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Reviewer: MPJ-DK ( talk · contribs) 00:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
So in the interest of full disclosure yes I am a WikiCup participant as well but I will be judging this based on the GA guidelines and try to be as fair as I can be. In previous GA reviews I have prided myself in working with the authors to ensure this truly does represent some of Wikipedia's finest work.
So first run through of the review I have found some fundamental problems that need to be addressed if this is to pass and I have not gotten past the lead. MPJ -US 00:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Quick Hit from the various GA Tools listed
So several of the sources come up as dead when I use the link checker tool.
Click here to see. This lists a number of dead links (in red - total of 6), also lists some where the articles redirect to a slightly different url (in green - 9 in total) those will have to be checked to ensure they're actually still going to the right place.
I am currently competing in the "
Take the Lead!" contest as well so I have studied the guidelines on leads in the article and come across a few fundamental problems.
I will continue to review the body of the article but I already found so many issues I had to point it out to allow you as much time as possible to address this. Let me know if you have questions, need me to re-examine something or anything else and I will be happy to help. MPJ -US 00:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
prnewswire - To me this looks like a PR site, not an actual news site, but I could be wrong:- prnewswire.co.uk is used in over 800 articles in English Wikipedia and few other articles on other language Wikipedia. It can be trusted.
Here it lists the name of the company as "Seagram Manufacturing Ltd." in the lead it's listed as "Richard Pernod india" and generally the article refers to "Richard Pernod" without the India in the name, not consistent.:- As per requirement changes have been done. While talking regarding global scenario "Pernod Ricard" is written and "Pernod Ricard India" for more local level. Seagram was not part of Pernod Ricard till 2002, so in history section mention of Seagram is necessary. Royal Stag became brand of Pernod Ricard in 2002, before that it was brand of Seagram.
History stops at 2011??:- In History there is info till 2011, rest of info can be seen in Marketing section regarding recent brand ambassadors, and also in sales section regarding recent sale. So I did not write it in History section.
The section seems woefully short, Good articles cover all aspects, this seems to be more of a throwaway side note - no information on sales, reception or anything?:- Section of "Barrel Select" was small and was quite unnecessary, I merged that section to history section. No specific info regarding its sale or reception not found.
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Source [30] mentions an appeal, but the article has no follow up on this?
:- Even after enormous search could not find follow up news. All news were saying "Wasim will make appeal". Still I added that "Wasim's lawyer denied all allegations".
"It was requested that Seagram withdraw the ad" - no mention if they did nor not?:- Again, not found follow up news.
Lots of announcements of brand ambassadors - no mention of contracts expiring? Do they just keep adding ambassadors?:- They does have multiple brand ambassadors. When in 2012 they chose Shah Rukh Khan as ambassador then earlier long term ambassador Saif Ali Khan also remained ambassador. Read this news which says "Shahrukh will work in tandem with his fellow Bollywood actor Saif Ali Khan". While in 2014 when they chose Ranveer Singh as brand ambassador still they maintained stand that Shahrukh will continue to endorse the brand. Regarding others like Mahesh Babu, he is regional star, popular in specific states. As per regional popularity of various celebrities they have multiple brand ambassadors.
An indian whiskey sponsors a Canadian music event? I think that's really the first place I get a hint that this sells outside of India, I did not actually think so before I read that - is that right or wrong?:- Royal Stag sponsored Cricket event in Toronto in 1990s. That time it was brand of Seagram. If you see Seagram then Seagram itself a Canadian company. So they may have sponsored some events in Canada, but since 2002, it is bought by Pernod Ricard and "Royal Stag is the Indian operation of Pernod Ricard". It is specifically made for India, as one of source in article says "it is one of 5 core brands of Pernod Ricard in India".
@ Human3015: - I saw your latest round of edits and checked the article again. I addressed the issue with the space with the units and then a link was accidentally broken that I fixed. Both were minor issues so it was easier to just fix them. This article now hits the "Good Article" criteria to me. This is excellent work and I appreciate how receptive you were to my inputs. Contratulations this is passed. MPJ -US 12:50, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
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Reviewer: MPJ-DK ( talk · contribs) 00:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
So in the interest of full disclosure yes I am a WikiCup participant as well but I will be judging this based on the GA guidelines and try to be as fair as I can be. In previous GA reviews I have prided myself in working with the authors to ensure this truly does represent some of Wikipedia's finest work.
