several reliable published works (below), and offered to provide more:
1) Rambles in Sussex (1922), Frederick Gaspard Brabant, Page 34
2) The Tonbridge Circular Walk (2015), Deborah Cole, Page 103
3) Wellspring: A Portrait in Verse of Royal Tunbridge Wells (1995), Colin Aston, Page 42
4) By Royal Appointment: Why Do They Call it Royal Tunbridge Wells? (2009), Chris Jones, Page 82
5) Villages Around Old Maidstone (1980), Irene Hales, Page 13
CountyOfKent ( talk) 13:44, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
A simple search on Google will show you the ISBN numbers - or the OP can provide them. CountyOfKent ( talk) 13:47, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
@TheEditorUK2015 please provide ISBN numbers CountyOfKent ( talk) 15:19, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
ISBNs....
1) Rambles in Sussex (1922), Frederick Gaspard Brabant, Page 34 = 9781275385931
2) The Tonbridge Circular Walk (2015), Deborah Cole, Page 103 = 9781908616357
3) Wellspring: A Portrait in Verse of Royal Tunbridge Wells (1995), Colin Aston, Page 42 = 9780952518716
4) By Royal Appointment: Why Do They Call it Royal Tunbridge Wells? (2009), Chris Jones, Page 82 =9780956094414
5) Villages Around Old Maidstone (1980), Irene Hales, Page 13 = 9780905270234
TheEditorUK2015 ( talk) 20:48, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Turning to a more targeted resource, the British Newspaper Archive finds zero results for the exact expression (caveat: though it searches about 13 million newspaper pages, few are after about 1955). A search of The Guardian finds one result, and it's another where it's from user commentary than in the article itself. To give that lack some context, a contrasting search for "Tunbridge Wells" returns about 116,000 results at The Guardian. Nothing at The Times either.
In sum, it does appear there is informal usage, but so few – including assuming the five sources put forward above include rare mentions – in reliable sources, that it would be undue weight to include it as an alternate title. It's a name, but apparently not a "significant alternative..." one.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 23:33, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Newspapers generally use a more formal terminology when explaining anything. For example..they won't say it's 'pissing it down' outside, because even though many people use that expression to describe rainy weather, in general a printed newspaper will explain the weather in a more formal manner. The fact that many people in forums and quoted within news articles use the name "tunny wells" shows that many people refer to the town in this way. For a word or place name to be commonly used does not necessitate that newspapers and articles use it, just that people can be demonstrated to be using it a lot. As has been shown repeatedly above, the name Tunny Wells is being used countless times throughout many sources. CountyOfKent ( talk) 13:48, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
I disagree with this - the OP provided quite a few reliable sources. Five published books on the topic of Tunbridge Wells (and he offered to provide more sources). How can you get any more relevant or reliable than that? I have not seen anyone respond directly to these references in any meaningful way 80.231.171.215 ( talk) 16:05, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
I can see the overwhelming consensus is that we should keep Tunny Wells in the article. I'll leave this for a few hours and then close the request for opinions. TheEditorUK2015 ( talk) 09:19, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
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Toponym should have it's own standalone section at the top of the article because it defines the placename, which everything in this article is rooted to. Without a name it is nowhere. Toponym shouldn't be a subsection in the history section because the name of the town has already been used in the aforementioned section. Toponym should be the first section in the main body of the article due its singular importance. Currently positioning is like putting the cart before the horse. 150.143.66.222 ( talk) 13:33, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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Twenty-first century On the 6th of May 2023, the Chalybeate Spring Well was reopened by local businessman Samuel Danby [1] at the coronation of Charles III and his wife, Camilla. [2] The site also includes a QR_code animated tour guide around Tunbridge Wells produced by Quirky Motion, explaining the town's history and connection to the Royal Spring. (3)
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Under the governance section, in the paragraph beginning "The Member of Parliament (MP) for Tunbridge Wells is the Conservative Greg Clark,[27] whose majority at the 2017 election was 16,465.[28] In September 2019, Clark was one of 21 Conservative MP's to have the whip removed, after failing to back the Government, in keeping the option of a No-deal Brexit on the negotiating table."
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The population figure of 100,000 sounds very excessive... as far as I can remember, it's closer to 60,000. Does anyone know of a good UK database for population statistics?
