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Someone should really put the hit singles list in a table format. The list style format makes it all cluttered, especially when you look at the peak spots in various countries for each song.
I partially agree. While Roxette is surely NOT some obscure band - not even remotely close to it, look at their four No.1s in the US and NINETEEN Top 40 hits in UK - the article is obviously just overly detailed It should be much more concise, thats for sure. And Introduction sucks... By the way, I can't seem to be able to edit it - I get a message error. Is it because it doesn't have separate "edit" option for it? Scholar91 19:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)Scholar91
This is overall a good article, but it has a somewhat derogatory tone through-out. To say that "Roxette's popularity can be difficult to understand", about a band that has sold over 40 million records seems odd. Tha same tone is repeated through-out the text.-- 85.225.41.189 09:28, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
What nobody seems to understand - or be aware of - is how a major part of their commercial decline in the US was obviously tied to trouble (read = cluelessness) with the US arm of EMI/Capitol. A band that has 6 of its first 7 singles go to either #1 or #2, suddenly stops selling overnight? Even when, if anything, the general tone of their music goes with, not against, the current musical climate? (ie, less emphasis on the "power ballads", more of the power-pop aspects), and their worldwide sales continue to be very healthy? (And lest this be taken as a specific sour grapes argument, check into the worldwide vs. US sales and profile of Crowded House and the Pet Shop Boys during roughly the same period - two other EMI/Capitol artists.)
I have found no reason why this image is copyvio. I have found no arguments on Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images, (perhaps I looked in the wrong places...?) The image description on the German page, quick link here: [1] shows that the author himself uploaded the image. If you go to commons, where this image is from, and click on the first version you will see a very large image that is unlikely to have been scanned (IMHO).
On commons, the author (in German) explains that he allows the image to be used on wikipedia. For these reasons, I see no reason not to have this nice image on English wikipedia too...
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I have been editing this article beyond reason and have finished for now. Anyone who may have been reading this during the edits and noticing nit-picky changes in the past week, please forgive me. I did a lot of research to find this information out and wanted to make sure that there was a comprehensive history of Roxette since otherwise one has to do what I did, dig around, in order to find out things in any complete way. There's always more to know, but, for now, I hope the article proves comprehensive — at least satisfactory — enough.
-- Andrew Harmon 4 p.m. (EST-USA) Aug. 18, 2005
I have continued the edits, I have added information about the new album.
-- User:Kojack0 I will try to get some more information about each of the singles listed on this page and my aim in improving this Wiki is to ensure there are no red edit links on the page!
The article needs heavy and healthy editing. It is so overly detailed and written in that "eyes wide open" fan-derived celebratory tone. It reads more like a "love letter" from Roxette fans not an encyclopedia entry. It should be more balanced, more critical, more analytical....
Scholar91 20:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
All the album titles and their text need to go under a separate section named "Discography" or something like that.
Skypher 10:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
This article really needs clean up especially with regards to discography. There needs to either be a seperate discography article or there should be albums and singles charts in a table format. Can someone work on that? -- Mezaco 23:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
---Well it looks like it has already been cleaned up to me.
---Should these be combined? You should also put the year (month day and year) of their 20th year.
---I have some trivia about pronunciation errors that Roxette make in some songs. Should I add them to the trivia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.131.36.144 ( talk) 01:26, 12 January 2007 (UTC).
This article is terrible, even more so as it is for such a successful and high profile band Paul75 ( talk) 23:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Please note that Roxette´s sales in the US were not the 2.5 millions that it reads in the article. Look Sharp! sold around 1.500.000 according to recent information given by Per Gessle. Joyride sold 1.000.000 copies. Tourism sold almost 300.000 copies. Favorites from the Crash! Boom! Bang! (which was a smaller version of Crash! Boom! Bang! only available as a special deal at the McDonald's restaurant chain in the US) sold another 1.000.000 copies.