So first run through of the review I have found some fundamental problems that need to be addressed if this is to pass and I have not gotten past the lead. MPJ -US 00:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
Quick Hit from the various GA Tools listed
So several of the sources come up as dead when I use the link checker tool.
Click here to see. This lists a number of dead links (in red - total of 6), also lists some where the articles redirect to a slightly different url (in green - 9 in total) those will have to be checked to ensure they're actually still going to the right place.
I am currently competing in the "
Take the Lead!" contest as well so I have studied the guidelines on leads in the article and come across a few fundamental problems.
I will continue to review the body of the article but I already found so many issues I had to point it out to allow you as much time as possible to address this. Let me know if you have questions, need me to re-examine something or anything else and I will be happy to help. MPJ -US 00:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
prnewswire - To me this looks like a PR site, not an actual news site, but I could be wrong:- prnewswire.co.uk is used in over 800 articles in English Wikipedia and few other articles on other language Wikipedia. It can be trusted.
Here it lists the name of the company as "Seagram Manufacturing Ltd." in the lead it's listed as "Richard Pernod india" and generally the article refers to "Richard Pernod" without the India in the name, not consistent.:- As per requirement changes have been done. While talking regarding global scenario "Pernod Ricard" is written and "Pernod Ricard India" for more local level. Seagram was not part of Pernod Ricard till 2002, so in history section mention of Seagram is necessary. Royal Stag became brand of Pernod Ricard in 2002, before that it was brand of Seagram.
History stops at 2011??:- In History there is info till 2011, rest of info can be seen in Marketing section regarding recent brand ambassadors, and also in sales section regarding recent sale. So I did not write it in History section.
The section seems woefully short, Good articles cover all aspects, this seems to be more of a throwaway side note - no information on sales, reception or anything?:- Section of "Barrel Select" was small and was quite unnecessary, I merged that section to history section. No specific info regarding its sale or reception not found.
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Source [30] mentions an appeal, but the article has no follow up on this?
:- Even after enormous search could not find follow up news. All news were saying "Wasim will make appeal". Still I added that "Wasim's lawyer denied all allegations".
"It was requested that Seagram withdraw the ad" - no mention if they did nor not?:- Again, not found follow up news.
Lots of announcements of brand ambassadors - no mention of contracts expiring? Do they just keep adding ambassadors?:- They does have multiple brand ambassadors. When in 2012 they chose Shah Rukh Khan as ambassador then earlier long term ambassador Saif Ali Khan also remained ambassador. Read this news which says "Shahrukh will work in tandem with his fellow Bollywood actor Saif Ali Khan". While in 2014 when they chose Ranveer Singh as brand ambassador still they maintained stand that Shahrukh will continue to endorse the brand. Regarding others like Mahesh Babu, he is regional star, popular in specific states. As per regional popularity of various celebrities they have multiple brand ambassadors.
An indian whiskey sponsors a Canadian music event? I think that's really the first place I get a hint that this sells outside of India, I did not actually think so before I read that - is that right or wrong?:- Royal Stag sponsored Cricket event in Toronto in 1990s. That time it was brand of Seagram. If you see Seagram then Seagram itself a Canadian company. So they may have sponsored some events in Canada, but since 2002, it is bought by Pernod Ricard and "Royal Stag is the Indian operation of Pernod Ricard". It is specifically made for India, as one of source in article says "it is one of 5 core brands of Pernod Ricard in India".
@ Human3015: - I saw your latest round of edits and checked the article again. I addressed the issue with the space with the units and then a link was accidentally broken that I fixed. Both were minor issues so it was easier to just fix them. This article now hits the "Good Article" criteria to me. This is excellent work and I appreciate how receptive you were to my inputs. Contratulations this is passed. MPJ -US 12:50, 17 January 2016 (UTC)