Also, the section of famous inhabitants seems to me a very silly idea, unless it's limited to famous people of the past. If anything it makes the town look more irrelevant than it actually is - no page on any large city would list present-day celebrity residents. Palefire 03:33, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)
In terms of population, I think that must be for the whole district covered by the Borough Council. This is a very confusing statistic when compared to the Sevenoaks page, for instance, that quotes its population as 18,000, which could only cover the very centre of the town itself - with suburbs taken into account, these towns are similar sizes. Some standardisation is needed.
Shoppers are best advised to choose which part of the town they are most interested in (the old Pantiles and "Village" area to the south of the town, or the newer area around the Victoria Shopping Centre) before they go, as each area is separated and is thus not easy to walk between. This is subjective, I find the walk between these two areas very pleasant and takes all of 10 minutes. MilkmanDan 12:00, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
Not sure if MilkmanDan's comments above are potentially misleading. Whilst I agree that it can take 10 minutes to walk between the new (clone town) part of Tunbridge Wells and the older High Street/Chapel Place/Pantiles end of town, the comment makes it sound like there's nothing in between. The route between the two areas, Mount Pleasant Road is still a major shopping area leading to the town' railway station which is in the middle of the two areas. There is not really any physical distinction between the areas (other than a hill), it is more of a linear town from Royal Victoria Place all the way down the hill to the Pantiles. The two areas are not seperated. -- JezzBrookes 12:20, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I do not want to diminish the primary thrust of MJD's comments regarding bourgeois T Wells vs social deprivation in certain parts - High Brooms springs to mind. However I would like to see evidence of high truancy, drug taking and crime rates compared with other areas even in Kent before the statements are made so categorically. My understanding is that truancy rates vary from virtually zero at the top end to ca 2.5 times the national average at T Well's "sink" school. Drug dealing is anecdotaly alleged to be the highest in the south east between London and the coast but I understand the police and social services to claim there is no greater problem here than in any otehr comparable town. The same is true for crime. See http://www.tunbridgewells.gov.uk/MASmedia_SB/viewSite?requestType=viewPage&siteId=232&pageId=4407 for more information. -- Silver149 5 July 2005 08:38 (UTC)
The most recent mod has changed a few words from British to American spelling. Since this is an article about a British town, they should have been left as-is.
Since the town is commonly known as Tunbridge Wells, should that not be this article's name under the WP naming conventions (use common name)? -- Necrothesp 13:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
The statement "To this day, Royal Tunbridge Wells is one of only two towns in England to be granted [the title Royal], the other being Royal Leamington Spa." is surely wrong. Lyme Regis? Bognor Regis? Royal Borough of Windsor & Maidenhead?
I can't see how singling "Pomeroi" out (and providing a link to its website as a reference!) or indeed naming certain other shops over others can be seen as anything but advertising... 192.93.164.20 15:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC) I agree-Can we keep the advertising on a leash please-lets just stick to facts and fiqures,not personal opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bladerunner63 ( talk • contribs) 19:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I have added a section on parks, with each park being given its own sub-heading. This is with the intension of developing each parks content, so the sections get bigger. At the moment they look a little short and therefore maybe not suited to subheadings, but eventually i intend to add more so bullet points (or similar would be unsuitable). I also intend to develop an independent article on Dunorlan Park as I is of such historical importance and such a popular location in the town. It would be good to develop more in the Commons and Wellington Rocks too. McKDandy 19:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Are the crime rate figures for the district as whole, not for the town? These figures diffe, and are given in a different format - although for another year? Peter Shearan ( talk) 07:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the paragraphs on industrial estates and employers, partly because they didn't seem to fit in a "Geography" section, partly because they don't seem to be particularly relevant to the article - it's not as though Tunbridge Wells is known for any of those employers, and I think the location of industrial estates is more suited to the Yellow Pages than to an encyclopaedia (though I concede that could be a matter of opinion), and partly because the Pantiles and the old Cinema aren't actually industrial estates. Simon 78.149.147.223 ( talk) 16:29, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Out of interest I wonder why my blog, http://anke.blogs.com, is always removed from the External Links no matter who inserts it. Bear with me here. Firstly it is not a personal blog anymore but the largest online repository of the history and culture of Tunbridge Wells, and more significantly contains many historic articles about Tunbridge Wells that just do not exist anywhere else online. I know it's called a blog but it's evolved into more than that. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankehuber ( talk • contribs) 08:42, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
The External Links section is burgeoning to say the least - do we really think the article for Tunbridge Wells can justify having more external links than the article for London?! - and it reads like a combination of tourist office and church notice board. I pared it back to what I considered were the bare bones, but User:Ankehuber reinstated the links (including one to a personal blog run by someone called "Anke"...). When I added information about the Tunbridge Wells Half Marathon I linked to the Tunbridge Wells Harriers website in the main body of the text; surely this is preferable to a list of 18 external links (some to entities that aren't even mentioned in the article). Remember, Wikipedia is not a repository of links.
