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Why aren't the types listed? I know there are at least 2: German and American. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.250.254.78 ( talk) 01:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the breeds use / exploitation by the nazis in the concentration camps be mentioned under the history heading -- Hadseys ( talk • contribs) 00:50, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
The suggested "edits" are far more biased than the article itself, which does not merit the "warning" flag. The article is accurate and sourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.138.128 ( talk) 12:59, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Can anyone else see my point? I love large working dogs the Rottweiler being one of them. The quote just struck me as being rather amusing....
Secretsmiler ( talk) 11:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)secretsmiler
Greetings I'm new to all of this but I can see from almost every coment above that there really hasn't been any thought gone into either side of the debate I probably had a bettr idea of what the truth really is before I could walk both sides are as bad as each other (Al) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.44.106.45 ( talk) 22:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bob98133 - I was trying to allude to the point that; a) I can't seem to find during the time of the survey a precise number of dogs in the USA at the time, and in fact how many were on ratio large working dogs (with one would hope experienced and competent handlers)ha ha. b) the circumstances these fatal attacks occurred. and that c) It would of course, be a breed of dog that is large, clever and mainly used for security that would be likely to be in the top for human fatal attacks, not a toy breed. I would presume that a large breed readily available in the USA with a history of herding and attack would be the rottweiler as it is arguably on of the most favourable along with GSD.
It amused me to think that some people may assume from such survey results that a rottweiler would be a bad choice in dog, and although not necessarily fatal I would be interested to see on average how many bites/attacks (non-fatals) occurred in the USA at the same time from all dog breeds. A larger breed, with instincts like the rottweiler will on average always have serious consequences after an attack where as a toy breed wont since they neither have the jaw capacity or weight behind them - hence the slightly tongue in cheek English humour I deployed.
Secretsmiler ( talk) 16:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)secretsmiler
Hi bob, I dont think your being a smart ass, if anything I think you and I are saying the same things in different ways, little dogs versa big dogs and the consequences of their attacks - the bigger the dog the more likely the severity of the attack!
- maybe this is a prime exapmle of "you say tom-ateo and I say tom-arto" ?? :D Secretsmiler ( talk) 18:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)secretsmiler
sorry, read this, I think its a simple concept, large dogs have more potential to kill humans, just as a cat has more potential than a guinea pig to kill a mouse, I don't think that chiuaua has anything to do with it... and I hate to have to do this but SecretSmiler, you did not really deploy any english humour, you employed it, however I thought it was good :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.186.228 ( talk) 10:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
The material recently reverted from the Temperment section was plagiarized totally or in part from : [1] and/or other pages, so even if substantiated with refs it is not acceptible here. Bob98133 ( talk) 18:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
The article originally said this.
As with any breed, potentially dangerous behaviour in Rottweilers results from irresponsible ownership, abuse, neglect, or lack of socialization and training rather than from any inherent breed characteristic.
I have changed it to read as follows.
As with any breed, potentially dangerous behaviour in Rottweilers usually results from irresponsible ownership, abuse, neglect, or lack of socialization and training. Inherent breed characteristics are not a factor.
First of all, Rottweilers, no matter how badly people want to dispel the myths about them, still do sometimes get "bad" genes. That requires the qualifier "usually" in the sentence. Second, two sentences are needed. If left as one, it says that no breeds have inherent characteristics for dangerous behavior. That's obviously not true in the least bit.
Also, "Inherent breed characteristics are not a factor" is an accurate statement because while individual dogs may have inherently dangerous behavior, the population as a whole does not have that characteristic.-- Lithfo ( talk) 08:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
These dogs temperament section need to show how violent them are. In Germany there are strict laws for tethering. It should be mention. 190.213.40.199 ( talk) 11:16, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, leashing is a kind of tethering, isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.88.171 ( talk) 11:39, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I would make the assumption that "tethering" refers to fastening the dog to an immobile point, such as a tree, fence post, stake, etc. "Leashing" refers to fastening a lead to a dog on one end and held by a human at the other.
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shouldn't it be made clear that these dogs have killed before? potential owners looking for a dog, doing research on the internet would need to know this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.213.111.139 ( talk) 00:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I imagine several breeds of dogs have killed before. It doesn't deter everyone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.88.171 ( talk) 11:41, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
The following seems like a convoluted way to present the statistic of 15,900 rottweilers being registered with the American Kennel Club in 2005. It seems like a suggestion, and also one out of place in the Temperament section:
It is important that those who love the breed, respect the breed. Some 15,900 rottweilers were registered with the American Kennel Club in 2005, so the question to breed your rottweiler, especially if not registered and not meeting breed standards, should be given serious consideration.