In 2000 Edel Records released a Greatest Hits in the US (and few other countries) It eventually sold 600.000 copies worldwide. I would not be surprised if most of them were sold in the US... Biggest markets like Europe (except Sweden) didn´t get that release, and in other importants markets for Roxette like South America, that compilation was released only in Argentina.
According to Per Gessle, their last compilation "A collection of Roxette Hits" has sold 35.000 copies in the US... Nothing for a big market of course, but I wanted to include that info here... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.188.113.77 ( talk) 03:55, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
why did delete roxette's articles tours???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.138.216.227 ( talk) 06:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm a huge Roxette fan - have every original album except Myths (a collection of demos)... I came here looking for a separate discography of their compilation albums, but I only find some info on 'Pop Hits' and 'Balled Hits' burried deep within the article. Actually, I think that info about how many sales these (OR ANY COMPILATIONS ALBUMS) got, is really boring... I don't care about how many compilation CDs they sold, it's more important getting background on the 6 studio albums (my view anyway) and what inspired the original songs, CD track lineups etc. But, a small list of their Compilation albums (without any boring menial sales details) is what I wanted tonight, but never found... I'm surprised at this, just go to other famous acts on Wikipedia (Cyndi Lauper for example) and you'll see ALL their CDs. Again, this is only my view, so thanks for letting me share it.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.192.8.80 ( talk) 14:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Why do you think Roxette formed in 1985? There is no evidence to support this. Per & Marie first recorded together as Roxette in 86 and released Pearls of Passion in the same year. Please refrain from making further edits to Roxette's page until you have sources to back up your claim that they formed in 85. Although I don't think you will find any such sources. If you go to Roxette's official webpage and click on biography you'll see that they formed in 86. Also international or worldwide success didn't happen until the second album Look Sharp and single "The Look" was released in the late 80s(88/89). Pearls of Passion(86) was only released in Sweden. Therefore writing that international success started in the mid 80s is false. Finally mide is spelt mid. Mattg82 ( talk) 20:44, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
To any editors: Please do not change/inflate Roxette's sales figures without any discussion first, thank you.
Using this Expressen article as a guide, this is how many each album has sold:
Using available certification databases this is what Roxette have sold country by country:
Further evidence:
With the evidence above I don't believe Roxette's total sales would come to 70 or 75 million records. I am aware of missing and incorrect certifications but there still wouldn't be enough to justify a figure of 70/75m atm, thanks :)
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Hi there! I see that someone changed the numbers to 70 million again. In the meantime I found some more recent (than the old 60 million quotes) media sources for 75 million sales: From 2006 www.hd.se and 2009 www.aftonbladet.se Could anybody please link these?
Pumadog ( talk) 17:08, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Saying that Roxette sold 90.000 albums in Argentina is RIDICULOUS ("Joyride" by itself sold even more). I know there's no official figures at the CAPIF website for the early albums, but it's a well-known fact there was no official sales chart in the early 90's. CAPIF's website is not totally complete either.
Just watched again the TV programme were they got the awards. The EMI people said "Joyride" have sold 250.000 copies, so the album was awarded 4xPlatinum (60.000 x 4 = 240.000). By then, the best-selling English language album ever in the country. They also say that, according to the market tendencies, they expect a total of 400.000 copies being sold by the end of 1992.
They also got awards for "Look Sharp!". But they do not mention how many copies have been sold or what kind of awards they were (gold or platinum). I am quite sure "Tourism" and "CBB" have sold well too.