It isn't really appropriate to include an external link to a church, a shopping centre and someone's blog - the guidelines state that links to blogs, commercial websites and links intended mainly to promote a website should all be avoided. With this in mind I have reverted to the more streamlined list of links.
Sjc196 ( talk) 09:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I have merged the Amenities section with the rest of the article because, although it had some good information, it seemed more like a tourist brochure than an encyclopaedia (see related criticism of the TW article at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Kent/To_Do) and was inconsistent with the approach taken on other Kent articles such as Canterbury and Maidstone.
Sjc196 ( talk) 10:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
I think this article now seems to meet the criteria to be considered a Good Article - see Wikipedia:Good_article_criteria. I don't know the procedure - do we just add it to the list for consideration, or is there more to it than that?
Sjc196 ( talk) 11:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
The two GA reviews for this article can be found at Talk:Royal Tunbridge Wells/GA1 and Talk:Royal Tunbridge Wells/GA2. - epicAdam( talk) 19:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Up to date information on the chalybeate spring in Tunbridge Wells is completely absent from the article on Tunbridge Wells.
Is it still used? Does it still exist? Where is it? Does "Well" in Tunbridge "Wells" refer to the spring? Is there more than one spring outlet? Is there a building over the spring? A picture of the building? Inside the building? Can we have a picture of the water the spring produces? Who manages the spring? Is it still considered to have healing properties? What is the extent of "spa" or "resort" businesses/facilities that depend on the spring's existence?
GGBiscuit ( talk) 19:13, 7 April 2012 (UTC) (New Zealand)
{{geodata-check}}
The following coordinate fixes are needed for Royal Tunbridge Wells
Coordinates are currently given as:
51° 13′ 32″ N, 0° 15′ 52″ E 51.225556, 0.264444
These coordinates are not correct. Click on Google Maps link to see why. Instead of taking one to the centre of Royal Tunbridge Wells, one ends up in a field south of Horn's Lodge Lane, about 250 metres west south west of Stacey's Wood, about 12 km north of the centre of Royal Tunbridge Wells
—{{subst: 124.185.15.244 ( talk) 10:30, 25 December 2013 (UTC)}}
The correct (or more correct at least) coordinates would seem to be: loc: 51.1289° N, 0.2608° E. I obtained these values simply by typing "latitude and longitude royal tunbridge wells UK" into Google. The first result gave me loc: 51.1289° N, 0.2608° E which takes one to the centre of Tunbridge Wells as opposed to the middle of a field 12 km to its north. 124.185.15.244 ( talk) 10:51, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
I apologize, I'm a newbie. I added citation #58 about Tunbridge Wells being mentioned in Fanny Burney's novel, Camilla. Since adding this, I have learned the book's publication date (1796) but cannot find how to add that to the citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mathsuds ( talk • contribs) 14:53, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
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"Tummy Tunny Wells" is a slang term and as I said in the edit summary the only people that use it'are uneducated chavs and the cite is simply a transcript of chavs having a conversation ....., I don't believe anyone has ever called it "Tummy Wells" and are unlikely to ever do so so it's pointless mentioning it IMHO. –
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Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 22:02, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
People call it 'Tunny Wells' (NOT TuMMy Wells). I have cited many sources for this. Just because you don't agree with it does not make it wrong. May I point out that 'Tunbridge Wells' is also slang - a shortening of Royal Tunbridge Wells. 77.221.165.120 ( talk) 00:19, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
It deserves a mention in the intro, perhaps by saying 'informally called Tunny Wells'. It is a shortening of Tunbridge Wells that many many people use for convenience. Conversely, saying "The Shithole of Medway" is not a shortening of Chatham, and is clearly derogatory. Read "Country Life" Volume 139, page 656 (on Google Books). The abbreviation has been in use since at least the 60s! Many many people say 'Tunny Wells', and Wikipedia should not be the preserve of the upper-class toffs who can't accept that many other people use a different name for the town. 77.221.165.120 ( talk) 02:33, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
To say it is rarely used is ridiculous. It is used very frequently among many people within the town - or do their opinions mean nothing to you? 31.221.51.61 ( talk) 20:14, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
As a Tunbridge Wells resident, I can say that I have heard this countless times! I have never seen such a ridiculous debate. Here are some sources below and I could cite many more...