Should this be re-written, deleted, or at least moved to a more appropriate section? Flyamanito ( talk) 00:25, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Is the hero of the picture book _Good Dog, Carl!_ and its sequels a Rottweiler?
Pittsburgh Poet ( talk) 00:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Got up this morning and my 18 month old Rotti has a nose bleed wondering in anyone would know if this is common in the breed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.179.221 ( talk) 14:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
a lot to do with the article... even if it is common, it cant be good —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.186.228 ( talk) 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Is there a way to have the intro based on sourced information -- otherwise how is the reader to know what's credible here, and what's anecdotal? 842U ( talk) 14:18, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
This article makes an excessive, visible effort to portray the breed in a sympathetic light. The Rottweiler is a genuinely dangerous animal, and that should not simply be brushed off as a human misconception. Rather than simply making oblique references to how "the breed has gained some negative publicity," before then launching into emotive apologetics, said apologetics should be balanced with citations of attacks. The attempt at rationalisation of Rottweiler attacks, by stating that they need to be taken in the context of overall dog attack statistics, is likewise defensive and inappropriate.
Petrus4 ( talk) 23:17, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
The rottweiler is a dangerous animal; just like an electrical outlet is a dangerous item. Usually, when someone gets hurt, it is because someone did something stupid. If you walk up to a Rottweiler and it attacks you, then it either was not trained right, or you were not where you were supposed to be. The moral of the story is not to do something that is going to piss off the 150lb hunting dog (you know "hunting" where you "kill" things?), just like you shouldn't piss of an electrical outlet or a police officer or a guy twice you size. 71.21.153.42 ( talk) 17:10, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Petrus4, I appreciate your concern that people who read on rottweilers need to think they are dangerous, as they are. But I do not see how the article is sympathetic, it states what is there, after all as the user above mentioned a rottweiler has potential for harm if you let it, One should not be surprised that he is killed by a dog like that if he takes the risk. I could make a case that the most dangerous place to be is inside as more people have died inside than outside. Therefore I will paint all articles on houses and buildings angrily as they should not be sympathised with as human killers - thats what this really is, a widescale, slightly unfounded fear of these dogs Malkitas ( talk) 10:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
On the end of the photo gallery their is a pair of rottwilders but no captain i would like to see one. due to the face i can spot things out pretty good, thank you. -- Rottie62 ( talk) 09:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
The odd term "negative publicity" is used to describe both portrayal in fiction of the Rottweiler as an evil dog and actual Rottweiler attack fatalities. I requested a citation for the claim, "The portrayal of Rottweilers as evil dogs in several fictional films and TV series, most notably in The Omen, and negative press has added to their negative publicity. This has led to Rottweilers being banned in some municipalities." I do not think that the Omen is the reason for breed specific legislation, but rather the attacks and fatalities from this breed are the source. The author of these sections of the article uses a tone that believes breed specific legislation is unfair and sourced by the media. A neutral tone would be better as well as sourcing of material. I'll give the author some time to back up the statements before changing or deleting them. A better example would be the specific words of the legislature and the judges who have worked with these laws. They have said some very particular things about Rottweilers and those particular things have become the law of the land regardless of the personal fondness that Rottweiler lovers and wikipedia authors may hold. Gx872op ( talk) 16:14, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
It's amazing how the article for a breed that is commonly considered to more dangerous than most others, on average, is so much more coherent and objective than the articles related to the #1 breed of controversy (pit bulls). Any thing related to pit bulls here is a total mess, with vandalism and lying on both sides. Has anyone here tried to clean up the mess to which I am referring? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.92.68.79 ( talk) 06:59, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Article says 88-110 lbs for female and 110-130 for males. First of all, where is this range coming from and is it correct? The ADRK website for the FCI standard only says approximately 42 kg (92.5 lbs) and 50 kg (110 lbs). Second, assuming this is correct, should the article read large breed or large to giant breed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.81.91.60 ( talk) 01:33, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Why do people dock a Rottweiler's tail? It seems cruel to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.242.56 ( talk) 02:15, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
The article says that the Rottweiler may be the oldest herding breed. I'd just like to point out that if the Rottweiler dates only to the Roman Empire, the Cardigan Welsh Corgi would be older. The Cardigan is believed to be over 3000 years old. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nesr5 ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
The sentence "In 2011, of the 33 recorded dog attack fatalities in the U.S., four were by Rottweilers." under the temperament section is sourced from dogsbite.org, a website that skews fatal statistics by collecting data solely based on media reports. According to Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, dogsbite.org is not peer-reviewed by any academic organizations, and falls under the self-published and questionable source. While dogsbite.org should be acceptable to represent the pro-BSL position, it is not a reliable site for statistics. As such, a potentially misleading statement taken from their website should be removed from this article. PearlSt82 ( talk) 16:40, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to remove the rest of the paragraph as without the section deleted by Graham87 it makes no sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exactly2009 ( talk • contribs) 23:51, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