Faezdel ( talk) 14:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
We shouldn't worry too much as to what kind of sales Roxette may have generated in smaller markets like Argentina as it would take six to eight small markets of similar size to generate the same amount of sales as the UK (the third largest market in the world) can alone. And the developed markets all post their certifications once the records (albums/singles) reach the required level. Newer records always take some time to process, older records, however, once disappeared from the charts or sell at a slow rate which would not push the sales to the next certification-award-level anytime soon, the record companies submit the required fees to obtain the certifications. Surely, there are remainder units that exist between the first and second platinum-award-levels (for example) that we cannot see by simply looking at certifications, but that doesn't mean that the 14.8 million from above markets would ever turn into double that amount (29.6 million) if we had access to them. In other words, 60 million in sales, however one looks at it, is more realistic than the previous 70 million. By the way, I'm not sure about Argentina's sales figures posted above (250,000 for Joyride or 4x Platinum), I don't speak Spanish; therefore, I can't understand much what they state in the Youtube footage, but it does sound to me they present certification-awards of combined sales of number of Latin American countries (Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina), but again like I said I'm not sure.-- Harout72 ( talk) 17:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
You may be interested in Talk:A-ha/Archives/2013#Sales relative to Roxette. Yaris678 ( talk) 13:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
In the official press release EMI, Roxette's record label recognise worldwide sales of 70 million, this should be took as the genuine figure as they are the most reliable source being the bands official record label worldwide for the duration of their career.
http://www.emimusic.com/blog/2010/roxette-turn-on-the-charm/
Earlier this year Roxette received a special Music Export Prize "for extraordinary achievements in promoting and spreading Swedish music abroad". The official press release authenticates Roxette's sales of "over 50 million albums and 20 million singles". I think the government checked sources. ;) [1] [2] Pumadog ( talk) 15:19, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Currently there are four music samples in this article: "Almost Unreal" and all three singles from Room Service. I think it would be better if these samples had been swapped out with other samples of more notable Roxette songs like "The Look" and "It Must Have Been Love", and maybe a single from Charm School as well. Thoughts? - Aphasia83 ( talk) 23:40, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
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I am going to take a break for a while s will close this as a pass. The only concern unaddressed was that many of the chart links lead to a search engine instead of the actual page. While not ideal t is still not a major problem, and considering the rest of the article it still merits a pass. 23:10, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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Someone should really put the hit singles list in a table format. The list style format makes it all cluttered, especially when you look at the peak spots in various countries for each song.
I partially agree. While Roxette is surely NOT some obscure band - not even remotely close to it, look at their four No.1s in the US and NINETEEN Top 40 hits in UK - the article is obviously just overly detailed It should be much more concise, thats for sure. And Introduction sucks... By the way, I can't seem to be able to edit it - I get a message error. Is it because it doesn't have separate "edit" option for it? Scholar91 19:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)Scholar91
This is overall a good article, but it has a somewhat derogatory tone through-out. To say that "Roxette's popularity can be difficult to understand", about a band that has sold over 40 million records seems odd. Tha same tone is repeated through-out the text.-- 85.225.41.189 09:28, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
What nobody seems to understand - or be aware of - is how a major part of their commercial decline in the US was obviously tied to trouble (read = cluelessness) with the US arm of EMI/Capitol. A band that has 6 of its first 7 singles go to either #1 or #2, suddenly stops selling overnight? Even when, if anything, the general tone of their music goes with, not against, the current musical climate? (ie, less emphasis on the "power ballads", more of the power-pop aspects), and their worldwide sales continue to be very healthy? (And lest this be taken as a specific sour grapes argument, check into the worldwide vs. US sales and profile of Crowded House and the Pet Shop Boys during roughly the same period - two other EMI/Capitol artists.)
I have found no reason why this image is copyvio. I have found no arguments on Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images, (perhaps I looked in the wrong places...?) The image description on the German page, quick link here: [1] shows that the author himself uploaded the image. If you go to commons, where this image is from, and click on the first version you will see a very large image that is unlikely to have been scanned (IMHO).
On commons, the author (in German) explains that he allows the image to be used on wikipedia. For these reasons, I see no reason not to have this nice image on English wikipedia too...
-- Fred chessplayer 02:19, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I have been editing this article beyond reason and have finished for now. Anyone who may have been reading this during the edits and noticing nit-picky changes in the past week, please forgive me. I did a lot of research to find this information out and wanted to make sure that there was a comprehensive history of Roxette since otherwise one has to do what I did, dig around, in order to find out things in any complete way. There's always more to know, but, for now, I hope the article proves comprehensive — at least satisfactory — enough.