Reliable published books
1) Rambles in Sussex (1922), Frederick Gaspard Brabant, Page 34
2) The Tonbridge Circular Walk (2015), Deborah Cole, Page 103
3) Wellspring: A Portrait in Verse of Royal Tunbridge Wells (1995), Colin Aston, Page 42
4) By Royal Appointment: Why Do They Call it Royal Tunbridge Wells? (2009), Chris Jones, Page 82
5) Villages Around Old Maidstone (1980), Irene Hales, Page 13
Informal sites http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing//topic.asp?h=0&t=121501&mid=0&nmt=Spotted+in+and+around+Tunbridge+Wells http://www.4networking.biz/Forum/ViewTopic/98642 https://www.reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/2fgjmg/council_flat_swap_from_tunny_wells_to_glasgow/ http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186315-d2700540-r151309843-Giggling_Squid-Royal_Tunbridge_Wells_Kent_England.html http://www.mapmyrun.com/gb/royal-tunbridge-wells-eng/tunny-wells-10k-route-51003950 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzuwD_6b4ys http://tunnywell.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/wild-woods-of-tunny-wells.html http://heyevent.uk/event/4vzt4facpbroga/phoebe-katis-headline-the-pheasantry-pizza-express-161215 http://www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/forum/11plus/viewtopic.php?t=13657&p=190252 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ridgewaye-secondary-tunny-wells/110597155628157 https://twitter.com/lucywestbrooke/status/264281770214686720 http://www.kentonline.co.uk/tunbridge-wells/news/poundland-to-open-in-tunbridge-44336/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sweet-Home-Tunny-Wells/131898033565940 http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g186315-d720495-r305317844-Sankey_s-Royal_Tunbridge_Wells_Kent_England.html TheEditorUK2015 ( talk) 12:39, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
The user has provided many books and citations, and said he could provide more. Before continually removing his edits it would be respectful to follow the process of questioning it further with him and allowing him the opportunity to provide satisfactory response to your concerns. 80.229.35.173 ( talk) 06:56, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
TheEditor has provided notable books discussing the topic of Kent, Tunbridge Wells and the surrounding counties. I find the term 'Tunny Wells' to be distasteful but I must concede that it is frequently used by many familiar with the town. Please can you elucidate on the reasons you consider these printed publications to be unreliable? CountyOfKent ( talk) 13:02, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Davey2010 - My concern is that you have not provided any constructive critique of the printed publications cited by TheEditor. I don't find it a pleasant name for the town, however we cannot ignore the evolution of language. I expect the first use of 'Tunbridge' was considered a travesty by some people in it's day. CountyOfKent ( talk) 13:27, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
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Should the article include the slang term "Tunny Wells" ? (I personally don't think it should but as we're not reaching any agreements above I think it's best to seek opinions from outsiders), Thanks, – Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 13:11, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
I would like to remind you that the OP cited several reliable published works (below), and offered to provide more:
1) Rambles in Sussex (1922), Frederick Gaspard Brabant, Page 34
2) The Tonbridge Circular Walk (2015), Deborah Cole, Page 103
3) Wellspring: A Portrait in Verse of Royal Tunbridge Wells (1995), Colin Aston, Page 42
4) By Royal Appointment: Why Do They Call it Royal Tunbridge Wells? (2009), Chris Jones, Page 82
5) Villages Around Old Maidstone (1980), Irene Hales, Page 13
CountyOfKent ( talk) 13:44, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
A simple search on Google will show you the ISBN numbers - or the OP can provide them. CountyOfKent ( talk) 13:47, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
@TheEditorUK2015 please provide ISBN numbers CountyOfKent ( talk) 15:19, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
ISBNs....