The average/suggested/breed standard weights need to be reveiwed. The information listed in article is not found on the cited pages. DouglasCalvert ( talk) 17:11, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I have a photo of a rottweiler that I think is a much better shot than the one that currently is being used for the main photo. However, I have long been against people using this page to arbitrarily post pics of their pet rottie (i.e. this ain't Facebook!) And, in the interest of full disclosure, yes, this is my dog, so I may be a bit biased. But, it's taken by a professional photographer and I really think this shot is a spectacular representation of the breed. (He's neutered, so I'm not making money showing him or breeding him or anything -- I really do think it's a better shot for the page, but the only thing I personally would get out of it bragging rights.) So, I am NOT going to change the photo unless there is some consensus. You can view the photo HERE. If you prefer the current shot, no hard feelings. JoelWhy?( talk) 17:52, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
I have never been to this page before tonight but have been looking at dog breed pages before editing a different breeds page. in comparison to many of them I thought this page looked pretty good. I could not see the reason for the fanpov tag. I went all the way back to September 2012 and looked at every single edit made since then in order to get a good sense of the page history. I feel the original addition of the fanpov tag was done in good faith but as no true explanation was given I am guessing it was about the temperament section. That has been edited several times since. The very positive description of the AKC was put in quotes making it clear it was not a wikipedia authored bit, stuff was added about the CDC study with appropriate dates given to show the age of the study. To my eyes both sides are presented and the article is neutral. As such I am going to suggest removal of the fanpov tag unless someone objects and posts up their reasons. If the consensus is to keep the tag then I suggest updating the date on it. Jemmaca ( talk) 09:23, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
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Why aren't the types listed? I know there are at least 2: German and American. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.250.254.78 ( talk) 01:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't the breeds use / exploitation by the nazis in the concentration camps be mentioned under the history heading -- Hadseys ( talk • contribs) 00:50, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
The suggested "edits" are far more biased than the article itself, which does not merit the "warning" flag. The article is accurate and sourced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.138.128 ( talk) 12:59, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Can anyone else see my point? I love large working dogs the Rottweiler being one of them. The quote just struck me as being rather amusing....
Secretsmiler ( talk) 11:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)secretsmiler
Greetings I'm new to all of this but I can see from almost every coment above that there really hasn't been any thought gone into either side of the debate I probably had a bettr idea of what the truth really is before I could walk both sides are as bad as each other (Al) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.44.106.45 ( talk) 22:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Bob98133 - I was trying to allude to the point that; a) I can't seem to find during the time of the survey a precise number of dogs in the USA at the time, and in fact how many were on ratio large working dogs (with one would hope experienced and competent handlers)ha ha. b) the circumstances these fatal attacks occurred. and that c) It would of course, be a breed of dog that is large, clever and mainly used for security that would be likely to be in the top for human fatal attacks, not a toy breed. I would presume that a large breed readily available in the USA with a history of herding and attack would be the rottweiler as it is arguably on of the most favourable along with GSD.
It amused me to think that some people may assume from such survey results that a rottweiler would be a bad choice in dog, and although not necessarily fatal I would be interested to see on average how many bites/attacks (non-fatals) occurred in the USA at the same time from all dog breeds. A larger breed, with instincts like the rottweiler will on average always have serious consequences after an attack where as a toy breed wont since they neither have the jaw capacity or weight behind them - hence the slightly tongue in cheek English humour I deployed.
Secretsmiler ( talk) 16:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)secretsmiler
Hi bob, I dont think your being a smart ass, if anything I think you and I are saying the same things in different ways, little dogs versa big dogs and the consequences of their attacks - the bigger the dog the more likely the severity of the attack!
- maybe this is a prime exapmle of "you say tom-ateo and I say tom-arto" ?? :D Secretsmiler ( talk) 18:03, 22 June 2008 (UTC)secretsmiler
sorry, read this, I think its a simple concept, large dogs have more potential to kill humans, just as a cat has more potential than a guinea pig to kill a mouse, I don't think that chiuaua has anything to do with it... and I hate to have to do this but SecretSmiler, you did not really deploy any english humour, you employed it, however I thought it was good :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.186.228 ( talk) 10:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
The material recently reverted from the Temperment section was plagiarized totally or in part from : [1] and/or other pages, so even if substantiated with refs it is not acceptible here. Bob98133 ( talk) 18:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
The article originally said this.
