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This is from personal memory, my own collections, plus some online verification of details - content is original and reliable. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Ian T (
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Please see
WP:V for Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines. Personal accounts are not considered
reliable sources of information, and any other sources you've used need to be properly
cited. Thanks --
AbsolutDan(talk) 01:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Hi Dan - I'm not sure what's required. I could start finding citations in newspaper articles, local books, etc. but these are often more unreliable than what I've written. I own the CDs, the Goanna material is already recorded in Wikipedia and my other summarisation attempts to record Rose's considerable importance to Australian music. Unfortunately, I can't find an up-to-date website anymore. Regards, Ian T. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Ian T (
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I understand that print media may not always be quite as reliable as we'd like, but every Wikipedia article does need proper sources in order to remain. Per the
WP:V policy:
| The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that any reader must be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a
reliable source, because Wikipedia does not publish original thought or
original research.
If you do have some of those sources you mentioned please do add them - they would be a great start, at least. If not, no worries, the tag can just remain on the article for someone else to find and perhaps work on.
I can also see the the
Goanna (band) article only uses the band's/band member's own websites as sources. That article needs other sources to prove that it meets
WP:MUSIC criteria for inclusion. --
AbsolutDan(talk) 02:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Thanks, Dan - interesting stuff and very relevant to a lot of other entries I've seen (some with really dodgy and questionable info). I guess I'm more concerned about Copyright infringement than verifiability, though I understand the policy. One of the problems is that a lot of really specialist information (particularly in Australia) hasn't seen print (I do write for print locally as well, but nothing relevant to this specific case). Ian T. —The preceding
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Ian T (
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contribs) 03:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
I understand where you're coming from. There's a great deal of information that necessarily has to be excluded here in order to comply with
WP:V. Yes, there are many other articles that are lacking sources. I tag them as I find them myself. Feel free to do so as well yourself; the template is {{unreferenced}}. Cheers --
AbsolutDan(talk) 04:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)reply
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or
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Australia and
Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the
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This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women in Music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of
Women in music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join
the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Women in MusicWikipedia:WikiProject Women in MusicTemplate:WikiProject Women in MusicWomen in music articles
This is from personal memory, my own collections, plus some online verification of details - content is original and reliable. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Ian T (
talk •
contribs) 01:15, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Please see
WP:V for Wikipedia's verifiability guidelines. Personal accounts are not considered
reliable sources of information, and any other sources you've used need to be properly
cited. Thanks --
AbsolutDan(talk) 01:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Hi Dan - I'm not sure what's required. I could start finding citations in newspaper articles, local books, etc. but these are often more unreliable than what I've written. I own the CDs, the Goanna material is already recorded in Wikipedia and my other summarisation attempts to record Rose's considerable importance to Australian music. Unfortunately, I can't find an up-to-date website anymore. Regards, Ian T. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Ian T (
talk •
contribs) 01:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
I understand that print media may not always be quite as reliable as we'd like, but every Wikipedia article does need proper sources in order to remain. Per the
WP:V policy:
| The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. "Verifiable" in this context means that any reader must be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a
reliable source, because Wikipedia does not publish original thought or
original research.
If you do have some of those sources you mentioned please do add them - they would be a great start, at least. If not, no worries, the tag can just remain on the article for someone else to find and perhaps work on.
I can also see the the
Goanna (band) article only uses the band's/band member's own websites as sources. That article needs other sources to prove that it meets
WP:MUSIC criteria for inclusion. --
AbsolutDan(talk) 02:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)reply
Thanks, Dan - interesting stuff and very relevant to a lot of other entries I've seen (some with really dodgy and questionable info). I guess I'm more concerned about Copyright infringement than verifiability, though I understand the policy. One of the problems is that a lot of really specialist information (particularly in Australia) hasn't seen print (I do write for print locally as well, but nothing relevant to this specific case). Ian T. —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
Ian T (
talk •
contribs) 03:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
I understand where you're coming from. There's a great deal of information that necessarily has to be excluded here in order to comply with
WP:V. Yes, there are many other articles that are lacking sources. I tag them as I find them myself. Feel free to do so as well yourself; the template is {{unreferenced}}. Cheers --
AbsolutDan(talk) 04:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)reply