-- Andrew Harmon 4 p.m. (EST-USA) Aug. 18, 2005
I have continued the edits, I have added information about the new album.
-- User:Kojack0 I will try to get some more information about each of the singles listed on this page and my aim in improving this Wiki is to ensure there are no red edit links on the page!
The article needs heavy and healthy editing. It is so overly detailed and written in that "eyes wide open" fan-derived celebratory tone. It reads more like a "love letter" from Roxette fans not an encyclopedia entry. It should be more balanced, more critical, more analytical....
Scholar91 20:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
All the album titles and their text need to go under a separate section named "Discography" or something like that.
Skypher 10:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
This article really needs clean up especially with regards to discography. There needs to either be a seperate discography article or there should be albums and singles charts in a table format. Can someone work on that? -- Mezaco 23:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
---Well it looks like it has already been cleaned up to me.
---Should these be combined? You should also put the year (month day and year) of their 20th year.
---I have some trivia about pronunciation errors that Roxette make in some songs. Should I add them to the trivia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.131.36.144 ( talk) 01:26, 12 January 2007 (UTC).
This article is terrible, even more so as it is for such a successful and high profile band Paul75 ( talk) 23:05, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Please note that Roxette´s sales in the US were not the 2.5 millions that it reads in the article. Look Sharp! sold around 1.500.000 according to recent information given by Per Gessle. Joyride sold 1.000.000 copies. Tourism sold almost 300.000 copies. Favorites from the Crash! Boom! Bang! (which was a smaller version of Crash! Boom! Bang! only available as a special deal at the McDonald's restaurant chain in the US) sold another 1.000.000 copies.
In 2000 Edel Records released a Greatest Hits in the US (and few other countries) It eventually sold 600.000 copies worldwide. I would not be surprised if most of them were sold in the US... Biggest markets like Europe (except Sweden) didn´t get that release, and in other importants markets for Roxette like South America, that compilation was released only in Argentina.
According to Per Gessle, their last compilation "A collection of Roxette Hits" has sold 35.000 copies in the US... Nothing for a big market of course, but I wanted to include that info here... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.188.113.77 ( talk) 03:55, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
why did delete roxette's articles tours???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.138.216.227 ( talk) 06:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm a huge Roxette fan - have every original album except Myths (a collection of demos)... I came here looking for a separate discography of their compilation albums, but I only find some info on 'Pop Hits' and 'Balled Hits' burried deep within the article. Actually, I think that info about how many sales these (OR ANY COMPILATIONS ALBUMS) got, is really boring... I don't care about how many compilation CDs they sold, it's more important getting background on the 6 studio albums (my view anyway) and what inspired the original songs, CD track lineups etc. But, a small list of their Compilation albums (without any boring menial sales details) is what I wanted tonight, but never found... I'm surprised at this, just go to other famous acts on Wikipedia (Cyndi Lauper for example) and you'll see ALL their CDs. Again, this is only my view, so thanks for letting me share it.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.192.8.80 ( talk) 14:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Why do you think Roxette formed in 1985? There is no evidence to support this. Per & Marie first recorded together as Roxette in 86 and released Pearls of Passion in the same year. Please refrain from making further edits to Roxette's page until you have sources to back up your claim that they formed in 85. Although I don't think you will find any such sources. If you go to Roxette's official webpage and click on biography you'll see that they formed in 86. Also international or worldwide success didn't happen until the second album Look Sharp and single "The Look" was released in the late 80s(88/89). Pearls of Passion(86) was only released in Sweden. Therefore writing that international success started in the mid 80s is false. Finally mide is spelt mid. Mattg82 ( talk) 20:44, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
To any editors: Please do not change/inflate Roxette's sales figures without any discussion first, thank you.