As with any breed, potentially dangerous behaviour in Rottweilers results from irresponsible ownership, abuse, neglect, or lack of socialization and training rather than from any inherent breed characteristic.
I have changed it to read as follows.
As with any breed, potentially dangerous behaviour in Rottweilers usually results from irresponsible ownership, abuse, neglect, or lack of socialization and training. Inherent breed characteristics are not a factor.
First of all, Rottweilers, no matter how badly people want to dispel the myths about them, still do sometimes get "bad" genes. That requires the qualifier "usually" in the sentence. Second, two sentences are needed. If left as one, it says that no breeds have inherent characteristics for dangerous behavior. That's obviously not true in the least bit.
Also, "Inherent breed characteristics are not a factor" is an accurate statement because while individual dogs may have inherently dangerous behavior, the population as a whole does not have that characteristic.-- Lithfo ( talk) 08:35, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
These dogs temperament section need to show how violent them are. In Germany there are strict laws for tethering. It should be mention. 190.213.40.199 ( talk) 11:16, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, leashing is a kind of tethering, isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.88.171 ( talk) 11:39, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I would make the assumption that "tethering" refers to fastening the dog to an immobile point, such as a tree, fence post, stake, etc. "Leashing" refers to fastening a lead to a dog on one end and held by a human at the other.
T.R. Young (
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19:17, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
i realy dont like dogs and i am on another website that aint even mine —Preceding
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21:15, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
shouldn't it be made clear that these dogs have killed before? potential owners looking for a dog, doing research on the internet would need to know this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.213.111.139 ( talk) 00:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I imagine several breeds of dogs have killed before. It doesn't deter everyone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.88.171 ( talk) 11:41, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
The following seems like a convoluted way to present the statistic of 15,900 rottweilers being registered with the American Kennel Club in 2005. It seems like a suggestion, and also one out of place in the Temperament section:
It is important that those who love the breed, respect the breed. Some 15,900 rottweilers were registered with the American Kennel Club in 2005, so the question to breed your rottweiler, especially if not registered and not meeting breed standards, should be given serious consideration.
Should this be re-written, deleted, or at least moved to a more appropriate section? Flyamanito ( talk) 00:25, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Is the hero of the picture book _Good Dog, Carl!_ and its sequels a Rottweiler?
Pittsburgh Poet ( talk) 00:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Got up this morning and my 18 month old Rotti has a nose bleed wondering in anyone would know if this is common in the breed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.75.179.221 ( talk) 14:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
a lot to do with the article... even if it is common, it cant be good —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.186.228 ( talk) 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
Is there a way to have the intro based on sourced information -- otherwise how is the reader to know what's credible here, and what's anecdotal? 842U ( talk) 14:18, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
This article makes an excessive, visible effort to portray the breed in a sympathetic light. The Rottweiler is a genuinely dangerous animal, and that should not simply be brushed off as a human misconception. Rather than simply making oblique references to how "the breed has gained some negative publicity," before then launching into emotive apologetics, said apologetics should be balanced with citations of attacks. The attempt at rationalisation of Rottweiler attacks, by stating that they need to be taken in the context of overall dog attack statistics, is likewise defensive and inappropriate.