1) Rambles in Sussex (1922), Frederick Gaspard Brabant, Page 34 = 9781275385931
2) The Tonbridge Circular Walk (2015), Deborah Cole, Page 103 = 9781908616357
3) Wellspring: A Portrait in Verse of Royal Tunbridge Wells (1995), Colin Aston, Page 42 = 9780952518716
4) By Royal Appointment: Why Do They Call it Royal Tunbridge Wells? (2009), Chris Jones, Page 82 =9780956094414
5) Villages Around Old Maidstone (1980), Irene Hales, Page 13 = 9780905270234
TheEditorUK2015 ( talk) 20:48, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Turning to a more targeted resource, the British Newspaper Archive finds zero results for the exact expression (caveat: though it searches about 13 million newspaper pages, few are after about 1955). A search of The Guardian finds one result, and it's another where it's from user commentary than in the article itself. To give that lack some context, a contrasting search for "Tunbridge Wells" returns about 116,000 results at The Guardian. Nothing at The Times either.
In sum, it does appear there is informal usage, but so few – including assuming the five sources put forward above include rare mentions – in reliable sources, that it would be undue weight to include it as an alternate title. It's a name, but apparently not a "significant alternative..." one.-- Fuhghettaboutit ( talk) 23:33, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
Newspapers generally use a more formal terminology when explaining anything. For example..they won't say it's 'pissing it down' outside, because even though many people use that expression to describe rainy weather, in general a printed newspaper will explain the weather in a more formal manner. The fact that many people in forums and quoted within news articles use the name "tunny wells" shows that many people refer to the town in this way. For a word or place name to be commonly used does not necessitate that newspapers and articles use it, just that people can be demonstrated to be using it a lot. As has been shown repeatedly above, the name Tunny Wells is being used countless times throughout many sources. CountyOfKent ( talk) 13:48, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
I disagree with this - the OP provided quite a few reliable sources. Five published books on the topic of Tunbridge Wells (and he offered to provide more sources). How can you get any more relevant or reliable than that? I have not seen anyone respond directly to these references in any meaningful way 80.231.171.215 ( talk) 16:05, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
I can see the overwhelming consensus is that we should keep Tunny Wells in the article. I'll leave this for a few hours and then close the request for opinions. TheEditorUK2015 ( talk) 09:19, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
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Toponym should have it's own standalone section at the top of the article because it defines the placename, which everything in this article is rooted to. Without a name it is nowhere. Toponym shouldn't be a subsection in the history section because the name of the town has already been used in the aforementioned section. Toponym should be the first section in the main body of the article due its singular importance. Currently positioning is like putting the cart before the horse. 150.143.66.222 ( talk) 13:33, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
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Twenty-first century On the 6th of May 2023, the Chalybeate Spring Well was reopened by local businessman Samuel Danby [1] at the coronation of Charles III and his wife, Camilla. [2] The site also includes a QR_code animated tour guide around Tunbridge Wells produced by Quirky Motion, explaining the town's history and connection to the Royal Spring. (3)
3 - https://www.royaltwwater.com 87.74.138.91 ( talk) 08:44, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
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This 2008 listing contains significant uncited material, a lack of updates since the mid-2000s, and some instances of excessive detail/trivia. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 ( talk) 20:03, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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Under the governance section, in the paragraph beginning "The Member of Parliament (MP) for Tunbridge Wells is the Conservative Greg Clark,[27] whose majority at the 2017 election was 16,465.[28] In September 2019, Clark was one of 21 Conservative MP's to have the whip removed, after failing to back the Government, in keeping the option of a No-deal Brexit on the negotiating table."
In the phrase "one of 21 Conservative MP's" please delete the apostrophe in "MP's". The plural of MP is MPs as shown in the following sentence in the same paragraph. The apostrophe is NOT a way of forming a plural. Many thanks, Romanwriter Romanwriter ( talk) 09:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)