Using this Expressen article as a guide, this is how many each album has sold:
Using available certification databases this is what Roxette have sold country by country:
Further evidence:
With the evidence above I don't believe Roxette's total sales would come to 70 or 75 million records. I am aware of missing and incorrect certifications but there still wouldn't be enough to justify a figure of 70/75m atm, thanks :)
Mattg82 (
talk)
00:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi there! I see that someone changed the numbers to 70 million again. In the meantime I found some more recent (than the old 60 million quotes) media sources for 75 million sales: From 2006 www.hd.se and 2009 www.aftonbladet.se Could anybody please link these?
Pumadog ( talk) 17:08, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Saying that Roxette sold 90.000 albums in Argentina is RIDICULOUS ("Joyride" by itself sold even more). I know there's no official figures at the CAPIF website for the early albums, but it's a well-known fact there was no official sales chart in the early 90's. CAPIF's website is not totally complete either.
Just watched again the TV programme were they got the awards. The EMI people said "Joyride" have sold 250.000 copies, so the album was awarded 4xPlatinum (60.000 x 4 = 240.000). By then, the best-selling English language album ever in the country. They also say that, according to the market tendencies, they expect a total of 400.000 copies being sold by the end of 1992.
They also got awards for "Look Sharp!". But they do not mention how many copies have been sold or what kind of awards they were (gold or platinum). I am quite sure "Tourism" and "CBB" have sold well too.
Faezdel ( talk) 14:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
We shouldn't worry too much as to what kind of sales Roxette may have generated in smaller markets like Argentina as it would take six to eight small markets of similar size to generate the same amount of sales as the UK (the third largest market in the world) can alone. And the developed markets all post their certifications once the records (albums/singles) reach the required level. Newer records always take some time to process, older records, however, once disappeared from the charts or sell at a slow rate which would not push the sales to the next certification-award-level anytime soon, the record companies submit the required fees to obtain the certifications. Surely, there are remainder units that exist between the first and second platinum-award-levels (for example) that we cannot see by simply looking at certifications, but that doesn't mean that the 14.8 million from above markets would ever turn into double that amount (29.6 million) if we had access to them. In other words, 60 million in sales, however one looks at it, is more realistic than the previous 70 million. By the way, I'm not sure about Argentina's sales figures posted above (250,000 for Joyride or 4x Platinum), I don't speak Spanish; therefore, I can't understand much what they state in the Youtube footage, but it does sound to me they present certification-awards of combined sales of number of Latin American countries (Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina), but again like I said I'm not sure.-- Harout72 ( talk) 17:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
You may be interested in Talk:A-ha/Archives/2013#Sales relative to Roxette. Yaris678 ( talk) 13:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
In the official press release EMI, Roxette's record label recognise worldwide sales of 70 million, this should be took as the genuine figure as they are the most reliable source being the bands official record label worldwide for the duration of their career.
http://www.emimusic.com/blog/2010/roxette-turn-on-the-charm/
Earlier this year Roxette received a special Music Export Prize "for extraordinary achievements in promoting and spreading Swedish music abroad". The official press release authenticates Roxette's sales of "over 50 million albums and 20 million singles". I think the government checked sources. ;) [1] [2] Pumadog ( talk) 15:19, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Currently there are four music samples in this article: "Almost Unreal" and all three singles from Room Service. I think it would be better if these samples had been swapped out with other samples of more notable Roxette songs like "The Look" and "It Must Have Been Love", and maybe a single from Charm School as well. Thoughts? - Aphasia83 ( talk) 23:40, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
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I have read through the article and made some changes as I went [2]. You might want to check that I haven't introduced any inaccuracies. Have left some comments below. Feel free to question any of them. AIRcorn (talk) 09:15, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I am going to take a break for a while s will close this as a pass. The only concern unaddressed was that many of the chart links lead to a search engine instead of the actual page. While not ideal t is still not a major problem, and considering the rest of the article it still merits a pass. 23:10, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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