Petrus4 ( talk) 23:17, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
The rottweiler is a dangerous animal; just like an electrical outlet is a dangerous item. Usually, when someone gets hurt, it is because someone did something stupid. If you walk up to a Rottweiler and it attacks you, then it either was not trained right, or you were not where you were supposed to be. The moral of the story is not to do something that is going to piss off the 150lb hunting dog (you know "hunting" where you "kill" things?), just like you shouldn't piss of an electrical outlet or a police officer or a guy twice you size. 71.21.153.42 ( talk) 17:10, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Petrus4, I appreciate your concern that people who read on rottweilers need to think they are dangerous, as they are. But I do not see how the article is sympathetic, it states what is there, after all as the user above mentioned a rottweiler has potential for harm if you let it, One should not be surprised that he is killed by a dog like that if he takes the risk. I could make a case that the most dangerous place to be is inside as more people have died inside than outside. Therefore I will paint all articles on houses and buildings angrily as they should not be sympathised with as human killers - thats what this really is, a widescale, slightly unfounded fear of these dogs Malkitas ( talk) 10:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
On the end of the photo gallery their is a pair of rottwilders but no captain i would like to see one. due to the face i can spot things out pretty good, thank you. -- Rottie62 ( talk) 09:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
The odd term "negative publicity" is used to describe both portrayal in fiction of the Rottweiler as an evil dog and actual Rottweiler attack fatalities. I requested a citation for the claim, "The portrayal of Rottweilers as evil dogs in several fictional films and TV series, most notably in The Omen, and negative press has added to their negative publicity. This has led to Rottweilers being banned in some municipalities." I do not think that the Omen is the reason for breed specific legislation, but rather the attacks and fatalities from this breed are the source. The author of these sections of the article uses a tone that believes breed specific legislation is unfair and sourced by the media. A neutral tone would be better as well as sourcing of material. I'll give the author some time to back up the statements before changing or deleting them. A better example would be the specific words of the legislature and the judges who have worked with these laws. They have said some very particular things about Rottweilers and those particular things have become the law of the land regardless of the personal fondness that Rottweiler lovers and wikipedia authors may hold. Gx872op ( talk) 16:14, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
It's amazing how the article for a breed that is commonly considered to more dangerous than most others, on average, is so much more coherent and objective than the articles related to the #1 breed of controversy (pit bulls). Any thing related to pit bulls here is a total mess, with vandalism and lying on both sides. Has anyone here tried to clean up the mess to which I am referring? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.92.68.79 ( talk) 06:59, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Article says 88-110 lbs for female and 110-130 for males. First of all, where is this range coming from and is it correct? The ADRK website for the FCI standard only says approximately 42 kg (92.5 lbs) and 50 kg (110 lbs). Second, assuming this is correct, should the article read large breed or large to giant breed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.81.91.60 ( talk) 01:33, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Why do people dock a Rottweiler's tail? It seems cruel to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.242.56 ( talk) 02:15, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
The article says that the Rottweiler may be the oldest herding breed. I'd just like to point out that if the Rottweiler dates only to the Roman Empire, the Cardigan Welsh Corgi would be older. The Cardigan is believed to be over 3000 years old. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nesr5 ( talk • contribs) 07:45, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
The sentence "In 2011, of the 33 recorded dog attack fatalities in the U.S., four were by Rottweilers." under the temperament section is sourced from dogsbite.org, a website that skews fatal statistics by collecting data solely based on media reports. According to Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, dogsbite.org is not peer-reviewed by any academic organizations, and falls under the self-published and questionable source. While dogsbite.org should be acceptable to represent the pro-BSL position, it is not a reliable site for statistics. As such, a potentially misleading statement taken from their website should be removed from this article. PearlSt82 ( talk) 16:40, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to remove the rest of the paragraph as without the section deleted by Graham87 it makes no sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exactly2009 ( talk • contribs) 23:51, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
The average/suggested/breed standard weights need to be reveiwed. The information listed in article is not found on the cited pages. DouglasCalvert ( talk) 17:11, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I have a photo of a rottweiler that I think is a much better shot than the one that currently is being used for the main photo. However, I have long been against people using this page to arbitrarily post pics of their pet rottie (i.e. this ain't Facebook!) And, in the interest of full disclosure, yes, this is my dog, so I may be a bit biased. But, it's taken by a professional photographer and I really think this shot is a spectacular representation of the breed. (He's neutered, so I'm not making money showing him or breeding him or anything -- I really do think it's a better shot for the page, but the only thing I personally would get out of it bragging rights.) So, I am NOT going to change the photo unless there is some consensus. You can view the photo HERE. If you prefer the current shot, no hard feelings. JoelWhy?( talk) 17:52, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
I have never been to this page before tonight but have been looking at dog breed pages before editing a different breeds page. in comparison to many of them I thought this page looked pretty good. I could not see the reason for the fanpov tag. I went all the way back to September 2012 and looked at every single edit made since then in order to get a good sense of the page history. I feel the original addition of the fanpov tag was done in good faith but as no true explanation was given I am guessing it was about the temperament section. That has been edited several times since. The very positive description of the AKC was put in quotes making it clear it was not a wikipedia authored bit, stuff was added about the CDC study with appropriate dates given to show the age of the study. To my eyes both sides are presented and the article is neutral. As such I am going to suggest removal of the fanpov tag unless someone objects and posts up their reasons. If the consensus is to keep the tag then I suggest updating the date on it. Jemmaca ( talk) 09:23, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Please unblock — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:43:1:9A18:D106:C56F:E82F:DF23 ( talk) 17:45, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
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They are large dogs. John Kwiecinski ( talk) 17:59, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
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